Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] Commercial Job (church) with volunteer labor

RL
Robert Lash
Fri, Aug 19, 2011 7:27 PM

Hey Rob D.

My understanding is that as long as a permit is pulled by the GC and
appropriate trades, and as long as the volunteers are not compensated in
anyway, the volunteers are not required to be licensed. I recently had
the same question asked by one of the Gainesville Rotary clubs. They
wanted to have volunteers work on a project in Gainesville.  I contacted
Jim Patton with DBPR and was informed that no license is required if the
volunteers are not compensated. Hope that helps.

Rob L

From: constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org
[mailto:constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of
Robert E. Doan
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 11:31 AM
To: RPPTL constructionlaw
Subject: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] Commercial Job (church) with volunteer
labor

A church owner wants to use "volunteers" from the congregation to do
much of the labor on a renovation.  A GC will be paid to pull permits
and actually supervise and direct the work (not just pull permits and
disappear.)  GC is concerned about liability for these volunteers if
they are injured on the job and would like to address it as much as
possible contractually and/or with waivers/releases signed by the
volunteers.

Anyone dealt with this scenario before.  If so, please reply directly to
me at:  robert@lawgainesville.com

Robert E. Doan

Board Certified Construction Attorney

Supreme Court Certified Circuit Civil Mediator
Silverman, Vorhis & Doan

311 NE 1st Street
Gainesville, FL 32601
PH: 352-337-8373
Fax: 352-505-6188
Email: robert@lawgainesville.com

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Hey Rob D. My understanding is that as long as a permit is pulled by the GC and appropriate trades, and as long as the volunteers are not compensated in anyway, the volunteers are not required to be licensed. I recently had the same question asked by one of the Gainesville Rotary clubs. They wanted to have volunteers work on a project in Gainesville. I contacted Jim Patton with DBPR and was informed that no license is required if the volunteers are not compensated. Hope that helps. Rob L From: constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Robert E. Doan Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 11:31 AM To: RPPTL constructionlaw Subject: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] Commercial Job (church) with volunteer labor A church owner wants to use "volunteers" from the congregation to do much of the labor on a renovation. A GC will be paid to pull permits and actually supervise and direct the work (not just pull permits and disappear.) GC is concerned about liability for these volunteers if they are injured on the job and would like to address it as much as possible contractually and/or with waivers/releases signed by the volunteers. Anyone dealt with this scenario before. If so, please reply directly to me at: robert@lawgainesville.com Robert E. Doan Board Certified Construction Attorney Supreme Court Certified Circuit Civil Mediator Silverman, Vorhis & Doan 311 NE 1st Street Gainesville, FL 32601 PH: 352-337-8373 Fax: 352-505-6188 Email: robert@lawgainesville.com **This communication is intended for the sole use of the individual to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of the communication is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent for delivering the communication to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication may be strictly prohibited. If you receive this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by telephone call. Thank you.
FD
fred.dudley (at) hklaw.com
Fri, Aug 19, 2011 7:35 PM

"For compensation" is part of the statutory definition of contracting.

Frederick Dudley | Holland & Knight
Board Certified Construction Lawyer
315 South Calhoun Street, Suite 600 | Tallahassee FL 32301

Phone 850.425.5668 | Fax 850.224.8832 | Cell 850.294.3471

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From: Robert Lash [mailto:rob@moodysalzman.com]
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 03:27 PM
To: RPPTL constructionlaw constructionlaw@lists.flabarrpptl.org
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] Commercial Job (church) with volunteer labor

Hey Rob D.
My understanding is that as long as a permit is pulled by the GC and appropriate trades, and as long as the volunteers are not compensated in anyway, the volunteers are not required to be licensed. I recently had the same question asked by one of the Gainesville Rotary clubs. They wanted to have volunteers work on a project in Gainesville.  I contacted Jim Patton with DBPR and was informed that no license is required if the volunteers are not compensated. Hope that helps.
Rob L

From: constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Robert E. Doan
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 11:31 AM
To: RPPTL constructionlaw
Subject: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] Commercial Job (church) with volunteer labor

A church owner wants to use “volunteers� from the congregation to do much of the labor on a renovation.  A GC will be paid to pull permits and actually supervise and direct the work (not just pull permits and disappear.)  GC is concerned about liability for these volunteers if they are injured on the job and would like to address it as much as possible contractually and/or with waivers/releases signed by the volunteers.

Anyone dealt with this scenario before.  If so, please reply directly to me at:  robert@lawgainesville.commailto:robert@lawgainesville.com

Robert E. Doan
Board Certified Construction Attorney
Supreme Court Certified Circuit Civil Mediator
Silverman, Vorhis & Doan
311 NE 1st Street
Gainesville, FL 32601
PH: 352-337-8373
Fax: 352-505-6188
Email: robert@lawgainesville.com
[The Law Office of The Law Office of Silverman, Vorhis & Doan - Family Law]
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"For compensation" is part of the statutory definition of contracting. Frederick Dudley | Holland & Knight Board Certified Construction Lawyer 315 South Calhoun Street, Suite 600 | Tallahassee FL 32301 Phone 850.425.5668 | Fax 850.224.8832 | Cell 850.294.3471 fred.dudley@hklaw.com <mailto:fred.dudley@hklaw.com> | www.hklaw.com <http://www.hklaw.com/> -------------------------- Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld From: Robert Lash [mailto:rob@moodysalzman.com] Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 03:27 PM To: RPPTL constructionlaw <constructionlaw@lists.flabarrpptl.org> Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] Commercial Job (church) with volunteer labor Hey Rob D. My understanding is that as long as a permit is pulled by the GC and appropriate trades, and as long as the volunteers are not compensated in anyway, the volunteers are not required to be licensed. I recently had the same question asked by one of the Gainesville Rotary clubs. They wanted to have volunteers work on a project in Gainesville. I contacted Jim Patton with DBPR and was informed that no license is required if the volunteers are not compensated. Hope that helps. Rob L From: constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Robert E. Doan Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 11:31 AM To: RPPTL constructionlaw Subject: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] Commercial Job (church) with volunteer labor A church owner wants to use “volunteers� from the congregation to do much of the labor on a renovation. A GC will be paid to pull permits and actually supervise and direct the work (not just pull permits and disappear.) GC is concerned about liability for these volunteers if they are injured on the job and would like to address it as much as possible contractually and/or with waivers/releases signed by the volunteers. Anyone dealt with this scenario before. If so, please reply directly to me at: robert@lawgainesville.com<mailto:robert@lawgainesville.com> Robert E. Doan Board Certified Construction Attorney Supreme Court Certified Circuit Civil Mediator Silverman, Vorhis & Doan 311 NE 1st Street Gainesville, FL 32601 PH: 352-337-8373 Fax: 352-505-6188 Email: robert@lawgainesville.com [The Law Office of The Law Office of Silverman, Vorhis & Doan - Family Law] **This communication is intended for the sole use of the individual to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of the communication is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent for delivering the communication to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication may be strictly prohibited. If you receive this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by telephone call. Thank you. ________________________________ ****IRS CIRCULAR 230 DISCLOSURE: TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH REQUIREMENTS IMPOSED BY THE IRS, WE INFORM YOU THAT ANY TAX ADVICE CONTAINED IN THIS COMMUNICATION (INCLUDING ANY ATTACHMENTS) IS NOT INTENDED OR WRITTEN BY HOLLAND & KNIGHT LLP TO BE USED, AND CANNOT BE USED, FOR THE PURPOSE OF (I) AVOIDING TAX-RELATED PENALTIES UNDER THE INTERNAL REVENUE CODE, OR (II) PROMOTING, MARKETING, OR RECOMMENDING TO ANOTHER PARTY ANY TAX-RELATED MATTER HEREIN.**** ________________________________ NOTE: This e-mail is from a law firm, Holland & Knight LLP (�H&K�), and is intended solely for the use of the individual(s) to whom it is addressed. If you believe you received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately, delete the e-mail from your computer and do not copy or disclose it to anyone else. If you are not an existing client of H&K, do not construe anything in this e-mail to make you a client unless it contains a specific statement to that effect and do not disclose anything to H&K in reply that you expect it to hold in confidence. If you properly received this e-mail as a client, co-counsel or retained expert of H&K, you should maintain its contents in confidence in order to preserve the attorney-client or work product privilege that may be available to protect confidentiality.
FB
Fred Barnes
Fri, Aug 19, 2011 7:55 PM

Wow, the symbiotic results of all these legal eagle brains is impressive!

FREDERICK C. BARNES, ESQ.

500 North Maitland Avenue, Suite 305

Maitland, Florida  32751

Telephone:  407-865-9200

Facsimile:  407-865-9209

mailto:www.fcbarneslaw.com www.fcbarneslaw.com

From: constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of fred.dudley@hklaw.com
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:35 PM
To: constructionlaw@lists.flabarrpptl.org
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] Commercial Job (church) with volunteer labor

"For compensation" is part of the statutory definition of contracting.

Frederick Dudley | Holland & Knight
Board Certified Construction Lawyer
315 South Calhoun Street, Suite 600 | Tallahassee FL 32301

Phone 850.425.5668 | Fax 850.224.8832 | Cell 850.294.3471

fred.dudley@hklaw.com mailto:fred.dudley@hklaw.com | www.hklaw.com http://www.hklaw.com/

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From: Robert Lash [mailto:rob@moodysalzman.com]
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 03:27 PM
To: RPPTL constructionlaw constructionlaw@lists.flabarrpptl.org
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] Commercial Job (church) with volunteer labor

Hey Rob D.

My understanding is that as long as a permit is pulled by the GC and appropriate trades, and as long as the volunteers are not compensated in anyway, the volunteers are not required to be licensed. I recently had the same question asked by one of the Gainesville Rotary clubs. They wanted to have volunteers work on a project in Gainesville.  I contacted Jim Patton with DBPR and was informed that no license is required if the volunteers are not compensated. Hope that helps.

Rob L

From: constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Robert E. Doan
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 11:31 AM
To: RPPTL constructionlaw
Subject: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] Commercial Job (church) with volunteer labor

A church owner wants to use “volunteers� from the congregation to do much of the labor on a renovation.  A GC will be paid to pull permits and actually supervise and direct the work (not just pull permits and disappear.)  GC is concerned about liability for these volunteers if they are injured on the job and would like to address it as much as possible contractually and/or with waivers/releases signed by the volunteers.

Anyone dealt with this scenario before.  If so, please reply directly to me at:  robert@lawgainesville.com

Robert E. Doan

Board Certified Construction Attorney

Supreme Court Certified Circuit Civil Mediator
Silverman, Vorhis & Doan

311 NE 1st Street
Gainesville, FL 32601
PH: 352-337-8373
Fax: 352-505-6188
Email: robert@lawgainesville.com

The Law Office of The Law Office of Silverman, Vorhis & Doan - Family Law
**This communication is intended for the sole use of the individual to whom
it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential
and exempt from disclosure under applicable law.  If the reader of the
communication is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent for
delivering the communication to the intended recipient, you are hereby
notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this
communication may be strictly prohibited.  If you receive this communication
in error, please notify the sender immediately by telephone call.  Thank
you.


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Wow, the symbiotic results of all these legal eagle brains is impressive! FREDERICK C. BARNES, ESQ. 500 North Maitland Avenue, Suite 305 Maitland, Florida 32751 Telephone: 407-865-9200 Facsimile: 407-865-9209 <mailto:www.fcbarneslaw.com> www.fcbarneslaw.com From: constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of fred.dudley@hklaw.com Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:35 PM To: constructionlaw@lists.flabarrpptl.org Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] Commercial Job (church) with volunteer labor "For compensation" is part of the statutory definition of contracting. Frederick Dudley | Holland & Knight Board Certified Construction Lawyer 315 South Calhoun Street, Suite 600 | Tallahassee FL 32301 Phone 850.425.5668 | Fax 850.224.8832 | Cell 850.294.3471 fred.dudley@hklaw.com <mailto:fred.dudley@hklaw.com> | www.hklaw.com <http://www.hklaw.com/> -------------------------- Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld From: Robert Lash [mailto:rob@moodysalzman.com] Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 03:27 PM To: RPPTL constructionlaw <constructionlaw@lists.flabarrpptl.org> Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] Commercial Job (church) with volunteer labor Hey Rob D. My understanding is that as long as a permit is pulled by the GC and appropriate trades, and as long as the volunteers are not compensated in anyway, the volunteers are not required to be licensed. I recently had the same question asked by one of the Gainesville Rotary clubs. They wanted to have volunteers work on a project in Gainesville. I contacted Jim Patton with DBPR and was informed that no license is required if the volunteers are not compensated. Hope that helps. Rob L From: constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Robert E. Doan Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 11:31 AM To: RPPTL constructionlaw Subject: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] Commercial Job (church) with volunteer labor A church owner wants to use “volunteers� from the congregation to do much of the labor on a renovation. A GC will be paid to pull permits and actually supervise and direct the work (not just pull permits and disappear.) GC is concerned about liability for these volunteers if they are injured on the job and would like to address it as much as possible contractually and/or with waivers/releases signed by the volunteers. Anyone dealt with this scenario before. If so, please reply directly to me at: robert@lawgainesville.com Robert E. Doan Board Certified Construction Attorney Supreme Court Certified Circuit Civil Mediator Silverman, Vorhis & Doan 311 NE 1st Street Gainesville, FL 32601 PH: 352-337-8373 Fax: 352-505-6188 Email: robert@lawgainesville.com The Law Office of The Law Office of Silverman, Vorhis & Doan - Family Law **This communication is intended for the sole use of the individual to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of the communication is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent for delivering the communication to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication may be strictly prohibited. If you receive this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by telephone call. Thank you. _____ ****IRS CIRCULAR 230 DISCLOSURE: TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH REQUIREMENTS IMPOSED BY THE IRS, WE INFORM YOU THAT ANY TAX ADVICE CONTAINED IN THIS COMMUNICATION (INCLUDING ANY ATTACHMENTS) IS NOT INTENDED OR WRITTEN BY HOLLAND & KNIGHT LLP TO BE USED, AND CANNOT BE USED, FOR THE PURPOSE OF (I) AVOIDING TAX-RELATED PENALTIES UNDER THE INTERNAL REVENUE CODE, OR (II) PROMOTING, MARKETING, OR RECOMMENDING TO ANOTHER PARTY ANY TAX-RELATED MATTER HEREIN.**** _____ NOTE: This e-mail is from a law firm, Holland & Knight LLP (�H&K�), and is intended solely for the use of the individual(s) to whom it is addressed. If you believe you received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately, delete the e-mail from your computer and do not copy or disclose it to anyone else. If you are not an existing client of H&K, do not construe anything in this e-mail to make you a client unless it contains a specific statement to that effect and do not disclose anything to H&K in reply that you expect it to hold in confidence. If you properly received this e-mail as a client, co-counsel or retained expert of H&K, you should maintain its contents in confidence in order to preserve the attorney-client or work product privilege that may be available to protect confidentiality.