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Re: [RPPTL LandTen] ELDERLY TENANTS

AF
Adrienne F. Promoff
Wed, Mar 19, 2014 10:05 AM

body{font-size:10pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif;background-color:#ffffff;color:black;}p{margin:0px;}I agree with #1 or #3 --

DCF does investigations and if the person needs assistance- DCF can go to the Court to obtain authority to step in for an interim period while the Court proceeds to have a hearing on incapacity -- the person -alleged incapacitated person ("AIP")- is appointed a lawyer and a 3 person examining committee is appointed to examine the person, etc. The standard is whether the person is able to care for themselves, is neglecting themselves, is possibly vulnerable to financial exploitation, etc.

I think the manager should so Something- even calling the police to get some action started. This could happen to anyone- after a stroke perhaps - or the onset of dementia-- We may be seeing many more cases like this- with the 60s generation aging---- so putting yourself in the persons shoes - well maybe no shoes here in the example----- wouldn't you want someone to do something? rather than turning a blind eye?

Anyway although I Really do dislike getting DCF or an entity involved-- it is the easiest way to get the ball rolling.

Now-- as a matter of self interest-- the manager does Not want this person to be injured on the property after it is common knowledge that he/she knew about the situation.....

That's my 42 cents on this and if you want to discuss in greater detail- give me a call.

My main areas of practice are Probate & Guardianship- administrations and litigation.

Have a good day- and keep your clothes on...just saying...

Adrienne

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ADRIENNE F.PROMOFF, ESQ.
Museum Tower * Penthouse II
150 West Flagler Street, Suite 2950
Miami, Florida 33l30
Tel: 305- 374-0102 Fax: 305-692-3086
Email: apromoff@mindspring.com

-----Original Message-----
From: "Joseph P. George, Jr."
Sent: Mar 18, 2014 10:02 PM
To: RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee
Subject: Re: [RPPTL LandTen] ELDERLY TENANTS

1- Try to benignly alert family if known;
2. Possible church assistance;
3. Last resort DCF's non-emergency intervention via 1-800-96-abuse # that includes self-neglect assistance, meals on wheels, etc.

Hope this protocol helps.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 18, 2014, at 9:43 PM, "Harry Heist" wrote:
>
> What is a good approach when an apartment manager sees that a person is unable to live by themselves? Wandering, housekeeping, walking around naked, confused etc and no relatives seem to be around or they don’t care?
>
> Ideas?
>
> Harry
>
> LAW OFFICES OF
> HEIST, WEISSE, & WOLK P.A.
> PH: 1 800 253 8428
> FAX: 1 800 367 9038
> "Serving the Property Management Professional"
> Website: www.evict.com
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JP
Joseph P George, Jr
Wed, Mar 19, 2014 11:26 AM

Ummmmmm, would you be my guardian, Adrienne...!?

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On Mar 19, 2014, at 6:05 AM, "Adrienne F. Promoff" apromoff@mindspring.com wrote:

I agree with #1 or #3 --
DCF does investigations and if the person needs assistance- DCF can go to the Court to obtain authority to step in for an interim period while the Court proceeds to have a hearing on incapacity -- the person -alleged incapacitated person ("AIP")- is appointed a lawyer and a 3 person examining committee is appointed to examine the person, etc. The standard is whether the person is able to care for themselves, is neglecting themselves, is possibly vulnerable to financial exploitation, etc.
I think the manager should so Something- even calling the police to get some action started. This could happen to anyone- after a stroke perhaps - or the onset of dementia-- We may be seeing many more cases like this- with the 60s generation aging---- so putting yourself in the persons shoes - well maybe no shoes here in the example----- wouldn't you want someone to do something? rather than turning a blind eye?
Anyway although I Really do dislike getting DCF or an entity involved-- it is the easiest way to get the ball rolling.
Now-- as a matter of self interest-- the manager does Not want this person to be injured on the property after it is common knowledge that he/she knew about the situation.....
That's my 42 cents on this and if you want to discuss in greater detail- give me a call.
My main areas of practice are Probate & Guardianship- administrations and litigation.
Have a good day- and keep your clothes on...just saying...
Adrienne

ADRIENNE F.PROMOFF, ESQ.
Museum Tower * Penthouse II
150 West Flagler Street, Suite 2950
Miami, Florida 33l30
Tel:  305- 374-0102 Fax: 305-692-3086
Email: apromoff@mindspring.com

-----Original Message-----
From: "Joseph P. George, Jr."
Sent: Mar 18, 2014 10:02 PM
To: RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee
Subject: Re: [RPPTL LandTen] ELDERLY TENANTS

1- Try to benignly alert family if known;
2. Possible church assistance;
3. Last resort DCF's non-emergency intervention via 1-800-96-abuse # that includes self-neglect assistance, meals on wheels, etc.

Hope this protocol helps.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 18, 2014, at 9:43 PM, "Harry Heist" wrote:

What is a good approach when an apartment manager sees that a person is unable to live by themselves? Wandering, housekeeping, walking around naked, confused etc and no relatives seem to be around or they don’t care?

Ideas?

Harry

LAW OFFICES OF
HEIST, WEISSE, & WOLK P.A.
PH: 1 800 253 8428
FAX: 1 800 367 9038
"Serving the Property Management Professional"
Website: www.evict.com
Email: harry@evict.com
THIS E-MAIL MESSAGE IS CONFIDENTIAL, ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGED, AND INTENDED FOR THE PERSONS NAMED ABOVE ONLY. ALL OTHER USE, COPYING, OR DISTRIBUTION IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED.


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Ummmmmm, would you be my guardian, Adrienne...!? Sent from my iPad > On Mar 19, 2014, at 6:05 AM, "Adrienne F. Promoff" <apromoff@mindspring.com> wrote: > > I agree with #1 or #3 -- > DCF does investigations and if the person needs assistance- DCF can go to the Court to obtain authority to step in for an interim period while the Court proceeds to have a hearing on incapacity -- the person -alleged incapacitated person ("AIP")- is appointed a lawyer and a 3 person examining committee is appointed to examine the person, etc. The standard is whether the person is able to care for themselves, is neglecting themselves, is possibly vulnerable to financial exploitation, etc. > I think the manager should so Something- even calling the police to get some action started. This could happen to anyone- after a stroke perhaps - or the onset of dementia-- We may be seeing many more cases like this- with the 60s generation aging---- so putting yourself in the persons shoes - well maybe no shoes here in the example----- wouldn't you want someone to do something? rather than turning a blind eye? > Anyway although I Really do dislike getting DCF or an entity involved-- it is the easiest way to get the ball rolling. > Now-- as a matter of self interest-- the manager does Not want this person to be injured on the property after it is common knowledge that he/she knew about the situation..... > That's my 42 cents on this and if you want to discuss in greater detail- give me a call. > My main areas of practice are Probate & Guardianship- administrations and litigation. > Have a good day- and keep your clothes on...just saying... > Adrienne > > ADRIENNE F.PROMOFF, ESQ. > Museum Tower * Penthouse II > 150 West Flagler Street, Suite 2950 > Miami, Florida 33l30 > Tel: 305- 374-0102 Fax: 305-692-3086 > Email: apromoff@mindspring.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Joseph P. George, Jr." > Sent: Mar 18, 2014 10:02 PM > To: RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee > Subject: Re: [RPPTL LandTen] ELDERLY TENANTS > > 1- Try to benignly alert family if known; > 2. Possible church assistance; > 3. Last resort DCF's non-emergency intervention via 1-800-96-abuse # that includes self-neglect assistance, meals on wheels, etc. > > Hope this protocol helps. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Mar 18, 2014, at 9:43 PM, "Harry Heist" wrote: > > > > What is a good approach when an apartment manager sees that a person is unable to live by themselves? Wandering, housekeeping, walking around naked, confused etc and no relatives seem to be around or they don’t care? > > > > Ideas? > > > > Harry > > > > LAW OFFICES OF > > HEIST, WEISSE, & WOLK P.A. > > PH: 1 800 253 8428 > > FAX: 1 800 367 9038 > > "Serving the Property Management Professional" > > Website: www.evict.com > > Email: harry@evict.com > > THIS E-MAIL MESSAGE IS CONFIDENTIAL, ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGED, AND INTENDED FOR THE PERSONS NAMED ABOVE ONLY. ALL OTHER USE, COPYING, OR DISTRIBUTION IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > landten mailing list > > landten@lists.flabarrpptl.org > > http://mailman.fsr.com/mailman/listinfo/landten > _______________________________________________ > landten mailing list > landten@lists.flabarrpptl.org > http://mailman.fsr.com/mailman/listinfo/landten