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[RPPTL LandTen] 2 Questions

DS
Daniel S. Carusi
Tue, May 20, 2014 3:52 PM

Scenario 1: Client buys REO property from lender. Previous owner (defendant
in foreclosure) remains on property. Court retains jurisdiction to issue a
WOP.

QUESTION: Do you believe the retention of jurisdiction to issue a WOP would
apply to the purchaser from the bank?

Scenario 2: Client buys REO property from lender. Property has occupants
whose name/status are unknown.

QUESTION:  In an action for possession (probably detainer), name defendants
as "Unknown Occupants"?  Any other suggestions?

DO NOT SEND NOTICES, MOTIONS OR PLEADINGS TO THE SENDER'S E-MAIL ADDRESS.
DOING SO DOES NOT CONSTITUTE LEGAL NOTICE AS REQUIRED BY THE RULES OF COURT.
ALL SUCH NOTICES, PLEADINGS OR MOTIONS MUST BE SENT TO SERVICE
mailto:PLEADINGS@VOVALAW.COM PLEADINGS@CARUSILAW.COM.

Daniel S. Carusi, Esq.

Daniel S. Carusi. P.A.

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Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33301

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Scenario 1: Client buys REO property from lender. Previous owner (defendant in foreclosure) remains on property. Court retains jurisdiction to issue a WOP. QUESTION: Do you believe the retention of jurisdiction to issue a WOP would apply to the purchaser from the bank? Scenario 2: Client buys REO property from lender. Property has occupants whose name/status are unknown. QUESTION: In an action for possession (probably detainer), name defendants as "Unknown Occupants"? Any other suggestions? DO NOT SEND NOTICES, MOTIONS OR PLEADINGS TO THE SENDER'S E-MAIL ADDRESS. DOING SO DOES NOT CONSTITUTE LEGAL NOTICE AS REQUIRED BY THE RULES OF COURT. ALL SUCH NOTICES, PLEADINGS OR MOTIONS MUST BE SENT TO SERVICE <mailto:PLEADINGS@VOVALAW.COM> PLEADINGS@CARUSILAW.COM. Daniel S. Carusi, Esq. Daniel S. Carusi. P.A. 517 SW 1 Avenue Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33301 954.527.0101 954.524.4169 F This message and the documents attached to it, if any, are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please delete all electronic copies of this message and its attachments, if any, destroy any hard copies you may have created and notify me immediately. ------------------------------------------------------- Tax Advice Disclosure: To ensure compliance with requirements imposed by the IRS under Circular 230, we inform you that any U.S. federal tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments), unless otherwise specifically stated, was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (1) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (2) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any matters addressed herein. The information contained in this transmission may contain privileged and confidential information. It is intended only for the use of the person(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or duplication of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. To reply to our email administrator directly, please send an email to clindo@bellsouth.net.
EJ
Eric Jacobs
Tue, May 20, 2014 3:54 PM

By entering into a residential lease for more than one year, does a landlord lose the right to evict?  It would seem based on the definitions in the statute that if the lease is for more than one year, the landlord would have to foreclose/eject.

Secondarily, to avoid the above, does anyone see any potential problem with entering into a one year lease with an automatic renewal for an additional year unless both parties agree otherwise (rendering it effectively a two year lease without technically being one)?

Eric Jacobs
eric@beloffparker.commailto:eric@beloffparker.com
Partner
AV Rated
Board Certified - Real Estate

Beloff | Parker | Jacobs, PLC  and
Clear Title Group, LLC

Broward Office                                                                        Miami-Dade Office
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From: landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Daniel S. Carusi
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 11:52 AM
To: 'RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee'
Subject: [RPPTL LandTen] 2 Questions

Scenario 1: Client buys REO property from lender. Previous owner (defendant in foreclosure) remains on property. Court retains jurisdiction to issue a WOP.
QUESTION: Do you believe the retention of jurisdiction to issue a WOP would apply to the purchaser from the bank?

Scenario 2: Client buys REO property from lender. Property has occupants whose name/status are unknown.
QUESTION:  In an action for possession (probably detainer), name defendants as "Unknown Occupants"?  Any other suggestions?

DO NOT SEND NOTICES, MOTIONS OR PLEADINGS TO THE SENDER'S E-MAIL ADDRESS.  DOING SO DOES NOT CONSTITUTE LEGAL NOTICE AS REQUIRED BY THE RULES OF COURT.  ALL SUCH NOTICES, PLEADINGS OR MOTIONS MUST BE SENT TO SERVICEPLEADINGS@CARUSILAW.COMmailto:PLEADINGS@VOVALAW.COM.

Daniel S. Carusi, Esq.
Daniel S. Carusi. P.A.
517 SW 1 Avenue
Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33301
954.527.0101
954.524.4169 F

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By entering into a residential lease for more than one year, does a landlord lose the right to evict? It would seem based on the definitions in the statute that if the lease is for more than one year, the landlord would have to foreclose/eject. Secondarily, to avoid the above, does anyone see any potential problem with entering into a one year lease with an automatic renewal for an additional year unless both parties agree otherwise (rendering it effectively a two year lease without technically being one)? Eric Jacobs eric@beloffparker.com<mailto:eric@beloffparker.com> Partner AV Rated Board Certified - Real Estate Beloff | Parker | Jacobs, PLC and Clear Title Group, LLC Broward Office Miami-Dade Office 2001 Hollywood Boulevard, Suite 302 1691Michigan Avenue, Suite 320 Hollywood, Florida 33020 Miami Beach, Florida 33139 (954) 929-0679 Telephone (305)673-1101 Telephone (888) 632-4944 Facsimile (305)673-5505 Facsimile Confidentiality and Relationship Disclosure. If you are reading this, congratulations, you are probably the first. For years law firms have included lengthy disclosures at the bottom of their emails which in our view are of, at best, marginal legal value. We have decided not to do that. Instead, we will ask that if you got this email and shouldn't have, let us know and please don't read it (though if you've read this, chances are that ship has sailed). Also, just because we exchange emails doesn't make us your lawyer(s). If you would like to create an attorney/client relationship, we're glad to hear it and would be happy to provide you with an engagement letter. As soon as you have received written confirmation from us, you can consider our relationship formed. From: landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Daniel S. Carusi Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 11:52 AM To: 'RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee' Subject: [RPPTL LandTen] 2 Questions Scenario 1: Client buys REO property from lender. Previous owner (defendant in foreclosure) remains on property. Court retains jurisdiction to issue a WOP. QUESTION: Do you believe the retention of jurisdiction to issue a WOP would apply to the purchaser from the bank? Scenario 2: Client buys REO property from lender. Property has occupants whose name/status are unknown. QUESTION: In an action for possession (probably detainer), name defendants as "Unknown Occupants"? Any other suggestions? DO NOT SEND NOTICES, MOTIONS OR PLEADINGS TO THE SENDER'S E-MAIL ADDRESS. DOING SO DOES NOT CONSTITUTE LEGAL NOTICE AS REQUIRED BY THE RULES OF COURT. ALL SUCH NOTICES, PLEADINGS OR MOTIONS MUST BE SENT TO SERVICEPLEADINGS@CARUSILAW.COM<mailto:PLEADINGS@VOVALAW.COM>. Daniel S. Carusi, Esq. Daniel S. Carusi. P.A. 517 SW 1 Avenue Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33301 954.527.0101 954.524.4169 F This message and the documents attached to it, if any, are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please delete all electronic copies of this message and its attachments, if any, destroy any hard copies you may have created and notify me immediately. ------------------------------------------------------- Tax Advice Disclosure: To ensure compliance with requirements imposed by the IRS under Circular 230, we inform you that any U.S. federal tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments), unless otherwise specifically stated, was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (1) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (2) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any matters addressed herein. The information contained in this transmission may contain privileged and confidential information. It is intended only for the use of the person(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or duplication of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. To reply to our email administrator directly, please send an email to clindo@bellsouth.net<mailto:clindo@bellsouth.net>.
MF
Manuel Farach
Tue, May 20, 2014 4:07 PM
  1.   No, just has to comply with the general Statute of Frauds but still maintain right to evict
    
  2.   Automatic renewals are problematic for courts, but it can be done if your client really wants to
    

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West Palm Beach, Florida 33401
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From: landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Eric Jacobs
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 11:55 AM
To: 'RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee'
Subject: Re: [RPPTL LandTen] 2 Questions

By entering into a residential lease for more than one year, does a landlord lose the right to evict?  It would seem based on the definitions in the statute that if the lease is for more than one year, the landlord would have to foreclose/eject.

Secondarily, to avoid the above, does anyone see any potential problem with entering into a one year lease with an automatic renewal for an additional year unless both parties agree otherwise (rendering it effectively a two year lease without technically being one)?

Eric Jacobs
eric@beloffparker.commailto:eric@beloffparker.com
Partner
AV Rated
Board Certified – Real Estate

Beloff | Parker | Jacobs, PLC  and
Clear Title Group, LLC

Broward Office                                                                        Miami-Dade Office
2001 Hollywood Boulevard, Suite 302                            1691Michigan Avenue, Suite 320
Hollywood, Florida 33020                                                    Miami Beach, Florida 33139
(954) 929-0679 Telephone                                                  (305)673-1101 Telephone
(888) 632-4944 Facsimile                                                      (305)673-5505 Facsimile

Confidentiality and Relationship Disclosure. If you are reading this, congratulations, you are probably the first.  For years law firms have included lengthy disclosures at the bottom of their emails which in our view are of, at best, marginal legal value.  We have decided not to do that.  Instead, we will ask that if you got this email and shouldn't have, let us know and please don't read it (though if you've read this, chances are that ship has sailed).  Also, just because we exchange emails doesn't make us your lawyer(s).  If you would like to create an attorney/client relationship, we're glad to hear it and would be happy to provide you with an engagement letter.  As soon as you have received written confirmation from us, you can consider our relationship formed.

From: landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.orgmailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Daniel S. Carusi
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 11:52 AM
To: 'RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee'
Subject: [RPPTL LandTen] 2 Questions

Scenario 1: Client buys REO property from lender. Previous owner (defendant in foreclosure) remains on property. Court retains jurisdiction to issue a WOP.
QUESTION: Do you believe the retention of jurisdiction to issue a WOP would apply to the purchaser from the bank?

Scenario 2: Client buys REO property from lender. Property has occupants whose name/status are unknown.
QUESTION:  In an action for possession (probably detainer), name defendants as “Unknown Occupants”?  Any other suggestions?

DO NOT SEND NOTICES, MOTIONS OR PLEADINGS TO THE SENDER’S E-MAIL ADDRESS.  DOING SO DOES NOT CONSTITUTE LEGAL NOTICE AS REQUIRED BY THE RULES OF COURT.  ALL SUCH NOTICES, PLEADINGS OR MOTIONS MUST BE SENT TO SERVICEPLEADINGS@CARUSILAW.COMmailto:PLEADINGS@VOVALAW.COM.

Daniel S. Carusi, Esq.
Daniel S. Carusi. P.A.
517 SW 1 Avenue
Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33301
954.527.0101
954.524.4169 F

This message and the documents attached to it, if any, are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please delete all electronic copies of this message and its attachments, if any, destroy any hard copies you may have created and notify me immediately.

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1. No, just has to comply with the general Statute of Frauds but still maintain right to evict 2. Automatic renewals are problematic for courts, but it can be done if your client really wants to ________________________________ [http://www.richmangreer.com/images/logo.gif] Manuel Farach / Of Counsel - Board Certified in Real Estate Law and Business Litigation by The Florida Bar Richman Greer P.A. One Clearlake Centre Suite 1504 250 Australian Avenue South West Palm Beach, Florida 33401 Office: 561.803.3500 Fax: 561.820.1608 Direct: 561.803.3501 Email: MFarach@richmangreer.com www.RichmanGreer.com<http://www.RichmanGreer.com> [http://www.richmangreer.com/emailsig/meritas.gif] U.S. Treasury Regulation Circular 230 requires us to advise you that written communications issued by us are not intended to be and cannot be relied upon to avoid penalties that may be imposed by the Internal Revenue Service. Incoming emails are filtered which may delay receipt. This email is personal to the named recipient(s) and may be privileged and confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you received this in error. If so, any review, dissemination, or copying of this email is prohibited. Please immediately notify us by email and delete the original message.. ________________________________ From: landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Eric Jacobs Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 11:55 AM To: 'RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee' Subject: Re: [RPPTL LandTen] 2 Questions By entering into a residential lease for more than one year, does a landlord lose the right to evict? It would seem based on the definitions in the statute that if the lease is for more than one year, the landlord would have to foreclose/eject. Secondarily, to avoid the above, does anyone see any potential problem with entering into a one year lease with an automatic renewal for an additional year unless both parties agree otherwise (rendering it effectively a two year lease without technically being one)? Eric Jacobs eric@beloffparker.com<mailto:eric@beloffparker.com> Partner AV Rated Board Certified – Real Estate Beloff | Parker | Jacobs, PLC and Clear Title Group, LLC Broward Office Miami-Dade Office 2001 Hollywood Boulevard, Suite 302 1691Michigan Avenue, Suite 320 Hollywood, Florida 33020 Miami Beach, Florida 33139 (954) 929-0679 Telephone (305)673-1101 Telephone (888) 632-4944 Facsimile (305)673-5505 Facsimile Confidentiality and Relationship Disclosure. If you are reading this, congratulations, you are probably the first. For years law firms have included lengthy disclosures at the bottom of their emails which in our view are of, at best, marginal legal value. We have decided not to do that. Instead, we will ask that if you got this email and shouldn't have, let us know and please don't read it (though if you've read this, chances are that ship has sailed). Also, just because we exchange emails doesn't make us your lawyer(s). If you would like to create an attorney/client relationship, we're glad to hear it and would be happy to provide you with an engagement letter. As soon as you have received written confirmation from us, you can consider our relationship formed. From: landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org<mailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org> [mailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Daniel S. Carusi Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 11:52 AM To: 'RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee' Subject: [RPPTL LandTen] 2 Questions Scenario 1: Client buys REO property from lender. Previous owner (defendant in foreclosure) remains on property. Court retains jurisdiction to issue a WOP. QUESTION: Do you believe the retention of jurisdiction to issue a WOP would apply to the purchaser from the bank? Scenario 2: Client buys REO property from lender. Property has occupants whose name/status are unknown. QUESTION: In an action for possession (probably detainer), name defendants as “Unknown Occupants”? Any other suggestions? DO NOT SEND NOTICES, MOTIONS OR PLEADINGS TO THE SENDER’S E-MAIL ADDRESS. DOING SO DOES NOT CONSTITUTE LEGAL NOTICE AS REQUIRED BY THE RULES OF COURT. ALL SUCH NOTICES, PLEADINGS OR MOTIONS MUST BE SENT TO SERVICEPLEADINGS@CARUSILAW.COM<mailto:PLEADINGS@VOVALAW.COM>. Daniel S. Carusi, Esq. Daniel S. Carusi. P.A. 517 SW 1 Avenue Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33301 954.527.0101 954.524.4169 F This message and the documents attached to it, if any, are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please delete all electronic copies of this message and its attachments, if any, destroy any hard copies you may have created and notify me immediately. ------------------------------------------------------- Tax Advice Disclosure: To ensure compliance with requirements imposed by the IRS under Circular 230, we inform you that any U.S. federal tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments), unless otherwise specifically stated, was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (1) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (2) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any matters addressed herein. The information contained in this transmission may contain privileged and confidential information. It is intended only for the use of the person(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or duplication of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. To reply to our email administrator directly, please send an email to clindo@bellsouth.net<mailto:clindo@bellsouth.net>.
MF
Manuel Farach
Tue, May 20, 2014 4:14 PM
  1.   No, unless your client also bought the judgment (through assignment, etc.)
    
  2.   That is a good way to do it
    

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Manuel Farach / Of Counsel - Board Certified in Real Estate Law and Business Litigation by The Florida Bar

Richman Greer P.A.
One Clearlake Centre
Suite 1504
250 Australian Avenue South
West Palm Beach, Florida 33401
Office: 561.803.3500
Fax: 561.820.1608
Direct: 561.803.3501
Email: MFarach@richmangreer.com
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From: landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Daniel S. Carusi
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 11:52 AM
To: 'RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee'
Subject: [RPPTL LandTen] 2 Questions

Scenario 1: Client buys REO property from lender. Previous owner (defendant in foreclosure) remains on property. Court retains jurisdiction to issue a WOP.
QUESTION: Do you believe the retention of jurisdiction to issue a WOP would apply to the purchaser from the bank?

Scenario 2: Client buys REO property from lender. Property has occupants whose name/status are unknown.
QUESTION:  In an action for possession (probably detainer), name defendants as “Unknown Occupants”?  Any other suggestions?

DO NOT SEND NOTICES, MOTIONS OR PLEADINGS TO THE SENDER’S E-MAIL ADDRESS.  DOING SO DOES NOT CONSTITUTE LEGAL NOTICE AS REQUIRED BY THE RULES OF COURT.  ALL SUCH NOTICES, PLEADINGS OR MOTIONS MUST BE SENT TO SERVICEPLEADINGS@CARUSILAW.COMmailto:PLEADINGS@VOVALAW.COM.

Daniel S. Carusi, Esq.
Daniel S. Carusi. P.A.
517 SW 1 Avenue
Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33301
954.527.0101
954.524.4169 F

This message and the documents attached to it, if any, are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please delete all electronic copies of this message and its attachments, if any, destroy any hard copies you may have created and notify me immediately.

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1. No, unless your client also bought the judgment (through assignment, etc.) 2. That is a good way to do it ________________________________ [http://www.richmangreer.com/images/logo.gif] Manuel Farach / Of Counsel - Board Certified in Real Estate Law and Business Litigation by The Florida Bar Richman Greer P.A. One Clearlake Centre Suite 1504 250 Australian Avenue South West Palm Beach, Florida 33401 Office: 561.803.3500 Fax: 561.820.1608 Direct: 561.803.3501 Email: MFarach@richmangreer.com www.RichmanGreer.com<http://www.RichmanGreer.com> [http://www.richmangreer.com/emailsig/meritas.gif] U.S. Treasury Regulation Circular 230 requires us to advise you that written communications issued by us are not intended to be and cannot be relied upon to avoid penalties that may be imposed by the Internal Revenue Service. Incoming emails are filtered which may delay receipt. This email is personal to the named recipient(s) and may be privileged and confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you received this in error. If so, any review, dissemination, or copying of this email is prohibited. Please immediately notify us by email and delete the original message.. ________________________________ From: landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Daniel S. Carusi Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 11:52 AM To: 'RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee' Subject: [RPPTL LandTen] 2 Questions Scenario 1: Client buys REO property from lender. Previous owner (defendant in foreclosure) remains on property. Court retains jurisdiction to issue a WOP. QUESTION: Do you believe the retention of jurisdiction to issue a WOP would apply to the purchaser from the bank? Scenario 2: Client buys REO property from lender. Property has occupants whose name/status are unknown. QUESTION: In an action for possession (probably detainer), name defendants as “Unknown Occupants”? Any other suggestions? DO NOT SEND NOTICES, MOTIONS OR PLEADINGS TO THE SENDER’S E-MAIL ADDRESS. DOING SO DOES NOT CONSTITUTE LEGAL NOTICE AS REQUIRED BY THE RULES OF COURT. ALL SUCH NOTICES, PLEADINGS OR MOTIONS MUST BE SENT TO SERVICEPLEADINGS@CARUSILAW.COM<mailto:PLEADINGS@VOVALAW.COM>. Daniel S. Carusi, Esq. Daniel S. Carusi. P.A. 517 SW 1 Avenue Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33301 954.527.0101 954.524.4169 F This message and the documents attached to it, if any, are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please delete all electronic copies of this message and its attachments, if any, destroy any hard copies you may have created and notify me immediately. ------------------------------------------------------- Tax Advice Disclosure: To ensure compliance with requirements imposed by the IRS under Circular 230, we inform you that any U.S. federal tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments), unless otherwise specifically stated, was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (1) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (2) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any matters addressed herein. The information contained in this transmission may contain privileged and confidential information. It is intended only for the use of the person(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or duplication of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. To reply to our email administrator directly, please send an email to clindo@bellsouth.net<mailto:clindo@bellsouth.net>.
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Sebastian Jaramillo
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  1. No unless bought at auction.

  2. I usually go with John Doe/Jane Doe, then amend after they file an
    answer, if any.

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On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 12:14 PM, Manuel Farach MFarach@richmangreer.comwrote:

  1.   No, unless your client also bought the judgment (through
    

assignment, etc.)

  1.   That is a good way to do it
    

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Subject: [RPPTL LandTen] 2 Questions

Scenario 1: Client buys REO property from lender. Previous owner
(defendant in foreclosure) remains on property. Court retains jurisdiction
to issue a WOP.

QUESTION: Do you believe the retention of jurisdiction to issue a WOP
would apply to the purchaser from the bank?

Scenario 2: Client buys REO property from lender. Property has occupants
whose name/status are unknown.

QUESTION:  In an action for possession (probably detainer), name
defendants as “Unknown Occupants”?  Any other suggestions?

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1. No unless bought at auction. 2. I usually go with John Doe/Jane Doe, then amend after they file an answer, if any. *Sebastian Jaramillo, Esq.* 66 W. Flagler St Suite 500 Miami, FL 33130 Tel: (305) 373-2800 Fax: (305) 373-0505 www.lawjb.com This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. IMPORTANT TAX NOTICE: This communication is not written to be used, and cannot be used, by a taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be asserted against the taxpayer under the Internal Revenue Code of 1986, as amended. On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 12:14 PM, Manuel Farach <MFarach@richmangreer.com>wrote: > 1. No, unless your client also bought the judgment (through > assignment, etc.) > > 2. That is a good way to do it > > > > ------------------------------ > > Manuel Farach / Of Counsel - Board Certified in Real Estate Law and > Business Litigation by The Florida Bar > > Richman Greer P.A. > One Clearlake Centre > Suite 1504 > 250 Australian Avenue South > West Palm Beach, Florida 33401 > Office: 561.803.3500 > Fax: 561.820.1608 > Direct: 561.803.3501 > Email: MFarach@richmangreer.com > www.RichmanGreer.com > > U.S. Treasury Regulation Circular 230 requires us to advise you that > written communications issued by us are not intended to be and cannot be > relied upon to avoid penalties that may be imposed by the Internal Revenue > Service. > > Incoming emails are filtered which may delay receipt. This email is > personal to the named recipient(s) and may be privileged and confidential. > If you are not the intended recipient, you received this in error. If so, > any review, dissemination, or copying of this email is prohibited. 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Eric Jacobs
Tue, May 20, 2014 4:51 PM

Manny with regard to 1 below.  §83.43(7) defines a Rental Agreement as any written agreement…for a duration of less than 1 year. §83.56 pertains to Rental Agreements.

I don’t see how the chapter applies to a rental agreement for more than one year.

What am I missing?

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Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 12:08 PM
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Subject: Re: [RPPTL LandTen] 2 Questions

  1.   No, just has to comply with the general Statute of Frauds but still maintain right to evict
    
  2.   Automatic renewals are problematic for courts, but it can be done if your client really wants to
    

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Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 11:55 AM
To: 'RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee'
Subject: Re: [RPPTL LandTen] 2 Questions

By entering into a residential lease for more than one year, does a landlord lose the right to evict?  It would seem based on the definitions in the statute that if the lease is for more than one year, the landlord would have to foreclose/eject.

Secondarily, to avoid the above, does anyone see any potential problem with entering into a one year lease with an automatic renewal for an additional year unless both parties agree otherwise (rendering it effectively a two year lease without technically being one)?

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From: landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.orgmailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Daniel S. Carusi
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 11:52 AM
To: 'RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee'
Subject: [RPPTL LandTen] 2 Questions

Scenario 1: Client buys REO property from lender. Previous owner (defendant in foreclosure) remains on property. Court retains jurisdiction to issue a WOP.
QUESTION: Do you believe the retention of jurisdiction to issue a WOP would apply to the purchaser from the bank?

Scenario 2: Client buys REO property from lender. Property has occupants whose name/status are unknown.
QUESTION:  In an action for possession (probably detainer), name defendants as “Unknown Occupants”?  Any other suggestions?

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Manny with regard to 1 below. §83.43(7) defines a Rental Agreement as any written agreement…for a duration of less than 1 year. §83.56 pertains to Rental Agreements. I don’t see how the chapter applies to a rental agreement for more than one year. What am I missing? Eric Jacobs eric@beloffparker.com<mailto:eric@beloffparker.com> Partner AV Rated Board Certified – Real Estate Beloff | Parker | Jacobs, PLC and Clear Title Group, LLC Broward Office Miami-Dade Office 2001 Hollywood Boulevard, Suite 302 1691Michigan Avenue, Suite 320 Hollywood, Florida 33020 Miami Beach, Florida 33139 (954) 929-0679 Telephone (305)673-1101 Telephone (888) 632-4944 Facsimile (305)673-5505 Facsimile Confidentiality and Relationship Disclosure. If you are reading this, congratulations, you are probably the first. For years law firms have included lengthy disclosures at the bottom of their emails which in our view are of, at best, marginal legal value. We have decided not to do that. Instead, we will ask that if you got this email and shouldn't have, let us know and please don't read it (though if you've read this, chances are that ship has sailed). Also, just because we exchange emails doesn't make us your lawyer(s). If you would like to create an attorney/client relationship, we're glad to hear it and would be happy to provide you with an engagement letter. As soon as you have received written confirmation from us, you can consider our relationship formed. From: landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Manuel Farach Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 12:08 PM To: RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee Subject: Re: [RPPTL LandTen] 2 Questions 1. No, just has to comply with the general Statute of Frauds but still maintain right to evict 2. Automatic renewals are problematic for courts, but it can be done if your client really wants to ________________________________ [Image removed by sender.] Manuel Farach / Of Counsel - Board Certified in Real Estate Law and Business Litigation by The Florida Bar Richman Greer P.A. One Clearlake Centre Suite 1504 250 Australian Avenue South West Palm Beach, Florida 33401 Office: 561.803.3500 Fax: 561.820.1608 Direct: 561.803.3501 Email: MFarach@richmangreer.com www.RichmanGreer.com<http://www.RichmanGreer.com> [Image removed by sender.] U.S. Treasury Regulation Circular 230 requires us to advise you that written communications issued by us are not intended to be and cannot be relied upon to avoid penalties that may be imposed by the Internal Revenue Service. Incoming emails are filtered which may delay receipt. This email is personal to the named recipient(s) and may be privileged and confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you received this in error. 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Eric Jacobs eric@beloffparker.com<mailto:eric@beloffparker.com> Partner AV Rated Board Certified – Real Estate Beloff | Parker | Jacobs, PLC and Clear Title Group, LLC Broward Office Miami-Dade Office 2001 Hollywood Boulevard, Suite 302 1691Michigan Avenue, Suite 320 Hollywood, Florida 33020 Miami Beach, Florida 33139 (954) 929-0679 Telephone (305)673-1101 Telephone (888) 632-4944 Facsimile (305)673-5505 Facsimile Confidentiality and Relationship Disclosure. If you are reading this, congratulations, you are probably the first. For years law firms have included lengthy disclosures at the bottom of their emails which in our view are of, at best, marginal legal value. We have decided not to do that. Instead, we will ask that if you got this email and shouldn't have, let us know and please don't read it (though if you've read this, chances are that ship has sailed). Also, just because we exchange emails doesn't make us your lawyer(s). If you would like to create an attorney/client relationship, we're glad to hear it and would be happy to provide you with an engagement letter. As soon as you have received written confirmation from us, you can consider our relationship formed. From: landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org<mailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org> [mailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Daniel S. Carusi Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 11:52 AM To: 'RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee' Subject: [RPPTL LandTen] 2 Questions Scenario 1: Client buys REO property from lender. Previous owner (defendant in foreclosure) remains on property. Court retains jurisdiction to issue a WOP. QUESTION: Do you believe the retention of jurisdiction to issue a WOP would apply to the purchaser from the bank? Scenario 2: Client buys REO property from lender. Property has occupants whose name/status are unknown. QUESTION: In an action for possession (probably detainer), name defendants as “Unknown Occupants”? Any other suggestions? DO NOT SEND NOTICES, MOTIONS OR PLEADINGS TO THE SENDER’S E-MAIL ADDRESS. DOING SO DOES NOT CONSTITUTE LEGAL NOTICE AS REQUIRED BY THE RULES OF COURT. ALL SUCH NOTICES, PLEADINGS OR MOTIONS MUST BE SENT TO SERVICEPLEADINGS@CARUSILAW.COM<mailto:PLEADINGS@VOVALAW.COM>. Daniel S. Carusi, Esq. Daniel S. Carusi. P.A. 517 SW 1 Avenue Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33301 954.527.0101 954.524.4169 F This message and the documents attached to it, if any, are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. 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Manuel Farach
Tue, May 20, 2014 5:03 PM

Eric,
I don’t think you’re missing anything; I just think that Chapter 83’s requirements are imposed on those leases that meet its criteria (i.e., less than one year, etc.). I don’t think the fact that a lease is longer than one year means you can’t evict a tenant or that you have to foreclose the lease; I think it just means that lease is not subject to Chapter 83’s requirements (no deposit money requirements under section 83.49)


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Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 12:52 PM
To: 'RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee'
Subject: Re: [RPPTL LandTen] 2 Questions

Manny with regard to 1 below.  §83.43(7) defines a Rental Agreement as any written agreement…for a duration of less than 1 year. §83.56 pertains to Rental Agreements.

I don’t see how the chapter applies to a rental agreement for more than one year.

What am I missing?

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  1.   No, just has to comply with the general Statute of Frauds but still maintain right to evict
    
  2.   Automatic renewals are problematic for courts, but it can be done if your client really wants to
    

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By entering into a residential lease for more than one year, does a landlord lose the right to evict?  It would seem based on the definitions in the statute that if the lease is for more than one year, the landlord would have to foreclose/eject.

Secondarily, to avoid the above, does anyone see any potential problem with entering into a one year lease with an automatic renewal for an additional year unless both parties agree otherwise (rendering it effectively a two year lease without technically being one)?

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Scenario 1: Client buys REO property from lender. Previous owner (defendant in foreclosure) remains on property. Court retains jurisdiction to issue a WOP.
QUESTION: Do you believe the retention of jurisdiction to issue a WOP would apply to the purchaser from the bank?

Scenario 2: Client buys REO property from lender. Property has occupants whose name/status are unknown.
QUESTION:  In an action for possession (probably detainer), name defendants as “Unknown Occupants”?  Any other suggestions?

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Eric, I don’t think you’re missing anything; I just think that Chapter 83’s requirements are imposed on those leases that meet its criteria (i.e., less than one year, etc.). I don’t think the fact that a lease is longer than one year means you can’t evict a tenant or that you have to foreclose the lease; I think it just means that lease is not subject to Chapter 83’s requirements (no deposit money requirements under section 83.49) ________________________________ [http://www.richmangreer.com/images/logo.gif] Manuel Farach / Of Counsel - Board Certified in Real Estate Law and Business Litigation by The Florida Bar Richman Greer P.A. 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Eric Jacobs eric@beloffparker.com<mailto:eric@beloffparker.com> Partner AV Rated Board Certified – Real Estate Beloff | Parker | Jacobs, PLC and Clear Title Group, LLC Broward Office Miami-Dade Office 2001 Hollywood Boulevard, Suite 302 1691Michigan Avenue, Suite 320 Hollywood, Florida 33020 Miami Beach, Florida 33139 (954) 929-0679 Telephone (305)673-1101 Telephone (888) 632-4944 Facsimile (305)673-5505 Facsimile Confidentiality and Relationship Disclosure. If you are reading this, congratulations, you are probably the first. For years law firms have included lengthy disclosures at the bottom of their emails which in our view are of, at best, marginal legal value. We have decided not to do that. Instead, we will ask that if you got this email and shouldn't have, let us know and please don't read it (though if you've read this, chances are that ship has sailed). Also, just because we exchange emails doesn't make us your lawyer(s). 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Bob Wunker
Tue, May 20, 2014 5:08 PM

Re Scenario 1:  After lapse of 30 days of the foreclosure's termination, I
think the court would have lost jurisdiction and I don't think the client
could then move to intervene and have a WOP issued.  If within 30 days,
then I'd argue the client is surrogated to the lender's interests and
rights and could file a motion to intervene and obtain a WOP.
Re Scenario 2:  I would tend to think that the foreclosing plaintiff would
have obtained the names of the defendants by the return of process on them
or otherwise may have had a communication from them to enable you to
inquire and obtain their names.  If not, then my view is that you could
name them as Unknown Occupants, serve them, and then file a motion for
changing their names from Unknown Occupants to their actual names if the
service of process identifies them.  Some judges will allow just a Notice
of Name Change without needing a motion.

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On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Daniel S. Carusi dcarusi@bellsouth.netwrote:

Scenario 1: Client buys REO property from lender. Previous owner
(defendant in foreclosure) remains on property. Court retains jurisdiction
to issue a WOP.

QUESTION: Do you believe the retention of jurisdiction to issue a WOP
would apply to the purchaser from the bank?

Scenario 2: Client buys REO property from lender. Property has occupants
whose name/status are unknown.

QUESTION:  In an action for possession (probably detainer), name
defendants as “Unknown Occupants”?  Any other suggestions?

DO NOT SEND NOTICES, MOTIONS OR PLEADINGS TO THE SENDER’S E-MAIL
ADDRESS.  DOING SO DOES NOT CONSTITUTE LEGAL NOTICE AS REQUIRED BY THE
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SERVICEPLEADINGS@CARUSILAW.COM PLEADINGS@VOVALAW.COM.

Daniel S. Carusi, Esq.

Daniel S. Carusi. P.A.

517 SW 1 Avenue

Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33301

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Re Scenario 1: After lapse of 30 days of the foreclosure's termination, I think the court would have lost jurisdiction and I don't think the client could then move to intervene and have a WOP issued. If within 30 days, then I'd argue the client is surrogated to the lender's interests and rights and could file a motion to intervene and obtain a WOP. Re Scenario 2: I would tend to think that the foreclosing plaintiff would have obtained the names of the defendants by the return of process on them or otherwise may have had a communication from them to enable you to inquire and obtain their names. If not, then my view is that you could name them as Unknown Occupants, serve them, and then file a motion for changing their names from Unknown Occupants to their actual names if the service of process identifies them. Some judges will allow just a Notice of Name Change without needing a motion. Robert L. Wunker, Esq. rwunker@gmail.com On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Daniel S. Carusi <dcarusi@bellsouth.net>wrote: > Scenario 1: Client buys REO property from lender. Previous owner > (defendant in foreclosure) remains on property. Court retains jurisdiction > to issue a WOP. > > QUESTION: Do you believe the retention of jurisdiction to issue a WOP > would apply to the purchaser from the bank? > > > > Scenario 2: Client buys REO property from lender. Property has occupants > whose name/status are unknown. > > QUESTION: In an action for possession (probably detainer), name > defendants as “Unknown Occupants”? Any other suggestions? > > > > *DO NOT SEND NOTICES, MOTIONS OR PLEADINGS TO THE SENDER’S E-MAIL > ADDRESS. DOING SO DOES NOT CONSTITUTE LEGAL NOTICE AS REQUIRED BY THE > RULES OF COURT. ALL SUCH NOTICES, PLEADINGS OR MOTIONS MUST BE SENT TO > SERVICEPLEADINGS@CARUSILAW.COM <PLEADINGS@VOVALAW.COM>.* > > > > > > > > Daniel S. Carusi, Esq. > > Daniel S. Carusi. P.A. > > 517 SW 1 Avenue > > Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33301 > > 954.527.0101 > > 954.524.4169 F > > > > This message and the documents attached to it, if any, are intended only > for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED > and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not > the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of > this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this > communication in error, please delete all electronic copies of this message > and its attachments, if any, destroy any hard copies you may have created > and notify me immediately. > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > Tax Advice Disclosure: To ensure compliance with requirements imposed by > the IRS under Circular 230, we inform you that any U.S. federal tax advice > contained in this communication (including any attachments), unless > otherwise specifically stated, was not intended or written to be used, and > cannot be used, for the purpose of (1) avoiding penalties under the > Internal Revenue Code or (2) promoting, marketing or recommending to > another party any matters addressed herein. > > The information contained in this transmission may contain privileged and > confidential information. It is intended only for the use of the person(s) > named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified > that any review, dissemination, distribution or duplication of this > communication is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended > recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies > of the original message. To reply to our email administrator directly, > please send an email to *clindo@bellsouth.net <clindo@bellsouth.net>*. > > > > _______________________________________________ > landten mailing list > landten@lists.flabarrpptl.org > http://mailman.fsr.com/mailman/listinfo/landten >
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James Zink
Tue, May 20, 2014 5:29 PM

(7) “Rental agreement” means any written agreement, including amendments or addenda, or oral agreement for a duration of less than 1 year, providing for use and occupancy of premises.

I think you are reading the section wrong. You are taking it to mean, essentially, written or oral agreement for a duration of less than 1 year. I believe it is meant to read: a written agreement providing use and occupancy of premises OR oral agreement for a duration of less than 1 year providing for use and occupancy of premises. This would be in line with the statute of frauds issue raised by a previous emailer. Not surprisingly, it is written poorly and can be read both ways, but I think the application as I have seen it uses my interpretation.

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From: landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Eric Jacobs
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 12:52 PM
To: 'RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee'
Subject: Re: [RPPTL LandTen] 2 Questions

Manny with regard to 1 below.  §83.43(7) defines a Rental Agreement as any written agreement…for a duration of less than 1 year. §83.56 pertains to Rental Agreements.

I don’t see how the chapter applies to a rental agreement for more than one year.

What am I missing?

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From: landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.orgmailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Manuel Farach
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 12:08 PM
To: RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee
Subject: Re: [RPPTL LandTen] 2 Questions

  1.   No, just has to comply with the general Statute of Frauds but still maintain right to evict
    
  2.   Automatic renewals are problematic for courts, but it can be done if your client really wants to
    

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By entering into a residential lease for more than one year, does a landlord lose the right to evict?  It would seem based on the definitions in the statute that if the lease is for more than one year, the landlord would have to foreclose/eject.

Secondarily, to avoid the above, does anyone see any potential problem with entering into a one year lease with an automatic renewal for an additional year unless both parties agree otherwise (rendering it effectively a two year lease without technically being one)?

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From: landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.orgmailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Daniel S. Carusi
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Scenario 1: Client buys REO property from lender. Previous owner (defendant in foreclosure) remains on property. Court retains jurisdiction to issue a WOP.
QUESTION: Do you believe the retention of jurisdiction to issue a WOP would apply to the purchaser from the bank?

Scenario 2: Client buys REO property from lender. Property has occupants whose name/status are unknown.
QUESTION:  In an action for possession (probably detainer), name defendants as “Unknown Occupants”?  Any other suggestions?

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(7) “Rental agreement” means any written agreement, including amendments or addenda, or oral agreement for a duration of less than 1 year, providing for use and occupancy of premises. I think you are reading the section wrong. You are taking it to mean, essentially, written or oral agreement for a duration of less than 1 year. I believe it is meant to read: a written agreement providing use and occupancy of premises OR oral agreement for a duration of less than 1 year providing for use and occupancy of premises. This would be in line with the statute of frauds issue raised by a previous emailer. Not surprisingly, it is written poorly and can be read both ways, but I think the application as I have seen it uses my interpretation. James Zink, Esq. 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I concur with Mr. Zink.  There's no limit to how long a written lease term can be for it to still be governed by Ch. 83, but if it is an oral agreement, then it must be for less than 1 year or else it's invalid altogether under the Statute of Frauds.  The placement of the "or" in that section supports Mr. Zink's interpretation, in my opinion.

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On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 1:30 PM, James Zink james.zink@frls.org wrote:

(7) “Rental agreement” means any written agreement, including amendments or addenda, or oral agreement for a duration of less than 1 year, providing for use and occupancy of premises.
 
I think you are reading the section wrong. You are taking it to mean, essentially, written or oral agreement for a duration of less than 1 year. I believe it is meant to read: a written agreement providing use and occupancy of premises OR oral agreement for a duration of less than 1 year providing for use and occupancy of premises. This would be in line with the statute of frauds issue raised by a previous emailer. Not surprisingly, it is written poorly and can be read both ways, but I think the application as I have seen it uses my interpretation.
 
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Florida Rural Legal Services, Inc.
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West Palm Beach, FL 33405
Phone: (561) 820-8902 x. 6025
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From:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Eric Jacobs
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 12:52 PM
To: 'RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee'
Subject: Re: [RPPTL LandTen] 2 Questions
 
Manny with regard to 1 below.  §83.43(7) defines a Rental Agreement as any written agreement…for a duration of less than 1 year. §83.56 pertains to Rental Agreements. 
 
I don’t see how the chapter applies to a rental agreement for more than one year. 
 
What am I missing?
 
 
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eric@beloffparker.com
Partner
AV Rated
Board Certified – Real Estate
 
 
Beloff | Parker | Jacobs, PLC  and
Clear Title Group, LLC
 
 
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Hollywood, Florida 33020                                                     Miami Beach, Florida 33139
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From: landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Manuel Farach
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 12:08 PM
To: RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee
Subject: Re: [RPPTL LandTen] 2 Questions
 
1.       No, just has to comply with the general Statute of Frauds but still maintain right to evict
2.       Automatic renewals are problematic for courts, but it can be done if your client really wants to
 


Manuel Farach / Of Counsel - Board Certified in Real Estate Law and Business Litigation by The Florida Bar
Richman Greer P.A.
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Suite 1504
250 Australian Avenue South
West Palm Beach, Florida 33401
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From:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Eric Jacobs
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 11:55 AM
To: 'RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee'
Subject: Re: [RPPTL LandTen] 2 Questions
 
By entering into a residential lease for more than one year, does a landlord lose the right to evict?  It would seem based on the definitions in the statute that if the lease is for more than one year, the landlord would have to foreclose/eject.
 
Secondarily, to avoid the above, does anyone see any potential problem with entering into a one year lease with an automatic renewal for an additional year unless both parties agree otherwise (rendering it effectively a two year lease without technically being one)?
 
 
Eric Jacobs
eric@beloffparker.com
Partner
AV Rated
Board Certified – Real Estate
 
 
Beloff | Parker | Jacobs, PLC  and
Clear Title Group, LLC
 
 
Broward Office                                                                        Miami-Dade Office
2001 Hollywood Boulevard, Suite 302                            1691Michigan Avenue, Suite 320
Hollywood, Florida 33020                                                     Miami Beach, Florida 33139
(954) 929-0679 Telephone                                                   (305)673-1101 Telephone
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From: landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Daniel S. Carusi
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 11:52 AM
To: 'RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee'
Subject: [RPPTL LandTen] 2 Questions
 
Scenario 1: Client buys REO property from lender. Previous owner (defendant in foreclosure) remains on property. Court retains jurisdiction to issue a WOP.
QUESTION: Do you believe the retention of jurisdiction to issue a WOP would apply to the purchaser from the bank?
 
Scenario 2: Client buys REO property from lender. Property has occupants whose name/status are unknown.
QUESTION:  In an action for possession (probably detainer), name defendants as “Unknown Occupants”?  Any other suggestions?
 
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I concur with Mr. Zink.  There's no limit to how long a written lease term can be for it to still be governed by Ch. 83, but if it is an oral agreement, then it must be for less than 1 year or else it's invalid altogether under the Statute of Frauds.  The placement of the "or" in that section supports Mr. Zink's interpretation, in my opinion. Cary Law Offices of Cary P. Sabol P.O. Box 15981 | West Palm Beach | Florida | 33416  Phone: (561) 281-2744  ________________________________ IRS Circular 230 Notice: Pursuant to recently enacted U.S. Treasury Department Regulations, we are now required to advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice expressed above was neither written nor intended by the sender or this firm to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then the advice should be considered to have been written to support the promotion or marketing by a person other than the sender or this firm of that transaction or matter, and such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayer's particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor.   Confidentiality Notice: This electronic mail transmission is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential information belonging to the sender which is protected by the attorney-client privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail and delete the original message. Thank you for your cooperation. On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 1:30 PM, James Zink <james.zink@frls.org> wrote: (7) “Rental agreement” means any written agreement, including amendments or addenda, or oral agreement for a duration of less than 1 year, providing for use and occupancy of premises.   I think you are reading the section wrong. You are taking it to mean, essentially, written or oral agreement for a duration of less than 1 year. I believe it is meant to read: a written agreement providing use and occupancy of premises OR oral agreement for a duration of less than 1 year providing for use and occupancy of premises. This would be in line with the statute of frauds issue raised by a previous emailer. Not surprisingly, it is written poorly and can be read both ways, but I think the application as I have seen it uses my interpretation.   James Zink, Esq. 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Please immediately notify us by email and delete the original message.. ________________________________   From:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Eric Jacobs Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 11:55 AM To: 'RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee' Subject: Re: [RPPTL LandTen] 2 Questions   By entering into a residential lease for more than one year, does a landlord lose the right to evict?  It would seem based on the definitions in the statute that if the lease is for more than one year, the landlord would have to foreclose/eject.   Secondarily, to avoid the above, does anyone see any potential problem with entering into a one year lease with an automatic renewal for an additional year unless both parties agree otherwise (rendering it effectively a two year lease without technically being one)?     Eric Jacobs eric@beloffparker.com Partner AV Rated Board Certified – Real Estate     Beloff | Parker | Jacobs, PLC  and Clear Title Group, LLC     Broward Office                                                                        Miami-Dade Office 2001 Hollywood Boulevard, Suite 302                            1691Michigan Avenue, Suite 320 Hollywood, Florida 33020                                                     Miami Beach, Florida 33139 (954) 929-0679 Telephone                                                   (305)673-1101 Telephone (888) 632-4944 Facsimile                                                       (305)673-5505 Facsimile   Confidentiality and Relationship Disclosure.If you are reading this, congratulations, you are probably the first.  For years law firms have included lengthy disclosures at the bottom of their emails which in our view are of, at best, marginal legal value.  We have decided not to do that.  Instead, we will ask that if you got this email and shouldn't have, let us know and please don't read it (though if you've read this, chances are that ship has sailed).  Also, just because we exchange emails doesn't make us your lawyer(s).  If you would like to create an attorney/client relationship, we're glad to hear it and would be happy to provide you with an engagement letter.  As soon as you have received written confirmation from us, you can consider our relationship formed.   From: landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Daniel S. 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