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[RPPTL LandTen] Service by E-Portal

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Leonard Cabral
Mon, Apr 20, 2015 9:30 PM

On a motion for reconsideration the time to do so is 10 days. e-Service is treated as service by mail for the computation of time.  So am I correct that the time to file reconsideration is reduced to 5 days?  Has anyone faced this before?  Is there any way around this?

Leonard P. Cabral, Esq.
Leonardcabral@lenslaw.com
212 N. Park Ave. Ste. 14
Sanford, FL  32771

Please disregard inadvertent misspellings

On a motion for reconsideration the time to do so is 10 days. e-Service is treated as service by mail for the computation of time. So am I correct that the time to file reconsideration is reduced to 5 days? Has anyone faced this before? Is there any way around this? Leonard P. Cabral, Esq. Leonardcabral@lenslaw.com 212 N. Park Ave. Ste. 14 Sanford, FL 32771 Please disregard inadvertent misspellings
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Anthony J. Horky
Mon, Apr 20, 2015 11:17 PM
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Leonard Cabral
Tue, Apr 21, 2015 12:04 AM

I believe you are incorrect unless I am missing something (please tell me I am missing something).  I looked it up and it is very confusing (to me anyway). Judicial Rule 2.516 (b)(1)(D) Time of Service. Service by e-mail is complete on the date it is sent. But then look directly below and there it is, 2.516 (b)(1)(D)(iii) E-mail service, including e-service, is treated as service by mail for the computation of time.

Believe me I cannot make this sh** up.

Leonard P. Cabral, Esq.
Leonardcabral@lenslaw.com
Please disregard inadvertent misspellings and the use of abbreviations.

From: landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Anthony J. Horky
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 7:17 PM
To: landten@lists.flabarrpptl.org
Subject: Re: [RPPTL LandTen] Service by E-Portal

Service on the opposing party ‎ or 10 days to file the motion?  I believe that for filing, the day you efile it through the portal is considered filed. Not five days after efiling.

Sent from Anthony Horky's mobile email
From: Leonard Cabral
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 5:30 PM
To: RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee
Reply To: RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee
Subject: [RPPTL LandTen] Service by E-Portal

On a motion for reconsideration the time to do so is 10 days. e-Service is treated as service by mail for the computation of time.  So am I correct that the time to file reconsideration is reduced to 5 days?  Has anyone faced this before?  Is there any way around this?

Leonard P. Cabral, Esq.
Leonardcabral@lenslaw.commailto:Leonardcabral@lenslaw.com
212 N. Park Ave. Ste. 14
Sanford, FL  32771

Please disregard inadvertent misspellings

I believe you are incorrect unless I am missing something (please tell me I am missing something). I looked it up and it is very confusing (to me anyway). Judicial Rule 2.516 (b)(1)(D) Time of Service. Service by e-mail is complete on the date it is sent. But then look directly below and there it is, 2.516 (b)(1)(D)(iii) E-mail service, including e-service, is treated as service by mail for the computation of time. Believe me I cannot make this sh** up. Leonard P. Cabral, Esq. Leonardcabral@lenslaw.com Please disregard inadvertent misspellings and the use of abbreviations. From: landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Anthony J. Horky Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 7:17 PM To: landten@lists.flabarrpptl.org Subject: Re: [RPPTL LandTen] Service by E-Portal Service on the opposing party ‎ or 10 days to file the motion? I believe that for filing, the day you efile it through the portal is considered filed. Not five days after efiling. Sent from Anthony Horky's mobile email From: Leonard Cabral Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 5:30 PM To: RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee Reply To: RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee Subject: [RPPTL LandTen] Service by E-Portal On a motion for reconsideration the time to do so is 10 days. e-Service is treated as service by mail for the computation of time. So am I correct that the time to file reconsideration is reduced to 5 days? Has anyone faced this before? Is there any way around this? Leonard P. Cabral, Esq. Leonardcabral@lenslaw.com<mailto:Leonardcabral@lenslaw.com> 212 N. Park Ave. Ste. 14 Sanford, FL 32771 Please disregard inadvertent misspellings
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Deborah marks
Tue, Apr 21, 2015 8:46 AM

Email is definitely treated with the 5 days mailing. The rule history will comfirm that it was a deliberate choice on the part of the drafters.

As far as time requirements go- if the timeframe is from service of something it gets the extra 5 days, if it is from "rendition" it does not. Without knowing what it is you are reconsidering, there is no way to properly answer the question.

Deborah Marks
Deborah Marks, PA
18495 South Dixie Highway
Suite 134
Miami, FL 33157
305-372-9400

Deborah Marks
Deborah Marks, P.A.
18495 South Dixie Highway
Suite 134
Miami, FL 33157
305-372-9400
DeborahMarksLaw@gmail.com
synergy928@aol.com

On Apr 20, 2015, at 8:04 PM, Leonard Cabral LensLaw@Lenslaw.com wrote:

I believe you are incorrect unless I am missing something (please tell me I am missing something).  I looked it up and it is very confusing (to me anyway). Judicial Rule 2.516 (b)(1)(D) Time of Service. Service by e-mail is complete on the date it is sent. But then look directly below and there it is, 2.516 (b)(1)(D)(iii) E-mail service, including e-service, is treated as service by mail for the computation of time.

Believe me I cannot make this sh** up.

Leonard P. Cabral, Esq.
Leonardcabral@lenslaw.com
Please disregard inadvertent misspellings and the use of abbreviations.

From: landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Anthony J. Horky
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 7:17 PM
To: landten@lists.flabarrpptl.org
Subject: Re: [RPPTL LandTen] Service by E-Portal

Service on the opposing party ‎ or 10 days to file the motion?  I believe that for filing, the day you efile it through the portal is considered filed. Not five days after efiling.

Sent from Anthony Horky's mobile email
From: Leonard Cabral
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 5:30 PM
To: RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee
Reply To: RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee
Subject: [RPPTL LandTen] Service by E-Portal

On a motion for reconsideration the time to do so is 10 days. e-Service is treated as service by mail for the computation of time.  So am I correct that the time to file reconsideration is reduced to 5 days?  Has anyone faced this before?  Is there any way around this?

Leonard P. Cabral, Esq.
Leonardcabral@lenslaw.com
212 N. Park Ave. Ste. 14
Sanford, FL  32771

Please disregard inadvertent misspellings


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Email is definitely treated with the 5 days mailing. The rule history will comfirm that it was a deliberate choice on the part of the drafters. As far as time requirements go- if the timeframe is from service of something it gets the extra 5 days, if it is from "rendition" it does not. Without knowing what it is you are reconsidering, there is no way to properly answer the question. Deborah Marks Deborah Marks, PA 18495 South Dixie Highway Suite 134 Miami, FL 33157 305-372-9400 Deborah Marks Deborah Marks, P.A. 18495 South Dixie Highway Suite 134 Miami, FL 33157 305-372-9400 DeborahMarksLaw@gmail.com synergy928@aol.com > On Apr 20, 2015, at 8:04 PM, Leonard Cabral <LensLaw@Lenslaw.com> wrote: > > I believe you are incorrect unless I am missing something (please tell me I am missing something). I looked it up and it is very confusing (to me anyway). Judicial Rule 2.516 (b)(1)(D) Time of Service. Service by e-mail is complete on the date it is sent. But then look directly below and there it is, 2.516 (b)(1)(D)(iii) E-mail service, including e-service, is treated as service by mail for the computation of time. > > Believe me I cannot make this sh** up. > > Leonard P. Cabral, Esq. > Leonardcabral@lenslaw.com > Please disregard inadvertent misspellings and the use of abbreviations. > > From: landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Anthony J. Horky > Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 7:17 PM > To: landten@lists.flabarrpptl.org > Subject: Re: [RPPTL LandTen] Service by E-Portal > > Service on the opposing party ‎ or 10 days to file the motion? I believe that for filing, the day you efile it through the portal is considered filed. Not five days after efiling. > > Sent from Anthony Horky's mobile email > From: Leonard Cabral > Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 5:30 PM > To: RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee > Reply To: RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee > Subject: [RPPTL LandTen] Service by E-Portal > > On a motion for reconsideration the time to do so is 10 days. e-Service is treated as service by mail for the computation of time. So am I correct that the time to file reconsideration is reduced to 5 days? Has anyone faced this before? Is there any way around this? > > Leonard P. Cabral, Esq. > Leonardcabral@lenslaw.com > 212 N. Park Ave. Ste. 14 > Sanford, FL 32771 > > Please disregard inadvertent misspellings > > > > > _______________________________________________ > landten mailing list > landten@lists.flabarrpptl.org > http://mailman.fsr.com/mailman/listinfo/landten
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Deborah marks
Tue, Apr 21, 2015 8:50 AM

One more thing on eservice- the 5 days is added to when you have to file a response. What the other part of the rule is saying is that when you file in the portal it is filed as of that day. The sections you quote relate to two separate things- the time of filing for the filer, and when you have to respond to something that has been filed. They are not i consistent.

Deborah Marks
Deborah Marks, P.A.
18495 South Dixie Highway
Suite 134
Miami, FL 33157
305-372-9400
DeborahMarksLaw@gmail.com
synergy928@aol.com

On Apr 20, 2015, at 8:04 PM, Leonard Cabral LensLaw@Lenslaw.com wrote:

I believe you are incorrect unless I am missing something (please tell me I am missing something).  I looked it up and it is very confusing (to me anyway). Judicial Rule 2.516 (b)(1)(D) Time of Service. Service by e-mail is complete on the date it is sent. But then look directly below and there it is, 2.516 (b)(1)(D)(iii) E-mail service, including e-service, is treated as service by mail for the computation of time.

Believe me I cannot make this sh** up.

Leonard P. Cabral, Esq.
Leonardcabral@lenslaw.com
Please disregard inadvertent misspellings and the use of abbreviations.

From: landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Anthony J. Horky
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 7:17 PM
To: landten@lists.flabarrpptl.org
Subject: Re: [RPPTL LandTen] Service by E-Portal

Service on the opposing party ‎ or 10 days to file the motion?  I believe that for filing, the day you efile it through the portal is considered filed. Not five days after efiling.

Sent from Anthony Horky's mobile email
From: Leonard Cabral
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 5:30 PM
To: RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee
Reply To: RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee
Subject: [RPPTL LandTen] Service by E-Portal

On a motion for reconsideration the time to do so is 10 days. e-Service is treated as service by mail for the computation of time.  So am I correct that the time to file reconsideration is reduced to 5 days?  Has anyone faced this before?  Is there any way around this?

Leonard P. Cabral, Esq.
Leonardcabral@lenslaw.com
212 N. Park Ave. Ste. 14
Sanford, FL  32771

Please disregard inadvertent misspellings


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One more thing on eservice- the 5 days is added to when you have to file a response. What the other part of the rule is saying is that when you file in the portal it is filed as of that day. The sections you quote relate to two separate things- the time of filing for the filer, and when you have to respond to something that has been filed. They are not i consistent. Deborah Marks Deborah Marks, P.A. 18495 South Dixie Highway Suite 134 Miami, FL 33157 305-372-9400 DeborahMarksLaw@gmail.com synergy928@aol.com > On Apr 20, 2015, at 8:04 PM, Leonard Cabral <LensLaw@Lenslaw.com> wrote: > > I believe you are incorrect unless I am missing something (please tell me I am missing something). I looked it up and it is very confusing (to me anyway). Judicial Rule 2.516 (b)(1)(D) Time of Service. Service by e-mail is complete on the date it is sent. But then look directly below and there it is, 2.516 (b)(1)(D)(iii) E-mail service, including e-service, is treated as service by mail for the computation of time. > > Believe me I cannot make this sh** up. > > Leonard P. Cabral, Esq. > Leonardcabral@lenslaw.com > Please disregard inadvertent misspellings and the use of abbreviations. > > From: landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Anthony J. Horky > Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 7:17 PM > To: landten@lists.flabarrpptl.org > Subject: Re: [RPPTL LandTen] Service by E-Portal > > Service on the opposing party ‎ or 10 days to file the motion? I believe that for filing, the day you efile it through the portal is considered filed. Not five days after efiling. > > Sent from Anthony Horky's mobile email > From: Leonard Cabral > Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 5:30 PM > To: RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee > Reply To: RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee > Subject: [RPPTL LandTen] Service by E-Portal > > On a motion for reconsideration the time to do so is 10 days. e-Service is treated as service by mail for the computation of time. So am I correct that the time to file reconsideration is reduced to 5 days? Has anyone faced this before? Is there any way around this? > > Leonard P. Cabral, Esq. > Leonardcabral@lenslaw.com > 212 N. Park Ave. Ste. 14 > Sanford, FL 32771 > > Please disregard inadvertent misspellings > > > > > _______________________________________________ > landten mailing list > landten@lists.flabarrpptl.org > http://mailman.fsr.com/mailman/listinfo/landten
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Leonard Cabral
Tue, Apr 21, 2015 8:30 PM

Thank you Deborah for clearing that up for me.  That actually makes sense to me.

Leonard P. Cabral, Esq.
Leonardcabral@lenslaw.com
Please disregard inadvertent misspellings and the use of abbreviations.

From: landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Deborah marks
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2015 4:50 AM
To: RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee
Subject: Re: [RPPTL LandTen] Service by E-Portal

One more thing on eservice- the 5 days is added to when you have to file a response. What the other part of the rule is saying is that when you file in the portal it is filed as of that day. The sections you quote relate to two separate things- the time of filing for the filer, and when you have to respond to something that has been filed. They are not i consistent.

Deborah Marks
Deborah Marks, P.A.
18495 South Dixie Highway
Suite 134
Miami, FL 33157
305-372-9400
DeborahMarksLaw@gmail.commailto:DeborahMarksLaw@gmail.com
synergy928@aol.commailto:synergy928@aol.com

On Apr 20, 2015, at 8:04 PM, Leonard Cabral <LensLaw@Lenslaw.commailto:LensLaw@Lenslaw.com> wrote:
I believe you are incorrect unless I am missing something (please tell me I am missing something).  I looked it up and it is very confusing (to me anyway). Judicial Rule 2.516 (b)(1)(D) Time of Service. Service by e-mail is complete on the date it is sent. But then look directly below and there it is, 2.516 (b)(1)(D)(iii) E-mail service, including e-service, is treated as service by mail for the computation of time.

Believe me I cannot make this sh** up.

Leonard P. Cabral, Esq.
Leonardcabral@lenslaw.commailto:Leonardcabral@lenslaw.com
Please disregard inadvertent misspellings and the use of abbreviations.

From: landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.orgmailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Anthony J. Horky
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 7:17 PM
To: landten@lists.flabarrpptl.orgmailto:landten@lists.flabarrpptl.org
Subject: Re: [RPPTL LandTen] Service by E-Portal

Service on the opposing party ‎ or 10 days to file the motion?  I believe that for filing, the day you efile it through the portal is considered filed. Not five days after efiling.

Sent from Anthony Horky's mobile email
From: Leonard Cabral
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 5:30 PM
To: RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee
Reply To: RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee
Subject: [RPPTL LandTen] Service by E-Portal

On a motion for reconsideration the time to do so is 10 days. e-Service is treated as service by mail for the computation of time.  So am I correct that the time to file reconsideration is reduced to 5 days?  Has anyone faced this before?  Is there any way around this?

Leonard P. Cabral, Esq.
Leonardcabral@lenslaw.commailto:Leonardcabral@lenslaw.com
212 N. Park Ave. Ste. 14
Sanford, FL  32771

Please disregard inadvertent misspellings


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Thank you Deborah for clearing that up for me. That actually makes sense to me. Leonard P. Cabral, Esq. Leonardcabral@lenslaw.com Please disregard inadvertent misspellings and the use of abbreviations. From: landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Deborah marks Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2015 4:50 AM To: RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee Subject: Re: [RPPTL LandTen] Service by E-Portal One more thing on eservice- the 5 days is added to when you have to file a response. What the other part of the rule is saying is that when you file in the portal it is filed as of that day. The sections you quote relate to two separate things- the time of filing for the filer, and when you have to respond to something that has been filed. They are not i consistent. Deborah Marks Deborah Marks, P.A. 18495 South Dixie Highway Suite 134 Miami, FL 33157 305-372-9400 DeborahMarksLaw@gmail.com<mailto:DeborahMarksLaw@gmail.com> synergy928@aol.com<mailto:synergy928@aol.com> On Apr 20, 2015, at 8:04 PM, Leonard Cabral <LensLaw@Lenslaw.com<mailto:LensLaw@Lenslaw.com>> wrote: I believe you are incorrect unless I am missing something (please tell me I am missing something). I looked it up and it is very confusing (to me anyway). Judicial Rule 2.516 (b)(1)(D) Time of Service. Service by e-mail is complete on the date it is sent. But then look directly below and there it is, 2.516 (b)(1)(D)(iii) E-mail service, including e-service, is treated as service by mail for the computation of time. Believe me I cannot make this sh** up. Leonard P. Cabral, Esq. Leonardcabral@lenslaw.com<mailto:Leonardcabral@lenslaw.com> Please disregard inadvertent misspellings and the use of abbreviations. From: landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org<mailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org> [mailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Anthony J. Horky Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 7:17 PM To: landten@lists.flabarrpptl.org<mailto:landten@lists.flabarrpptl.org> Subject: Re: [RPPTL LandTen] Service by E-Portal Service on the opposing party ‎ or 10 days to file the motion? I believe that for filing, the day you efile it through the portal is considered filed. Not five days after efiling. Sent from Anthony Horky's mobile email From: Leonard Cabral Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 5:30 PM To: RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee Reply To: RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee Subject: [RPPTL LandTen] Service by E-Portal On a motion for reconsideration the time to do so is 10 days. e-Service is treated as service by mail for the computation of time. So am I correct that the time to file reconsideration is reduced to 5 days? Has anyone faced this before? Is there any way around this? Leonard P. Cabral, Esq. Leonardcabral@lenslaw.com<mailto:Leonardcabral@lenslaw.com> 212 N. Park Ave. Ste. 14 Sanford, FL 32771 Please disregard inadvertent misspellings _______________________________________________ landten mailing list landten@lists.flabarrpptl.org<mailto:landten@lists.flabarrpptl.org> http://mailman.fsr.com/mailman/listinfo/landten