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James Birr

Tue, Sep 16, 2014 7:42 PM

Pardon the interruption,

Is there a scope of services that definitively qualifies as "handyman" services and does not require licensure by the CILB.

Thanks in advance.

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James O. "Joby" Birr, III, Esq.
Board Certified in Construction Law
Jimerson & Cobb, P.A.
Business Litigation | Construction Litigation | Banking Law | Creditor's Rights & AR Collection | Community Associations

Telephone: (904) 389-0050 | Facsimile: (904) 212-1269
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Pardon the interruption, Is there a scope of services that definitively qualifies as "handyman" services and does not require licensure by the CILB. Thanks in advance. [cid:image003.png@01CFD1C4.C6321580] James O. "Joby" Birr, III, Esq. Board Certified in Construction Law Jimerson & Cobb, P.A. Business Litigation | Construction Litigation | Banking Law | Creditor's Rights & AR Collection | Community Associations Telephone: (904) 389-0050 | Facsimile: (904) 212-1269 jbirr@jimersoncobb.com<mailto:jbirr@jimersoncobb.com> | JimersonCobb.com<http://www.jimersoncobb.com/> Add to Contacts<http://www.jimersoncobb.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/James-O-Birr.vcf> | View Biography<http://www.jimersoncobb.com/attorneys/james-o-birr/>

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Arnold Tritt

Tue, Sep 16, 2014 8:07 PM

If only the CLC had an attorney in its ranks that served on the CILB (but I guess that person couldn't comment on hypotheticals). Hum??

From: clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of James Birr
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 3:42 PM
To: clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org
Subject: [CLC-Discussion] Licensing question

Pardon the interruption,

Is there a scope of services that definitively qualifies as "handyman" services and does not require licensure by the CILB.

Thanks in advance.

[cid:image002.png@01CFD1C8.0455CCF0]

James O. "Joby" Birr, III, Esq.
Board Certified in Construction Law
Jimerson & Cobb, P.A.
Business Litigation | Construction Litigation | Banking Law | Creditor's Rights & AR Collection | Community Associations

Telephone: (904) 389-0050 | Facsimile: (904) 212-1269
jbirr@jimersoncobb.com mailto:jbirr@jimersoncobb.com | JimersonCobb.comhttp://www.jimersoncobb.com/

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If only the CLC had an attorney in its ranks that served on the CILB (but I guess that person couldn't comment on hypotheticals). Hum?? From: clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of James Birr Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 3:42 PM To: clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org Subject: [CLC-Discussion] Licensing question Pardon the interruption, Is there a scope of services that definitively qualifies as "handyman" services and does not require licensure by the CILB. Thanks in advance. [cid:image002.png@01CFD1C8.0455CCF0] James O. "Joby" Birr, III, Esq. Board Certified in Construction Law Jimerson & Cobb, P.A. Business Litigation | Construction Litigation | Banking Law | Creditor's Rights & AR Collection | Community Associations Telephone: (904) 389-0050 | Facsimile: (904) 212-1269 jbirr@jimersoncobb.com<mailto:jbirr@jimersoncobb.com> | JimersonCobb.com<http://www.jimersoncobb.com/> Add to Contacts<http://www.jimersoncobb.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/James-O-Birr.vcf> | View Biography<http://www.jimersoncobb.com/attorneys/james-o-birr/>

JP

Jeff Price

Tue, Sep 16, 2014 8:22 PM

Handyman scope of work definition: Something that can be fixed with duct
tape.

If it can't, hire a licensed Florida Contractor.

Jeffrey L. Price, Esq.
Florida Bar Board Certified - Construction Law

Niesen|Price|Worthy|Campo, PA
5216 SW 91st Drive Gainesville, FL 32608
Ph (352) 373-9031 Fax (352) 373-9099

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[mailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of James
Birr
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 3:42 PM
To: clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org
Subject: [CLC-Discussion] Licensing question

Pardon the interruption,

Is there a scope of services that definitively qualifies as "handyman"
services and does not require licensure by the CILB.

Thanks in advance.

James O. "Joby" Birr, III, Esq.

Board Certified in Construction Law

Jimerson & Cobb, P.A.

Business Litigation | Construction Litigation | Banking Law | Creditor's
Rights & AR Collection | Community Associations

Telephone: (904) 389-0050 | Facsimile: (904) 212-1269
jbirr@jimersoncobb.com | http://www.jimersoncobb.com/ JimersonCobb.com

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Handyman scope of work definition: Something that can be fixed with duct tape. If it can't, hire a licensed Florida Contractor. Jeffrey L. Price, Esq. Florida Bar Board Certified - Construction Law Niesen|Price|Worthy|Campo, PA 5216 SW 91st Drive Gainesville, FL 32608 Ph (352) 373-9031 Fax (352) 373-9099 http://npw-law.com <http://npw-law.com/> ConstructionLaw small logo NPW_Logo_Fluted_Thumb (1) ConstructionLaw small logo This communication is intended for the sole use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this communication is not the intended recipient, employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify me by telephone, delete this communication, and destroy any copies of it. Thank you. From: clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of James Birr Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 3:42 PM To: clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org Subject: [CLC-Discussion] Licensing question Pardon the interruption, Is there a scope of services that definitively qualifies as "handyman" services and does not require licensure by the CILB. Thanks in advance. James O. "Joby" Birr, III, Esq. Board Certified in Construction Law Jimerson & Cobb, P.A. Business Litigation | Construction Litigation | Banking Law | Creditor's Rights & AR Collection | Community Associations Telephone: (904) 389-0050 | Facsimile: (904) 212-1269 jbirr@jimersoncobb.com | <http://www.jimersoncobb.com/> JimersonCobb.com Add to Contacts <http://www.jimersoncobb.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/James-O-Birr.vcf> | View Biography <http://www.jimersoncobb.com/attorneys/james-o-birr/>

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Charles B. Hernicz, Esq

Tue, Sep 16, 2014 8:35 PM

It seems that's kind of backwards from the way the analysis should apply.
The first question is whether the type of work being performed requires a
licensed contractor under chapter 489 (see section 489.105 of definitions)
and FAC 61-G4. If law and regulation do not require the work to be
performed by a licensed contractor, then it can be done by a handyman. The
DBPR website has a useful list of what constitutes unlicensed activity for
all professions it administers--
http://www.myfloridalicense.com/dbpr/services.html

Chuck

Charles B. Hernicz, Esq.
Board Certified in Construction Law by The Florida Bar
Hernicz Legal Services, P.L.
15854 Bent Creek Road
Wellington, FL 33414
Telephone: (561) 753-7511
Facsimile: (561) 753-7082
Chernicz@HerniczLegal.com

From: clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org
[mailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of James
Birr
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 3:42 PM
To: clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org
Subject: [CLC-Discussion] Licensing question

Pardon the interruption,

Is there a scope of services that definitively qualifies as "handyman"
services and does not require licensure by the CILB.

Thanks in advance.

James O. "Joby" Birr, III, Esq.

Board Certified in Construction Law

Jimerson & Cobb, P.A.

Business Litigation | Construction Litigation | Banking Law | Creditor's
Rights & AR Collection | Community Associations

Telephone: (904) 389-0050 | Facsimile: (904) 212-1269
jbirr@jimersoncobb.com | http://www.jimersoncobb.com/ JimersonCobb.com

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It seems that's kind of backwards from the way the analysis should apply. The first question is whether the type of work being performed requires a licensed contractor under chapter 489 (see section 489.105 of definitions) and FAC 61-G4. If law and regulation do not require the work to be performed by a licensed contractor, then it can be done by a handyman. The DBPR website has a useful list of what constitutes unlicensed activity for all professions it administers-- http://www.myfloridalicense.com/dbpr/services.html Chuck Charles B. Hernicz, Esq. Board Certified in Construction Law by The Florida Bar Hernicz Legal Services, P.L. 15854 Bent Creek Road Wellington, FL 33414 Telephone: (561) 753-7511 Facsimile: (561) 753-7082 Chernicz@HerniczLegal.com From: clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of James Birr Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 3:42 PM To: clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org Subject: [CLC-Discussion] Licensing question Pardon the interruption, Is there a scope of services that definitively qualifies as "handyman" services and does not require licensure by the CILB. Thanks in advance. James O. "Joby" Birr, III, Esq. Board Certified in Construction Law Jimerson & Cobb, P.A. Business Litigation | Construction Litigation | Banking Law | Creditor's Rights & AR Collection | Community Associations Telephone: (904) 389-0050 | Facsimile: (904) 212-1269 jbirr@jimersoncobb.com | <http://www.jimersoncobb.com/> JimersonCobb.com Add to Contacts <http://www.jimersoncobb.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/James-O-Birr.vcf> | View Biography <http://www.jimersoncobb.com/attorneys/james-o-birr/>

CB

Charles B. Hernicz, Esq

Tue, Sep 16, 2014 8:37 PM

If there were such a person, Arnie, his opinion would be very valuable, but
he would likely caveat all opinions with something like "I cannot speak on
behalf of the CILB, of course, but. . .."

Charles B. Hernicz, Esq.
Board Certified in Construction Law by The Florida Bar
Hernicz Legal Services, P.L.
15854 Bent Creek Road
Wellington, FL 33414
Telephone: (561) 753-7511
Facsimile: (561) 753-7082
Chernicz@HerniczLegal.com

From: clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org
[mailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Arnold
Tritt
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 4:07 PM
To: clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org
Subject: Re: [CLC-Discussion] Licensing question

If only the CLC had an attorney in its ranks that served on the CILB (but I
guess that person couldn't comment on hypotheticals). Hum??

From: clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org
[mailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of James
Birr
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 3:42 PM
To: clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org
Subject: [CLC-Discussion] Licensing question

Pardon the interruption,

Is there a scope of services that definitively qualifies as "handyman"
services and does not require licensure by the CILB.

Thanks in advance.

James O. "Joby" Birr, III, Esq.

Board Certified in Construction Law

Jimerson & Cobb, P.A.

Business Litigation | Construction Litigation | Banking Law | Creditor's
Rights & AR Collection | Community Associations

Telephone: (904) 389-0050 | Facsimile: (904) 212-1269
jbirr@jimersoncobb.com | http://www.jimersoncobb.com/ JimersonCobb.com

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If there were such a person, Arnie, his opinion would be very valuable, but he would likely caveat all opinions with something like "I cannot speak on behalf of the CILB, of course, but. . .." Charles B. Hernicz, Esq. Board Certified in Construction Law by The Florida Bar Hernicz Legal Services, P.L. 15854 Bent Creek Road Wellington, FL 33414 Telephone: (561) 753-7511 Facsimile: (561) 753-7082 Chernicz@HerniczLegal.com From: clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Arnold Tritt Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 4:07 PM To: clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org Subject: Re: [CLC-Discussion] Licensing question If only the CLC had an attorney in its ranks that served on the CILB (but I guess that person couldn't comment on hypotheticals). Hum?? From: clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of James Birr Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 3:42 PM To: clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org Subject: [CLC-Discussion] Licensing question Pardon the interruption, Is there a scope of services that definitively qualifies as "handyman" services and does not require licensure by the CILB. Thanks in advance. James O. "Joby" Birr, III, Esq. Board Certified in Construction Law Jimerson & Cobb, P.A. Business Litigation | Construction Litigation | Banking Law | Creditor's Rights & AR Collection | Community Associations Telephone: (904) 389-0050 | Facsimile: (904) 212-1269 jbirr@jimersoncobb.com | <http://www.jimersoncobb.com/> JimersonCobb.com Add to Contacts <http://www.jimersoncobb.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/James-O-Birr.vcf> | View Biography <http://www.jimersoncobb.com/attorneys/james-o-birr/>

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Fred Dudley

Tue, Sep 16, 2014 8:41 PM

Arnie: that's called "baiting" which is how we Indians trap gators.

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone

-------- Original message --------
From: Arnold Tritt arnold.tritt@atritt.com
Date:09/16/2014 4:24 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org
Cc:
Subject: Re: [CLC-Discussion] Licensing question

If only the CLC had an attorney in its ranks that served on the CILB (but I guess that person couldn’t comment on hypotheticals). Hum??

From: clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of James Birr
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 3:42 PM
To: clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org
Subject: [CLC-Discussion] Licensing question

Pardon the interruption,

Is there a scope of services that definitively qualifies as “handyman” services and does not require licensure by the CILB.

Thanks in advance.

[cid:image002.png@01CFD1C8.0455CCF0]

James O. “Joby” Birr, III, Esq.
Board Certified in Construction Law
Jimerson & Cobb, P.A.
Business Litigation | Construction Litigation | Banking Law | Creditor’s Rights & AR Collection | Community Associations

Telephone: (904) 389-0050 | Facsimile: (904) 212-1269
jbirr@jimersoncobb.com mailto:jbirr@jimersoncobb.com | JimersonCobb.comhttp://www.jimersoncobb.com/

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Arnie: that's called "baiting" which is how we Indians trap gators. Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Arnold Tritt <arnold.tritt@atritt.com> Date:09/16/2014 4:24 PM (GMT-05:00) To: clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org Cc: Subject: Re: [CLC-Discussion] Licensing question If only the CLC had an attorney in its ranks that served on the CILB (but I guess that person couldn’t comment on hypotheticals). Hum?? From: clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of James Birr Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 3:42 PM To: clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org Subject: [CLC-Discussion] Licensing question Pardon the interruption, Is there a scope of services that definitively qualifies as “handyman” services and does not require licensure by the CILB. Thanks in advance. [cid:image002.png@01CFD1C8.0455CCF0] James O. “Joby” Birr, III, Esq. Board Certified in Construction Law Jimerson & Cobb, P.A. Business Litigation | Construction Litigation | Banking Law | Creditor’s Rights & AR Collection | Community Associations Telephone: (904) 389-0050 | Facsimile: (904) 212-1269 jbirr@jimersoncobb.com<mailto:jbirr@jimersoncobb.com> | JimersonCobb.com<http://www.jimersoncobb.com/> Add to Contacts<http://www.jimersoncobb.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/James-O-Birr.vcf> | View Biography<http://www.jimersoncobb.com/attorneys/james-o-birr/>

CG

Claramargaret Groover

Tue, Sep 16, 2014 9:23 PM

Useful but not complete.

Claire
Claramargaret H. Groover, Esquire
Florida Bar Board Certified in Construction Law
Florida Supreme Court Certified Circuit Civil and Appellate Mediator
Bank of America Building Post Office Box 547713
390 North Orange Avenue Orlando, Florida 32854-7713
Suite 2300
Orlando, Florida 32801 P: 407.982.4133

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From: clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Charles B. Hernicz, Esq
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 4:36 PM
To: 'James Birr'; clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org
Subject: Re: [CLC-Discussion] Licensing question

It seems that's kind of backwards from the way the analysis should apply. The first question is whether the type of work being performed requires a licensed contractor under chapter 489 (see section 489.105 of definitions) and FAC 61-G4. If law and regulation do not require the work to be performed by a licensed contractor, then it can be done by a handyman. The DBPR website has a useful list of what constitutes unlicensed activity for all professions it administers-- http://www.myfloridalicense.com/dbpr/services.html

Chuck

Charles B. Hernicz, Esq.
Board Certified in Construction Law by The Florida Bar
Hernicz Legal Services, P.L.
15854 Bent Creek Road
Wellington, FL 33414
Telephone: (561) 753-7511
Facsimile: (561) 753-7082
Chernicz@HerniczLegal.com

From: clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org mailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of James Birr
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 3:42 PM
To: clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org mailto:clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org
Subject: [CLC-Discussion] Licensing question

Pardon the interruption,

Is there a scope of services that definitively qualifies as "handyman" services and does not require licensure by the CILB.

Thanks in advance.

[cid:image002.png@01CFD1D2.EFAA5A90]

James O. "Joby" Birr, III, Esq.
Board Certified in Construction Law
Jimerson & Cobb, P.A.
Business Litigation | Construction Litigation | Banking Law | Creditor's Rights & AR Collection | Community Associations

Telephone: (904) 389-0050 | Facsimile: (904) 212-1269
jbirr@jimersoncobb.com mailto:jbirr@jimersoncobb.com | JimersonCobb.comhttp://www.jimersoncobb.com/

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Useful but not complete. Claire Claramargaret H. Groover, Esquire Florida Bar Board Certified in Construction Law Florida Supreme Court Certified Circuit Civil and Appellate Mediator Bank of America Building Post Office Box 547713 390 North Orange Avenue Orlando, Florida 32854-7713 Suite 2300 Orlando, Florida 32801 P: 407.982.4133 This e-mail contains legally privileged and confidential information intended only for the individual or entity named within the message. Should the intended recipient forward this message to another person or party, that action could constitute a waiver of the attorney/client privilege. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is prohibited. If this communication was received in error, please notify us by reply e-mail and delete the original message. Disclaimer Under IRS Circular 230: Any statements regarding tax matters made herein, including any attachments cannot be relied upon or used by any person to avoid tax penalties and are not intended to be used or referred to in any marketing or promotional materials. From: clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Charles B. Hernicz, Esq Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 4:36 PM To: 'James Birr'; clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org Subject: Re: [CLC-Discussion] Licensing question It seems that's kind of backwards from the way the analysis should apply. The first question is whether the type of work being performed requires a licensed contractor under chapter 489 (see section 489.105 of definitions) and FAC 61-G4. If law and regulation do not require the work to be performed by a licensed contractor, then it can be done by a handyman. The DBPR website has a useful list of what constitutes unlicensed activity for all professions it administers-- http://www.myfloridalicense.com/dbpr/services.html Chuck Charles B. Hernicz, Esq. Board Certified in Construction Law by The Florida Bar Hernicz Legal Services, P.L. 15854 Bent Creek Road Wellington, FL 33414 Telephone: (561) 753-7511 Facsimile: (561) 753-7082 Chernicz@HerniczLegal.com From: clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org<mailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org> [mailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of James Birr Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 3:42 PM To: clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org<mailto:clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org> Subject: [CLC-Discussion] Licensing question Pardon the interruption, Is there a scope of services that definitively qualifies as "handyman" services and does not require licensure by the CILB. Thanks in advance. [cid:image002.png@01CFD1D2.EFAA5A90] James O. "Joby" Birr, III, Esq. Board Certified in Construction Law Jimerson & Cobb, P.A. Business Litigation | Construction Litigation | Banking Law | Creditor's Rights & AR Collection | Community Associations Telephone: (904) 389-0050 | Facsimile: (904) 212-1269 jbirr@jimersoncobb.com<mailto:jbirr@jimersoncobb.com> | JimersonCobb.com<http://www.jimersoncobb.com/> Add to Contacts<http://www.jimersoncobb.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/James-O-Birr.vcf> | View Biography<http://www.jimersoncobb.com/attorneys/james-o-birr/>

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lan (at) lwwhiteattorney.com

Tue, Sep 16, 2014 9:40 PM

Two possibilities. If it doesnt require a Division I or Division II license
then obviously anything a handyman might do is OK. The other possibility is
the exclusion for minor and inconsequential work [§489.103(9)]. Im a
Special Magistrate for the Pinellas Count Construction Licensing Board, in
which county the limit is lowered to $500.00, and the most frequent
difficulty I see with handymen is that they work in areas for which a
life-safety type of license is required [e.g. roofing] regardless of dollar
amount, or their total price exceeds the dollar limit.

Regards,

Lan White

(727) 797-5599

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From: clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org
[mailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of James
Birr
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 3:42 PM
To: clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org
Subject: [CLC-Discussion] Licensing question

Pardon the interruption,

Is there a scope of services that definitively qualifies as handyman
services and does not require licensure by the CILB.

Thanks in advance.

James O. Joby Birr, III, Esq.

Board Certified in Construction Law

Jimerson & Cobb, P.A.

Business Litigation | Construction Litigation | Banking Law | Creditors
Rights & AR Collection | Community Associations

Telephone: (904) 389-0050 | Facsimile: (904) 212-1269
jbirr@jimersoncobb.com | http://www.jimersoncobb.com/ JimersonCobb.com

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Two possibilities. If it doesnt require a Division I or Division II license then obviously anything a handyman might do is OK. The other possibility is the exclusion for minor and inconsequential work [§489.103(9)]. Im a Special Magistrate for the Pinellas Count Construction Licensing Board, in which county the limit is lowered to $500.00, and the most frequent difficulty I see with handymen is that they work in areas for which a life-safety type of license is required [e.g. roofing] regardless of dollar amount, or their total price exceeds the dollar limit. Regards, Lan White (727) 797-5599 cid:part1.09030708.03060606@elliott-berger.com AAA 2014 logo print From: clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of James Birr Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 3:42 PM To: clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org Subject: [CLC-Discussion] Licensing question Pardon the interruption, Is there a scope of services that definitively qualifies as handyman services and does not require licensure by the CILB. Thanks in advance. James O. Joby Birr, III, Esq. Board Certified in Construction Law Jimerson & Cobb, P.A. Business Litigation | Construction Litigation | Banking Law | Creditors Rights & AR Collection | Community Associations Telephone: (904) 389-0050 | Facsimile: (904) 212-1269 jbirr@jimersoncobb.com | <http://www.jimersoncobb.com/> JimersonCobb.com Add to Contacts <http://www.jimersoncobb.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/James-O-Birr.vcf> | View Biography <http://www.jimersoncobb.com/attorneys/james-o-birr/>

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Michelle Kane

Tue, Sep 16, 2014 10:05 PM

I'm enjoying the bantor. I served 11 years.

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If only the CLC had an attorney in its ranks that served on the CILB (but I guess that person couldn't comment on hypotheticals). Hum??

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Pardon the interruption,

Is there a scope of services that definitively qualifies as "handyman" services and does not require licensure by the CILB.

Thanks in advance.

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I'm enjoying the bantor. I served 11 years. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 16, 2014, at 4:23 PM, "Arnold Tritt" <arnold.tritt@atritt.com<mailto:arnold.tritt@atritt.com>> wrote: If only the CLC had an attorney in its ranks that served on the CILB (but I guess that person couldn't comment on hypotheticals). Hum?? From: clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org<mailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org> [mailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of James Birr Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 3:42 PM To: clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org<mailto:clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org> Subject: [CLC-Discussion] Licensing question Pardon the interruption, Is there a scope of services that definitively qualifies as "handyman" services and does not require licensure by the CILB. Thanks in advance. <image002.png> James O. "Joby" Birr, III, Esq. Board Certified in Construction Law Jimerson & Cobb, P.A. Business Litigation | Construction Litigation | Banking Law | Creditor's Rights & AR Collection | Community Associations Telephone: (904) 389-0050 | Facsimile: (904) 212-1269 jbirr@jimersoncobb.com<mailto:jbirr@jimersoncobb.com> | JimersonCobb.com<http://www.jimersoncobb.com/> Add to Contacts<http://www.jimersoncobb.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/James-O-Birr.vcf> | View Biography<http://www.jimersoncobb.com/attorneys/james-o-birr/> _______________________________________________ CLC-Discussion mailing list CLC-Discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org<mailto:CLC-Discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org> http://mailman.fsr.com/mailman/listinfo/clc-discussion

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Michelle Kane

Tue, Sep 16, 2014 10:06 PM

Yes Charles, I suppose I would add such disclaimer.

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On Sep 16, 2014, at 4:45 PM, "Charles B. Hernicz, Esq" <CHernicz@Herniczlegal.com mailto:CHernicz@Herniczlegal.com> wrote:

If there were such a person, Arnie, his opinion would be very valuable, but he would likely caveat all opinions with something like "I cannot speak on behalf of the CILB, of course, but. . .."

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15854 Bent Creek Road
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If only the CLC had an attorney in its ranks that served on the CILB (but I guess that person couldn't comment on hypotheticals). Hum??

From: clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org mailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of James Birr
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To: clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org mailto:clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org
Subject: [CLC-Discussion] Licensing question

Pardon the interruption,

Is there a scope of services that definitively qualifies as "handyman" services and does not require licensure by the CILB.

Thanks in advance.

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Board Certified in Construction Law
Jimerson & Cobb, P.A.
Business Litigation | Construction Litigation | Banking Law | Creditor's Rights & AR Collection | Community Associations

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Yes Charles, I suppose I would add such disclaimer. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 16, 2014, at 4:45 PM, "Charles B. Hernicz, Esq" <CHernicz@Herniczlegal.com<mailto:CHernicz@Herniczlegal.com>> wrote: If there were such a person, Arnie, his opinion would be very valuable, but he would likely caveat all opinions with something like "I cannot speak on behalf of the CILB, of course, but. . .." Charles B. Hernicz, Esq. Board Certified in Construction Law by The Florida Bar Hernicz Legal Services, P.L. 15854 Bent Creek Road Wellington, FL 33414 Telephone: (561) 753-7511 Facsimile: (561) 753-7082 Chernicz@HerniczLegal.com From: clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org<mailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org> [mailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Arnold Tritt Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 4:07 PM To: clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org<mailto:clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org> Subject: Re: [CLC-Discussion] Licensing question If only the CLC had an attorney in its ranks that served on the CILB (but I guess that person couldn't comment on hypotheticals). Hum?? From: clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org<mailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org> [mailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of James Birr Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 3:42 PM To: clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org<mailto:clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org> Subject: [CLC-Discussion] Licensing question Pardon the interruption, Is there a scope of services that definitively qualifies as "handyman" services and does not require licensure by the CILB. Thanks in advance. <image003.png> James O. "Joby" Birr, III, Esq. Board Certified in Construction Law Jimerson & Cobb, P.A. Business Litigation | Construction Litigation | Banking Law | Creditor's Rights & AR Collection | Community Associations Telephone: (904) 389-0050 | Facsimile: (904) 212-1269 jbirr@jimersoncobb.com<mailto:jbirr@jimersoncobb.com> | JimersonCobb.com<http://www.jimersoncobb.com/> Add to Contacts<http://www.jimersoncobb.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/James-O-Birr.vcf> | View Biography<http://www.jimersoncobb.com/attorneys/james-o-birr/> _______________________________________________ CLC-Discussion mailing list CLC-Discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org<mailto:CLC-Discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org> http://mailman.fsr.com/mailman/listinfo/clc-discussion