Afternoon all.  Quick question - we recently filed a lien foreclosure case in Indian River and the clerk responded that we needed to pay the much higher mortgage foreclosure filing fee (based on the lien amount).  Can anyone point me to the rule or statute that distinguishes mortgage versus lien foreclosure filing fees?  Thanks in advance.

Regards,

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          Section 28.2412.a involves the fees for civil actions in circuit court relating to real property OR mortgage foreclosures.  From a review of the Indian River Civil Division fees, it appears the clerk includes a claim of lien as a "real property" foreclosure.  Hope this is of some assistance.

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Afternoon all.  Quick question - we recently filed a lien foreclosure case in Indian River and the clerk responded that we needed to pay the much higher mortgage foreclosure filing fee (based on the lien amount).  Can anyone point me to the rule or statute that distinguishes mortgage versus lien foreclosure filing fees?  Thanks in advance.

Regards,

Alex Barthet
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I have always “finessed” this issue by checking the box for contract dispute
when filing the action instead of foreclosure, but occasionally a clerk will
catch the foreclosure claim and demand the increased filing fee.

Charles B. Hernicz, Esq.

Board Certified in Construction Law by The Florida Bar

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          Section 28.2412.a involves the fees for civil actions in

circuit court relating to real property OR mortgage foreclosures.  From a
review of the Indian River Civil Division fees, it appears the clerk
includes a claim of lien as a “real property” foreclosure.  Hope this is of
some assistance.

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Afternoon all.  Quick question – we recently filed a lien foreclosure case
in Indian River and the clerk responded that we needed to pay the much
higher mortgage foreclosure filing fee (based on the lien amount).  Can
anyone point me to the rule or statute that distinguishes mortgage versus
lien foreclosure filing fees?  Thanks in advance.

Regards,

Alex Barthet

Board Certified in Construction Law

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The construction lien laws are specifically designed to encourage the access to courts, including allowing the recovery of attorney’s fees. I would suggest that you alert any court trying to apply an inflated fee that arose under the mortgage foreclosure crisis that this is not intended to be wrapped up in a technicality into that realm. Inflated filing fees chill access.

Elizabeth

On Nov 16, 2022, at 3:46 PM, RPPTL CLC-Discussion clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org wrote:


I have always “finessed” this issue by checking the box for contract dispute when filing the action instead of foreclosure, but occasionally a clerk will catch the foreclosure claim and demand the increased filing fee.

Charles B. Hernicz, Esq.
Board Certified in Construction Law by The Florida Bar
Hernicz Legal Services, P.L.
96072 Breezeway Court
Yulee, FL  32097
Telephone: (561) 753-7511
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          Section 28.2412.a involves the fees for civil actions in circuit court relating to real property OR mortgage foreclosures.  From a review of the Indian River Civil Division fees, it appears the clerk includes a claim of lien as a “real property” foreclosure.  Hope this is of some assistance.

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Afternoon all.  Quick question – we recently filed a lien foreclosure case in Indian River and the clerk responded that we needed to pay the much higher mortgage foreclosure filing fee (based on the lien amount).  Can anyone point me to the rule or statute that distinguishes mortgage versus lien foreclosure filing fees?  Thanks in advance.

Regards,

Alex Barthet
Board Certified in Construction Law
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