EXCEPT that many local jurisdictions require a local license for such work.
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From: Weintraub, Lee [mailto:lweintraub@bplegal.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 8:26 AM
To: Sean A. Mickley; Fred Dudley
Cc: Gibbons, Michael; clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org
Subject: RE: [CLC-Discussion] Lien Right?:
correct
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From: Sean A. Mickley [mailto:smickley@gouldcooksey.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 8:20 AM
To: Fred Dudley
Cc: Weintraub, Lee; Gibbons, Michael; clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org
Subject: Re: [CLC-Discussion] Lien Right?:
A person or entity does not need to be licensed to perform tile work, painting, or carpet installation, correct? Those scopes of work are certainly improvements but do not require licensure. It is my understanding based on my reading of the statute that a person or entity performing such work may lean the property is not paid regardless of licensure.
Sean A. Mickley, Esq.
Gould Cooksey Fennell, P.A.
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Vero Beach, FL 32963
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On Jan 8, 2015, at 7:58 AM, "Fred Dudley" dudley@mylicenselaw.com wrote:
Agreed; that was amended several years ago to accommodate the paving contractors. However, without either a state or local license to make improvements (or the exemption I pointed out), the work would constitute ULA, which is also a crime.
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Subject: RE: [CLC-Discussion] Lien Right?:
713.02, which deprives unlicensed contractors of liens, references 489.128, which only requires a license "required by this part." "This part" only requires state licenses. I don't think a local license requirement is relevant to the analysis of whether one can lien.
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Fred Dudley
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 7:52 AM
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Subject: Re: [CLC-Discussion] Lien Right?:
I believe that either a state OR local license is required for such improvements, subject to the $1,000 "handyman" exemption found in s. 489.103(9); however, since the contract price exceeds this amount, that exemption is not applicable.
I suggest that the local licensing requirements be considered.
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Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2015 11:00 PM
To: Sean A. Mickley
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Subject: Re: [CLC-Discussion] Lien Right?:
If the scope of work doesn't require a state license but the handyman is doing work improving the property (e.g. Painting, carpet or tile install) the work would be lienable regardless of non-state licensure under Ch. 489.
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On Jan 7, 2015, at 10:23 PM, Sean A. Mickley smickley@gouldcooksey.com wrote:
Does a handyman performing repairs and improvements in excess of $2,500 which do not require a license have lien rights on the property?
I understand that florida law requires a contractor be licensed in order to lien property, but it does not require a license for material men or laborers to lien the property. Arguably, the handyman is a hybrid between the two. I would appreciate any insight on this issue.
My initial conclusion is that the handyman does not have lien rights but I'd like to gather your collective thoughts.
Sean A. Mickley, Esq.
Gould Cooksey Fennell, P.A.
979 Beachland Blvd.
Vero Beach, FL 32963
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