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[RPPTL LandTen] Pro Se E- Filing of Evictions and Small Claims

HH
Harry Heist
Tue, Jun 17, 2014 5:49 PM

Pro Se E-filing of evictions is now allowed.

Expect the out of state "eviction processors" that already are in many other
states to begin to advertise all over the state without having to follow any
Bar rules and scoop up a massive amount of eviction work from attorneys.
Some of my clients have already bought into their wild claims of "faster and
cheaper evictions". I already saw one of these companies at a trade show in
Jacksonville making wild claims.

Judges will not know who is actually filing so now we will not just be
competing with the pro se crooks  who put the 'NEED A TENANT EVICTED" sign
outside Home Depot.

The small law firm will soon be a thing of the past.

Judges will simply sign the final judgments not knowing who or what out of
state computer prepared the paperwork.

The judges who are not following the rule that corporations must have
attorneys  and for a property manager to file they must be an "actual
property manager" will erode our profession.

I am glad I am not an attorney just starting out.

Harry Heist

LAW OFFICES OF
HEIST, WEISSE & WOLK P.A.
PH: 1 800 253 8428
FAX: 1 800 367 9038
"Serving the Property Management Professional"
Website:  http://www.evict.com/ www.evict.com
Email:  mailto:harry@evict.com harry@evict.com

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Pro Se E-filing of evictions is now allowed. Expect the out of state "eviction processors" that already are in many other states to begin to advertise all over the state without having to follow any Bar rules and scoop up a massive amount of eviction work from attorneys. Some of my clients have already bought into their wild claims of "faster and cheaper evictions". I already saw one of these companies at a trade show in Jacksonville making wild claims. Judges will not know who is actually filing so now we will not just be competing with the pro se crooks who put the 'NEED A TENANT EVICTED" sign outside Home Depot. The small law firm will soon be a thing of the past. Judges will simply sign the final judgments not knowing who or what out of state computer prepared the paperwork. The judges who are not following the rule that corporations must have attorneys and for a property manager to file they must be an "actual property manager" will erode our profession. I am glad I am not an attorney just starting out. Harry Heist LAW OFFICES OF HEIST, WEISSE & WOLK P.A. PH: 1 800 253 8428 FAX: 1 800 367 9038 "Serving the Property Management Professional" Website: <http://www.evict.com/> www.evict.com Email: <mailto:harry@evict.com> harry@evict.com <https://www.facebook.com/pages/Heist-Weisse-Wolk-PA/343965575625870> Visit us on Facebook THIS E-MAIL MESSAGE IS CONFIDENTIAL, ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGED, AND INTENDED FOR THE PERSONS NAMED ABOVE ONLY. ALL OTHER USE, COPYING, OR DISTRIBUTION IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED.
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Leonard Cabral
Tue, Jun 17, 2014 6:58 PM

How are they paying the filing fee for evictions and paying for the writ of possession?
And I agree with Harry, they must comply with the Supreme Court definition of "property manager".

Leonard P. Cabral, Esq.
Leonardcabral@lenslaw.com
212 N. Park Ave. Ste. 14
Sanford, FL  32771

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Subject: [RPPTL LandTen] Pro Se E- Filing of Evictions and Small Claims

Pro Se E-filing of evictions is now allowed.

Expect the out of state "eviction processors" that already are in many other states to begin to advertise all over the state without having to follow any Bar rules and scoop up a massive amount of eviction work from attorneys. Some of my clients have already bought into their wild claims of "faster and cheaper evictions". I already saw one of these companies at a trade show in Jacksonville making wild claims.

Judges will not know who is actually filing so now we will not just be competing with the pro se crooks  who put the 'NEED A TENANT EVICTED" sign outside Home Depot.

The small law firm will soon be a thing of the past.

Judges will simply sign the final judgments not knowing who or what out of state computer prepared the paperwork.

The judges who are not following the rule that corporations must have attorneys  and for a property manager to file they must be an "actual property manager" will erode our profession.

I am glad I am not an attorney just starting out.

Harry Heist

LAW OFFICES OF
HEIST, WEISSE & WOLK P.A.
PH: 1 800 253 8428
FAX: 1 800 367 9038
"Serving the Property Management Professional"
Website:  www.evict.comhttp://www.evict.com/
Email: harry@evict.commailto:harry@evict.com
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How are they paying the filing fee for evictions and paying for the writ of possession? And I agree with Harry, they must comply with the Supreme Court definition of "property manager". Leonard P. Cabral, Esq. Leonardcabral@lenslaw.com 212 N. Park Ave. Ste. 14 Sanford, FL 32771 From: landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Harry Heist Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 1:50 PM To: 'RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee' Cc: DaleWestling@aol.com; mforte@rumberger.com; Srajtar@rajtar.com; ericfetter@ericfetterlaw.com; rmccain@barfieldpa.com; lporter@gte.net; chas@barrettpa.com; danielgdrake@aol.com; Trey@ThrasherLawFirm.com; lawoffice@fl-landlord.com; attorneyritchie@bellsouth.net; Kathi32601@hotmail.com; kfabrikant@khflaw.com; john@johnemcmillan.com Subject: [RPPTL LandTen] Pro Se E- Filing of Evictions and Small Claims Pro Se E-filing of evictions is now allowed. Expect the out of state "eviction processors" that already are in many other states to begin to advertise all over the state without having to follow any Bar rules and scoop up a massive amount of eviction work from attorneys. Some of my clients have already bought into their wild claims of "faster and cheaper evictions". I already saw one of these companies at a trade show in Jacksonville making wild claims. Judges will not know who is actually filing so now we will not just be competing with the pro se crooks who put the 'NEED A TENANT EVICTED" sign outside Home Depot. The small law firm will soon be a thing of the past. Judges will simply sign the final judgments not knowing who or what out of state computer prepared the paperwork. The judges who are not following the rule that corporations must have attorneys and for a property manager to file they must be an "actual property manager" will erode our profession. I am glad I am not an attorney just starting out. Harry Heist LAW OFFICES OF HEIST, WEISSE & WOLK P.A. PH: 1 800 253 8428 FAX: 1 800 367 9038 "Serving the Property Management Professional" Website: www.evict.com<http://www.evict.com/> Email: harry@evict.com<mailto:harry@evict.com> [cid:image001.png@01CF8A3C.AAC4F8A0]<https://www.facebook.com/pages/Heist-Weisse-Wolk-PA/343965575625870> Visit us on Facebook THIS E-MAIL MESSAGE IS CONFIDENTIAL, ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGED, AND INTENDED FOR THE PERSONS NAMED ABOVE ONLY. ALL OTHER USE, COPYING, OR DISTRIBUTION IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED.
LC
Leonard Cabral
Tue, Jun 17, 2014 7:12 PM

Can the group start a "UPL" campaign against these companies?
Leonard P. Cabral, Esq.
Leonardcabral@lenslaw.com
212 N. Park Ave. Ste. 14
Sanford, FL  32771

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Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 1:50 PM
To: 'RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee'
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Subject: [RPPTL LandTen] Pro Se E- Filing of Evictions and Small Claims

Pro Se E-filing of evictions is now allowed.

Expect the out of state "eviction processors" that already are in many other states to begin to advertise all over the state without having to follow any Bar rules and scoop up a massive amount of eviction work from attorneys. Some of my clients have already bought into their wild claims of "faster and cheaper evictions". I already saw one of these companies at a trade show in Jacksonville making wild claims.

Judges will not know who is actually filing so now we will not just be competing with the pro se crooks  who put the 'NEED A TENANT EVICTED" sign outside Home Depot.

The small law firm will soon be a thing of the past.

Judges will simply sign the final judgments not knowing who or what out of state computer prepared the paperwork.

The judges who are not following the rule that corporations must have attorneys  and for a property manager to file they must be an "actual property manager" will erode our profession.

I am glad I am not an attorney just starting out.

Harry Heist

LAW OFFICES OF
HEIST, WEISSE & WOLK P.A.
PH: 1 800 253 8428
FAX: 1 800 367 9038
"Serving the Property Management Professional"
Website:  www.evict.comhttp://www.evict.com/
Email: harry@evict.commailto:harry@evict.com
[cid:image001.png@01CF8A3E.8ECE6490]https://www.facebook.com/pages/Heist-Weisse-Wolk-PA/343965575625870

Visit us on Facebook

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Can the group start a "UPL" campaign against these companies? Leonard P. Cabral, Esq. Leonardcabral@lenslaw.com 212 N. Park Ave. Ste. 14 Sanford, FL 32771 From: landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Harry Heist Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 1:50 PM To: 'RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee' Cc: DaleWestling@aol.com; mforte@rumberger.com; Srajtar@rajtar.com; ericfetter@ericfetterlaw.com; rmccain@barfieldpa.com; lporter@gte.net; chas@barrettpa.com; danielgdrake@aol.com; Trey@ThrasherLawFirm.com; lawoffice@fl-landlord.com; attorneyritchie@bellsouth.net; Kathi32601@hotmail.com; kfabrikant@khflaw.com; john@johnemcmillan.com Subject: [RPPTL LandTen] Pro Se E- Filing of Evictions and Small Claims Pro Se E-filing of evictions is now allowed. Expect the out of state "eviction processors" that already are in many other states to begin to advertise all over the state without having to follow any Bar rules and scoop up a massive amount of eviction work from attorneys. Some of my clients have already bought into their wild claims of "faster and cheaper evictions". I already saw one of these companies at a trade show in Jacksonville making wild claims. Judges will not know who is actually filing so now we will not just be competing with the pro se crooks who put the 'NEED A TENANT EVICTED" sign outside Home Depot. The small law firm will soon be a thing of the past. Judges will simply sign the final judgments not knowing who or what out of state computer prepared the paperwork. The judges who are not following the rule that corporations must have attorneys and for a property manager to file they must be an "actual property manager" will erode our profession. I am glad I am not an attorney just starting out. Harry Heist LAW OFFICES OF HEIST, WEISSE & WOLK P.A. PH: 1 800 253 8428 FAX: 1 800 367 9038 "Serving the Property Management Professional" Website: www.evict.com<http://www.evict.com/> Email: harry@evict.com<mailto:harry@evict.com> [cid:image001.png@01CF8A3E.8ECE6490]<https://www.facebook.com/pages/Heist-Weisse-Wolk-PA/343965575625870> Visit us on Facebook THIS E-MAIL MESSAGE IS CONFIDENTIAL, ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGED, AND INTENDED FOR THE PERSONS NAMED ABOVE ONLY. ALL OTHER USE, COPYING, OR DISTRIBUTION IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED.
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Cary Sabol
Tue, Jun 17, 2014 7:44 PM

There needs to be a UPL campaign against a lot of people in the landlord/tenant area of law.  I see it all the time and as Harry said, so many judges don't even enforce the requirement that a corporation hire legal counsel.  I know it's county court, but it is still a court of law and becomes such a circus when non-lawyers try to do legal work.

Cary 
Law Offices of Cary P. Sabol
P.O. Box 15981 | West Palm Beach | Florida | 33416 
Phone: (561) 281-2744 


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On Tuesday, June 17, 2014 3:13 PM, Leonard Cabral leonardcabral@lenslaw.com wrote:

Can the group start a “UPL” campaign against these companies? 
Leonard P. Cabral, Esq.
Leonardcabral@lenslaw.com
212 N. Park Ave. Ste. 14
Sanford, FL  32771
 
 
 
From:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Harry Heist
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 1:50 PM
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Subject: [RPPTL LandTen] Pro Se E- Filing of Evictions and Small Claims
 
Pro Se E-filing of evictions is now allowed.
 
Expect the out of state “eviction processors” that already are in many other states to begin to advertise all over the state without having to follow any Bar rules and scoop up a massive amount of eviction work from attorneys. Some of my clients have already bought into their wild claims of “faster and cheaper evictions”. I already saw one of these companies at a trade show in Jacksonville making wild claims.
 
Judges will not know who is actually filing so now we will not just be competing with the pro se crooks  who put the ‘NEED A TENANT EVICTED” sign outside Home Depot.
 
The small law firm will soon be a thing of the past.  
 
Judges will simply sign the final judgments not knowing who or what out of state computer prepared the paperwork.
 
The judges who are not following the rule that corporations must have attorneys  and for a property manager to file they must be an “actual property manager” will erode our profession.
 
I am glad I am not an attorney just starting out.
 
Harry Heist
 
LAW OFFICES OF
HEIST, WEISSE & WOLK P.A.
PH: 1 800 253 8428
FAX: 1 800 367 9038
"Serving the Property Management Professional"
Website:  www.evict.com
Email: harry@evict.com

Visit us on Facebook     
 
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There needs to be a UPL campaign against a lot of people in the landlord/tenant area of law.  I see it all the time and as Harry said, so many judges don't even enforce the requirement that a corporation hire legal counsel.  I know it's county court, but it is still a court of law and becomes such a circus when non-lawyers try to do legal work. Cary  Law Offices of Cary P. Sabol P.O. Box 15981 | West Palm Beach | Florida | 33416  Phone: (561) 281-2744  ________________________________ IRS Circular 230 Notice: Pursuant to recently enacted U.S. Treasury Department Regulations, we are now required to advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice expressed above was neither written nor intended by the sender or this firm to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then the advice should be considered to have been written to support the promotion or marketing by a person other than the sender or this firm of that transaction or matter, and such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayer's particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor.   Confidentiality Notice: This electronic mail transmission is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential information belonging to the sender which is protected by the attorney-client privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail and delete the original message. Thank you for your cooperation. On Tuesday, June 17, 2014 3:13 PM, Leonard Cabral <leonardcabral@lenslaw.com> wrote: Can the group start a “UPL” campaign against these companies?  Leonard P. Cabral, Esq. Leonardcabral@lenslaw.com 212 N. Park Ave. Ste. 14 Sanford, FL  32771       From:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Harry Heist Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 1:50 PM To: 'RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee' Cc: DaleWestling@aol.com; mforte@rumberger.com; Srajtar@rajtar.com; ericfetter@ericfetterlaw.com; rmccain@barfieldpa.com; lporter@gte.net; chas@barrettpa.com; danielgdrake@aol.com; Trey@ThrasherLawFirm.com; lawoffice@fl-landlord.com; attorneyritchie@bellsouth.net; Kathi32601@hotmail.com; kfabrikant@khflaw.com; john@johnemcmillan.com Subject: [RPPTL LandTen] Pro Se E- Filing of Evictions and Small Claims   Pro Se E-filing of evictions is now allowed.   Expect the out of state “eviction processors” that already are in many other states to begin to advertise all over the state without having to follow any Bar rules and scoop up a massive amount of eviction work from attorneys. Some of my clients have already bought into their wild claims of “faster and cheaper evictions”. I already saw one of these companies at a trade show in Jacksonville making wild claims.   Judges will not know who is actually filing so now we will not just be competing with the pro se crooks  who put the ‘NEED A TENANT EVICTED” sign outside Home Depot.   The small law firm will soon be a thing of the past.     Judges will simply sign the final judgments not knowing who or what out of state computer prepared the paperwork.   The judges who are not following the rule that corporations must have attorneys  and for a property manager to file they must be an “actual property manager” will erode our profession.   I am glad I am not an attorney just starting out.   Harry Heist   LAW OFFICES OF HEIST, WEISSE & WOLK P.A. PH: 1 800 253 8428 FAX: 1 800 367 9038 "Serving the Property Management Professional" Website:  www.evict.com Email: harry@evict.com Visit us on Facebook     THIS E-MAIL MESSAGE IS CONFIDENTIAL, ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGED, AND INTENDED FOR THE PERSONS NAMED ABOVE ONLY.  ALL OTHER USE, COPYING, OR DISTRIBUTION IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED.     _______________________________________________ landten mailing list landten@lists.flabarrpptl.org http://mailman.fsr.com/mailman/listinfo/landten
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Leonard Cabral
Tue, Jun 17, 2014 8:05 PM

Cary:
It becomes a circus when PI attorneys get involved in evictions, and they are lawyers.  Some lawyers who do not practice in this area of law are under a false impression that evictions are easy.  Some are until they are not and then they can get complicated.

Leonard P. Cabral, Esq.
Leonardcabral@lenslaw.com
212 N. Park Ave. Ste. 14
Sanford, FL  32771

From: landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Cary Sabol
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 3:45 PM
To: RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee
Subject: Re: [RPPTL LandTen] Pro Se E- Filing of Evictions and Small Claims

There needs to be a UPL campaign against a lot of people in the landlord/tenant area of law.  I see it all the time and as Harry said, so many judges don't even enforce the requirement that a corporation hire legal counsel.  I know it's county court, but it is still a court of law and becomes such a circus when non-lawyers try to do legal work.

Cary
Law Offices of Cary P. Sabol
P.O. Box 15981 | West Palm Beach | Florida | 33416
Phone: (561) 281-2744
IRS Circular 230 Notice: Pursuant to recently enacted U.S. Treasury Department Regulations, we are now required to advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice expressed above was neither written nor intended by the sender or this firm to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then the advice should be considered to have been written to support the promotion or marketing by a person other than the sender or this firm of that transaction or matter, and such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayer's particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor.

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On Tuesday, June 17, 2014 3:13 PM, Leonard Cabral <leonardcabral@lenslaw.commailto:leonardcabral@lenslaw.com> wrote:

Can the group start a “UPL” campaign against these companies?
Leonard P. Cabral, Esq.
Leonardcabral@lenslaw.commailto:Leonardcabral@lenslaw.com
212 N. Park Ave. Ste. 14
Sanford, FL  32771

From: landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.orgmailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Harry Heist
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 1:50 PM
To: 'RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee'
Cc: DaleWestling@aol.commailto:DaleWestling@aol.com; mforte@rumberger.commailto:mforte@rumberger.com; Srajtar@rajtar.commailto:Srajtar@rajtar.com; ericfetter@ericfetterlaw.commailto:ericfetter@ericfetterlaw.com; rmccain@barfieldpa.commailto:rmccain@barfieldpa.com; lporter@gte.netmailto:lporter@gte.net; chas@barrettpa.commailto:chas@barrettpa.com; danielgdrake@aol.commailto:danielgdrake@aol.com; Trey@ThrasherLawFirm.commailto:Trey@ThrasherLawFirm.com; lawoffice@fl-landlord.commailto:lawoffice@fl-landlord.com; attorneyritchie@bellsouth.netmailto:attorneyritchie@bellsouth.net; Kathi32601@hotmail.commailto:Kathi32601@hotmail.com; kfabrikant@khflaw.commailto:kfabrikant@khflaw.com; john@johnemcmillan.commailto:john@johnemcmillan.com
Subject: [RPPTL LandTen] Pro Se E- Filing of Evictions and Small Claims

Pro Se E-filing of evictions is now allowed.

Expect the out of state “eviction processors” that already are in many other states to begin to advertise all over the state without having to follow any Bar rules and scoop up a massive amount of eviction work from attorneys. Some of my clients have already bought into their wild claims of “faster and cheaper evictions”. I already saw one of these companies at a trade show in Jacksonville making wild claims.

Judges will not know who is actually filing so now we will not just be competing with the pro se crooks  who put the ‘NEED A TENANT EVICTED” sign outside Home Depot.

The small law firm will soon be a thing of the past.

Judges will simply sign the final judgments not knowing who or what out of state computer prepared the paperwork.

The judges who are not following the rule that corporations must have attorneys  and for a property manager to file they must be an “actual property manager” will erode our profession.

I am glad I am not an attorney just starting out.

Harry Heist

LAW OFFICES OF
HEIST, WEISSE & WOLK P.A.
PH: 1 800 253 8428
FAX: 1 800 367 9038
"Serving the Property Management Professional"
Website:  www.evict.comhttp://www.evict.com/
Email: harry@evict.commailto:harry@evict.com
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Cary: It becomes a circus when PI attorneys get involved in evictions, and they are lawyers. Some lawyers who do not practice in this area of law are under a false impression that evictions are easy. Some are until they are not and then they can get complicated. Leonard P. Cabral, Esq. Leonardcabral@lenslaw.com 212 N. Park Ave. Ste. 14 Sanford, FL 32771 From: landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Cary Sabol Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 3:45 PM To: RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee Subject: Re: [RPPTL LandTen] Pro Se E- Filing of Evictions and Small Claims There needs to be a UPL campaign against a lot of people in the landlord/tenant area of law. I see it all the time and as Harry said, so many judges don't even enforce the requirement that a corporation hire legal counsel. I know it's county court, but it is still a court of law and becomes such a circus when non-lawyers try to do legal work. Cary Law Offices of Cary P. 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Park Ave. Ste. 14 Sanford, FL 32771 From: landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org<mailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org> [mailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Harry Heist Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 1:50 PM To: 'RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee' Cc: DaleWestling@aol.com<mailto:DaleWestling@aol.com>; mforte@rumberger.com<mailto:mforte@rumberger.com>; Srajtar@rajtar.com<mailto:Srajtar@rajtar.com>; ericfetter@ericfetterlaw.com<mailto:ericfetter@ericfetterlaw.com>; rmccain@barfieldpa.com<mailto:rmccain@barfieldpa.com>; lporter@gte.net<mailto:lporter@gte.net>; chas@barrettpa.com<mailto:chas@barrettpa.com>; danielgdrake@aol.com<mailto:danielgdrake@aol.com>; Trey@ThrasherLawFirm.com<mailto:Trey@ThrasherLawFirm.com>; lawoffice@fl-landlord.com<mailto:lawoffice@fl-landlord.com>; attorneyritchie@bellsouth.net<mailto:attorneyritchie@bellsouth.net>; Kathi32601@hotmail.com<mailto:Kathi32601@hotmail.com>; kfabrikant@khflaw.com<mailto:kfabrikant@khflaw.com>; john@johnemcmillan.com<mailto:john@johnemcmillan.com> Subject: [RPPTL LandTen] Pro Se E- Filing of Evictions and Small Claims Pro Se E-filing of evictions is now allowed. Expect the out of state “eviction processors” that already are in many other states to begin to advertise all over the state without having to follow any Bar rules and scoop up a massive amount of eviction work from attorneys. Some of my clients have already bought into their wild claims of “faster and cheaper evictions”. I already saw one of these companies at a trade show in Jacksonville making wild claims. Judges will not know who is actually filing so now we will not just be competing with the pro se crooks who put the ‘NEED A TENANT EVICTED” sign outside Home Depot. The small law firm will soon be a thing of the past. Judges will simply sign the final judgments not knowing who or what out of state computer prepared the paperwork. The judges who are not following the rule that corporations must have attorneys and for a property manager to file they must be an “actual property manager” will erode our profession. I am glad I am not an attorney just starting out. 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