713.10 lien for private leasehold on public land

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Rafael Perez
Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:55 PM

Does anyone have any authority for a construction lien on a leasehold where the lessee is a private party but the lessor is a municipality (i.e. on public land)?  The lessee contracted for the improvements which were required by the lease agreement.  The only authority I have found is Section 8.3 of the Fla. Prac. Construction Law Manual which states in the first paragraph, in part: "However, there may be private leasehold interests on governmental property that are lienable."  I have found no other authority.

Rafael A. Perez
Board Certified Construction Attorney
McArdle and Perez, P.A.
806 S. Douglas Road, Suite 625
Coral Gables, Florida 33134
305-442-2214
Fax 305-442-2291
rperez@mcper.commailto:rperez@mcper.com

Does anyone have any authority for a construction lien on a leasehold where the lessee is a private party but the lessor is a municipality (i.e. on public land)? The lessee contracted for the improvements which were required by the lease agreement. The only authority I have found is Section 8.3 of the Fla. Prac. Construction Law Manual which states in the first paragraph, in part: "However, there may be private leasehold interests on governmental property that are lienable." I have found no other authority. Rafael A. Perez Board Certified Construction Attorney McArdle and Perez, P.A. 806 S. Douglas Road, Suite 625 Coral Gables, Florida 33134 305-442-2214 Fax 305-442-2291 rperez@mcper.com<mailto:rperez@mcper.com>
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David Mankuta
Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:02 PM

I think under that circumstance you have an absolute right to lien >> but probably  only the lessee's interest.  However, that could be very good leverage as I imagine that the public entity would not want a stranger to step in and take over  the building and, therefore, they will pressure the lessee to pay up.

David B Mankuta, Esq.
Board Certified in Construction Law
dbm@atkinson-diner.commailto:dbm@atkinson-diner.com
www.atkinson-diner.comhttp://www.atkinson-diner.com/
Atkinson, Diner, Stone, Mankuta & Ploucha, P.A.
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100 S.E. 3rd Avenue
Ft. Lauderdale, FL  33394
Tel:  (954) 925-5501
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Does anyone have any authority for a construction lien on a leasehold where the lessee is a private party but the lessor is a municipality (i.e. on public land)?  The lessee contracted for the improvements which were required by the lease agreement.  The only authority I have found is Section 8.3 of the Fla. Prac. Construction Law Manual which states in the first paragraph, in part: "However, there may be private leasehold interests on governmental property that are lienable."  I have found no other authority.

Rafael A. Perez
Board Certified Construction Attorney
McArdle and Perez, P.A.
806 S. Douglas Road, Suite 625
Coral Gables, Florida 33134
305-442-2214
Fax 305-442-2291
rperez@mcper.commailto:rperez@mcper.com

I think under that circumstance you have an absolute right to lien >> but probably only the lessee's interest. However, that could be very good leverage as I imagine that the public entity would not want a stranger to step in and take over the building and, therefore, they will pressure the lessee to pay up. David B Mankuta, Esq. Board Certified in Construction Law dbm@atkinson-diner.com<mailto:dbm@atkinson-diner.com> www.atkinson-diner.com<http://www.atkinson-diner.com/> Atkinson, Diner, Stone, Mankuta & Ploucha, P.A. One Financial Plaza, Suite 1400 100 S.E. 3rd Avenue Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33394 Tel: (954) 925-5501 Fax: (954) 920-2711 From: constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Rafael Perez Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 2:56 PM To: constructionlaw@lists.flabarrpptl.org Subject: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold on public land Does anyone have any authority for a construction lien on a leasehold where the lessee is a private party but the lessor is a municipality (i.e. on public land)? The lessee contracted for the improvements which were required by the lease agreement. The only authority I have found is Section 8.3 of the Fla. Prac. Construction Law Manual which states in the first paragraph, in part: "However, there may be private leasehold interests on governmental property that are lienable." I have found no other authority. Rafael A. Perez Board Certified Construction Attorney McArdle and Perez, P.A. 806 S. Douglas Road, Suite 625 Coral Gables, Florida 33134 305-442-2214 Fax 305-442-2291 rperez@mcper.com<mailto:rperez@mcper.com>
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Timothy A. Hunt
Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:10 PM

I filed a lien on Tropicana Field. Government fee. Private tenant (baseball team). Client was paid quickly. Your simply filing a lien against the leasehold.

On Feb 2, 2012, at 2:03 PM, "Rafael Perez" <rperez@mcper.commailto:rperez@mcper.com> wrote:

Does anyone have any authority for a construction lien on a leasehold where the lessee is a private party but the lessor is a municipality (i.e. on public land)?  The lessee contracted for the improvements which were required by the lease agreement.  The only authority I have found is Section 8.3 of the Fla. Prac. Construction Law Manual which states in the first paragraph, in part: “However, there may be private leasehold interests on governmental property that are lienable.”  I have found no other authority.

Rafael A. Perez
Board Certified Construction Attorney
McArdle and Perez, P.A.
806 S. Douglas Road, Suite 625
Coral Gables, Florida 33134
305-442-2214
Fax 305-442-2291
rperez@mcper.commailto:rperez@mcper.com


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I filed a lien on Tropicana Field. Government fee. Private tenant (baseball team). Client was paid quickly. Your simply filing a lien against the leasehold. On Feb 2, 2012, at 2:03 PM, "Rafael Perez" <rperez@mcper.com<mailto:rperez@mcper.com>> wrote: Does anyone have any authority for a construction lien on a leasehold where the lessee is a private party but the lessor is a municipality (i.e. on public land)? The lessee contracted for the improvements which were required by the lease agreement. The only authority I have found is Section 8.3 of the Fla. Prac. Construction Law Manual which states in the first paragraph, in part: “However, there may be private leasehold interests on governmental property that are lienable.” I have found no other authority. Rafael A. Perez Board Certified Construction Attorney McArdle and Perez, P.A. 806 S. Douglas Road, Suite 625 Coral Gables, Florida 33134 305-442-2214 Fax 305-442-2291 rperez@mcper.com<mailto:rperez@mcper.com> _______________________________________________ constructionlaw mailing list constructionlaw@lists.flabarrpptl.org<mailto:constructionlaw@lists.flabarrpptl.org> http://mailman.fsr.com/mailman/listinfo/constructionlaw
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fred.dudley (at) hklaw.com
Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:17 PM

Check the statutes; public property cannot be liened.

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Subject: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold on public land

Does anyone have any authority for a construction lien on a leasehold where the lessee is a private party but the lessor is a municipality (i.e. on public land)?  The lessee contracted for the improvements which were required by the lease agreement.  The only authority I have found is Section 8.3 of the Fla. Prac. Construction Law Manual which states in the first paragraph, in part: “However, there may be private leasehold interests on governmental property that are lienable.�  I have found no other authority.

Rafael A. Perez
Board Certified Construction Attorney
McArdle and Perez, P.A.
806 S. Douglas Road, Suite 625
Coral Gables, Florida 33134
305-442-2214
Fax 305-442-2291
rperez@mcper.commailto:rperez@mcper.com


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Check the statutes; public property cannot be liened. Frederick Dudley | Holland & Knight Board Certified Construction Lawyer 315 South Calhoun Street, Suite 600 | Tallahassee FL 32301 Phone 850.425.5668 | Fax 850.224.8832 | Cell 850.294.3471 fred.dudley@hklaw.com <mailto:fred.dudley@hklaw.com> | www.hklaw.com <http://www.hklaw.com/> -------------------------- Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld From: Rafael Perez [mailto:rperez@mcper.com] Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 02:55 PM To: constructionlaw@lists.flabarrpptl.org <constructionlaw@lists.flabarrpptl.org> Subject: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold on public land Does anyone have any authority for a construction lien on a leasehold where the lessee is a private party but the lessor is a municipality (i.e. on public land)? The lessee contracted for the improvements which were required by the lease agreement. The only authority I have found is Section 8.3 of the Fla. Prac. Construction Law Manual which states in the first paragraph, in part: “However, there may be private leasehold interests on governmental property that are lienable.� I have found no other authority. Rafael A. Perez Board Certified Construction Attorney McArdle and Perez, P.A. 806 S. Douglas Road, Suite 625 Coral Gables, Florida 33134 305-442-2214 Fax 305-442-2291 rperez@mcper.com<mailto:rperez@mcper.com> ________________________________ ****IRS CIRCULAR 230 DISCLOSURE: TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH REQUIREMENTS IMPOSED BY THE IRS, WE INFORM YOU THAT ANY TAX ADVICE CONTAINED IN THIS COMMUNICATION (INCLUDING ANY ATTACHMENTS) IS NOT INTENDED OR WRITTEN BY HOLLAND & KNIGHT LLP TO BE USED, AND CANNOT BE USED, FOR THE PURPOSE OF (I) AVOIDING TAX-RELATED PENALTIES UNDER THE INTERNAL REVENUE CODE, OR (II) PROMOTING, MARKETING, OR RECOMMENDING TO ANOTHER PARTY ANY TAX-RELATED MATTER HEREIN.**** ________________________________ NOTE: This e-mail is from a law firm, Holland & Knight LLP (�H&K�), and is intended solely for the use of the individual(s) to whom it is addressed. If you believe you received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately, delete the e-mail from your computer and do not copy or disclose it to anyone else. If you are not an existing client of H&K, do not construe anything in this e-mail to make you a client unless it contains a specific statement to that effect and do not disclose anything to H&K in reply that you expect it to hold in confidence. If you properly received this e-mail as a client, co-counsel or retained expert of H&K, you should maintain its contents in confidence in order to preserve the attorney-client or work product privilege that may be available to protect confidentiality.
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fred.dudley (at) hklaw.com
Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:18 PM

Of course, when the tenant leaves their leasehold is worth.....?

Frederick Dudley | Holland & Knight
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I think under that circumstance you have an absolute right to lien >> but probably  only the lessee’s interest.  However, that could be very good leverage as I imagine that the public entity would not want a stranger to step in and take over  the building and, therefore, they will pressure the lessee to pay up.

David B Mankuta, Esq.
Board Certified in Construction Law
dbm@atkinson-diner.commailto:dbm@atkinson-diner.com
www.atkinson-diner.comhttp://www.atkinson-diner.com/
Atkinson, Diner, Stone, Mankuta & Ploucha, P.A.
One Financial Plaza, Suite 1400
100 S.E. 3rd Avenue
Ft. Lauderdale, FL  33394
Tel:  (954) 925-5501
Fax:  (954) 920-2711

From: constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Rafael Perez
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 2:56 PM
To: constructionlaw@lists.flabarrpptl.org
Subject: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold on public land

Does anyone have any authority for a construction lien on a leasehold where the lessee is a private party but the lessor is a municipality (i.e. on public land)?  The lessee contracted for the improvements which were required by the lease agreement.  The only authority I have found is Section 8.3 of the Fla. Prac. Construction Law Manual which states in the first paragraph, in part: “However, there may be private leasehold interests on governmental property that are lienable.�  I have found no other authority.

Rafael A. Perez
Board Certified Construction Attorney
McArdle and Perez, P.A.
806 S. Douglas Road, Suite 625
Coral Gables, Florida 33134
305-442-2214
Fax 305-442-2291
rperez@mcper.commailto:rperez@mcper.com


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Of course, when the tenant leaves their leasehold is worth.....? Frederick Dudley | Holland & Knight Board Certified Construction Lawyer 315 South Calhoun Street, Suite 600 | Tallahassee FL 32301 Phone 850.425.5668 | Fax 850.224.8832 | Cell 850.294.3471 fred.dudley@hklaw.com <mailto:fred.dudley@hklaw.com> | www.hklaw.com <http://www.hklaw.com/> -------------------------- Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld From: David Mankuta [mailto:dbm@atkinson-diner.com] Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 03:02 PM To: 'RPPTL constructionlaw' <constructionlaw@lists.flabarrpptl.org> Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold on public land I think under that circumstance you have an absolute right to lien >> but probably only the lessee’s interest. However, that could be very good leverage as I imagine that the public entity would not want a stranger to step in and take over the building and, therefore, they will pressure the lessee to pay up. David B Mankuta, Esq. Board Certified in Construction Law dbm@atkinson-diner.com<mailto:dbm@atkinson-diner.com> www.atkinson-diner.com<http://www.atkinson-diner.com/> Atkinson, Diner, Stone, Mankuta & Ploucha, P.A. One Financial Plaza, Suite 1400 100 S.E. 3rd Avenue Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33394 Tel: (954) 925-5501 Fax: (954) 920-2711 From: constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Rafael Perez Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 2:56 PM To: constructionlaw@lists.flabarrpptl.org Subject: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold on public land Does anyone have any authority for a construction lien on a leasehold where the lessee is a private party but the lessor is a municipality (i.e. on public land)? The lessee contracted for the improvements which were required by the lease agreement. The only authority I have found is Section 8.3 of the Fla. Prac. Construction Law Manual which states in the first paragraph, in part: “However, there may be private leasehold interests on governmental property that are lienable.� I have found no other authority. Rafael A. Perez Board Certified Construction Attorney McArdle and Perez, P.A. 806 S. Douglas Road, Suite 625 Coral Gables, Florida 33134 305-442-2214 Fax 305-442-2291 rperez@mcper.com<mailto:rperez@mcper.com> ________________________________ ****IRS CIRCULAR 230 DISCLOSURE: TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH REQUIREMENTS IMPOSED BY THE IRS, WE INFORM YOU THAT ANY TAX ADVICE CONTAINED IN THIS COMMUNICATION (INCLUDING ANY ATTACHMENTS) IS NOT INTENDED OR WRITTEN BY HOLLAND & KNIGHT LLP TO BE USED, AND CANNOT BE USED, FOR THE PURPOSE OF (I) AVOIDING TAX-RELATED PENALTIES UNDER THE INTERNAL REVENUE CODE, OR (II) PROMOTING, MARKETING, OR RECOMMENDING TO ANOTHER PARTY ANY TAX-RELATED MATTER HEREIN.**** ________________________________ NOTE: This e-mail is from a law firm, Holland & Knight LLP (�H&K�), and is intended solely for the use of the individual(s) to whom it is addressed. If you believe you received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately, delete the e-mail from your computer and do not copy or disclose it to anyone else. If you are not an existing client of H&K, do not construe anything in this e-mail to make you a client unless it contains a specific statement to that effect and do not disclose anything to H&K in reply that you expect it to hold in confidence. If you properly received this e-mail as a client, co-counsel or retained expert of H&K, you should maintain its contents in confidence in order to preserve the attorney-client or work product privilege that may be available to protect confidentiality.
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fred.dudley (at) hklaw.com
Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:27 PM

Caution: Slander of title can be expensive.

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I filed a lien on Tropicana Field. Government fee. Private tenant (baseball team). Client was paid quickly. Your simply filing a lien against the leasehold.

On Feb 2, 2012, at 2:03 PM, "Rafael Perez" <rperez@mcper.commailto:rperez@mcper.com> wrote:

Does anyone have any authority for a construction lien on a leasehold where the lessee is a private party but the lessor is a municipality (i.e. on public land)?  The lessee contracted for the improvements which were required by the lease agreement.  The only authority I have found is Section 8.3 of the Fla. Prac. Construction Law Manual which states in the first paragraph, in part: “However, there may be private leasehold interests on governmental property that are lienable.”  I have found no other authority.

Rafael A. Perez
Board Certified Construction Attorney
McArdle and Perez, P.A.
806 S. Douglas Road, Suite 625
Coral Gables, Florida 33134
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Caution: Slander of title can be expensive. Frederick Dudley | Holland & Knight Board Certified Construction Lawyer 315 South Calhoun Street, Suite 600 | Tallahassee FL 32301 Phone 850.425.5668 | Fax 850.224.8832 | Cell 850.294.3471 fred.dudley@hklaw.com <mailto:fred.dudley@hklaw.com> | www.hklaw.com <http://www.hklaw.com/> -------------------------- Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld ----- Original Message ----- From: Timothy A. Hunt [mailto:thunt@hwhlaw.com] Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 03:10 PM To: RPPTL constructionlaw <constructionlaw@lists.flabarrpptl.org> Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold on public land I filed a lien on Tropicana Field. Government fee. Private tenant (baseball team). Client was paid quickly. Your simply filing a lien against the leasehold. On Feb 2, 2012, at 2:03 PM, "Rafael Perez" <rperez@mcper.com<mailto:rperez@mcper.com>> wrote: Does anyone have any authority for a construction lien on a leasehold where the lessee is a private party but the lessor is a municipality (i.e. on public land)? The lessee contracted for the improvements which were required by the lease agreement. The only authority I have found is Section 8.3 of the Fla. Prac. Construction Law Manual which states in the first paragraph, in part: “However, there may be private leasehold interests on governmental property that are lienable.” I have found no other authority. Rafael A. Perez Board Certified Construction Attorney McArdle and Perez, P.A. 806 S. Douglas Road, Suite 625 Coral Gables, Florida 33134 305-442-2214 Fax 305-442-2291 rperez@mcper.com<mailto:rperez@mcper.com> _______________________________________________ constructionlaw mailing list constructionlaw@lists.flabarrpptl.org<mailto:constructionlaw@lists.flabarrpptl.org> http://mailman.fsr.com/mailman/listinfo/constructionlaw _______________________________________________ constructionlaw mailing list constructionlaw@lists.flabarrpptl.org http://mailman.fsr.com/mailman/listinfo/constructionlaw ________________________________ ****IRS CIRCULAR 230 DISCLOSURE: TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH REQUIREMENTS IMPOSED BY THE IRS, WE INFORM YOU THAT ANY TAX ADVICE CONTAINED IN THIS COMMUNICATION (INCLUDING ANY ATTACHMENTS) IS NOT INTENDED OR WRITTEN BY HOLLAND & KNIGHT LLP TO BE USED, AND CANNOT BE USED, FOR THE PURPOSE OF (I) AVOIDING TAX-RELATED PENALTIES UNDER THE INTERNAL REVENUE CODE, OR (II) PROMOTING, MARKETING, OR RECOMMENDING TO ANOTHER PARTY ANY TAX-RELATED MATTER HEREIN.**** ________________________________ NOTE: This e-mail is from a law firm, Holland & Knight LLP (“H&K”), and is intended solely for the use of the individual(s) to whom it is addressed. If you believe you received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately, delete the e-mail from your computer and do not copy or disclose it to anyone else. If you are not an existing client of H&K, do not construe anything in this e-mail to make you a client unless it contains a specific statement to that effect and do not disclose anything to H&K in reply that you expect it to hold in confidence. If you properly received this e-mail as a client, co-counsel or retained expert of H&K, you should maintain its contents in confidence in order to preserve the attorney-client or work product privilege that may be available to protect confidentiality.
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Larry Leiby
Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:44 PM

The answer is in the definitions in 713.01 (and if you are referring to 8:3 of my book, it is set out there).  The statutory reason that you can't lien publicly owned property is because a governmental owner is not within the definition of owner in 713.01.  The definition of real property also excludes governmentally owned property.  This is intended to keep governmentally owned property out of the lien law because a government must usually go through an election to subject public owned property to liens, e.g., financing bond issues.

An owner is also defined as one having an interest in the property and who enters into a contract for the improvement of the real property.  Thus there is no reason that you cannot have a lien on a private leasehold interest that sits on public property.  You want to be careful when you prepare the lien to only seek it against the leasehold.  Also a lien on a leasehold is typically only as valuable as the tenant is collectable.

Go get em.

Larry R. Leiby, Esq.
Malka & Kravitz, P.A.
1300 Sawgrass Corp. Pkwy., Suite 100
Ft. Lauderdale, FL  33323
Phone:  954-514-0984
Fax:      954-514-0985

e-mail:  leiby@mkpalaw.com

Board Certified in Construction Law
Fla. S. Ct. Certified Circuit Court Civil Mediator
Fellow, College of Commercial Arbitrators

From: constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Rafael Perez
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 2:56 PM
To: constructionlaw@lists.flabarrpptl.org
Subject: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold on public land

Does anyone have any authority for a construction lien on a leasehold where the lessee is a private party but the lessor is a municipality (i.e. on public land)?  The lessee contracted for the improvements which were required by the lease agreement.  The only authority I have found is Section 8.3 of the Fla. Prac. Construction Law Manual which states in the first paragraph, in part: "However, there may be private leasehold interests on governmental property that are lienable."  I have found no other authority.

Rafael A. Perez
Board Certified Construction Attorney
McArdle and Perez, P.A.
806 S. Douglas Road, Suite 625
Coral Gables, Florida 33134
305-442-2214
Fax 305-442-2291
rperez@mcper.commailto:rperez@mcper.com

The answer is in the definitions in 713.01 (and if you are referring to 8:3 of my book, it is set out there). The statutory reason that you can't lien publicly owned property is because a governmental owner is not within the definition of owner in 713.01. The definition of real property also excludes governmentally owned property. This is intended to keep governmentally owned property out of the lien law because a government must usually go through an election to subject public owned property to liens, e.g., financing bond issues. An owner is also defined as one having an interest in the property and who enters into a contract for the improvement of the real property. Thus there is no reason that you cannot have a lien on a private leasehold interest that sits on public property. You want to be careful when you prepare the lien to only seek it against the leasehold. Also a lien on a leasehold is typically only as valuable as the tenant is collectable. Go get em. Larry R. Leiby, Esq. Malka & Kravitz, P.A. 1300 Sawgrass Corp. Pkwy., Suite 100 Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33323 Phone: 954-514-0984 Fax: 954-514-0985 e-mail: leiby@mkpalaw.com Board Certified in Construction Law Fla. S. Ct. Certified Circuit Court Civil Mediator Fellow, College of Commercial Arbitrators From: constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Rafael Perez Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 2:56 PM To: constructionlaw@lists.flabarrpptl.org Subject: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold on public land Does anyone have any authority for a construction lien on a leasehold where the lessee is a private party but the lessor is a municipality (i.e. on public land)? The lessee contracted for the improvements which were required by the lease agreement. The only authority I have found is Section 8.3 of the Fla. Prac. Construction Law Manual which states in the first paragraph, in part: "However, there may be private leasehold interests on governmental property that are lienable." I have found no other authority. Rafael A. Perez Board Certified Construction Attorney McArdle and Perez, P.A. 806 S. Douglas Road, Suite 625 Coral Gables, Florida 33134 305-442-2214 Fax 305-442-2291 rperez@mcper.com<mailto:rperez@mcper.com>
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Tracye
Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:07 PM

Thank you Larry. I think we should get CLE credit for reading these
emails!

Tracye K. Solove, Attorney at Law

Certified Civil Circuit Mediator

Tracye@solovelawfirm.com

Kendallwood Office Park One

12002 Southwest 128th Court

Suite 201

Miami, Florida  33186

Phone: (305) 612-0800

Facsimile: (305) 612-0801

http://www.solovelawfirm.com http://www.solovelawfirm.com/

Providing Statewide Legal Services in the areas of Commercial
Collections and Recovery, Creditors' Rights, Commercial Landlord/Tenant
and Real Estate Foreclosures

This transmission is intended to be delivered only to the named
addressee(s) and may contain information which is confidential,
proprietary, attorney work-product or attorney-client privileged. If
this notification is received by anyone other than the intended
recipient(s), the recipient(s) should immediately notify the undersigned
by E-MAIL and by telephone and obtain instructions as to the disposal of
the transmitted material. In no event shall this material be read, used,
copied, reproduced, stored or retained by anyone other than the intended
recipient(s) except with the express written consent of the sender.
Thank you.

From: constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org
[mailto:constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of
Larry Leiby
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 3:45 PM
To: RPPTL constructionlaw
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold
on public land

The answer is in the definitions in 713.01 (and if you are referring to
8:3 of my book, it is set out there).  The statutory reason that you
can't lien publicly owned property is because a governmental owner is
not within the definition of owner in 713.01.  The definition of real
property also excludes governmentally owned property.  This is intended
to keep governmentally owned property out of the lien law because a
government must usually go through an election to subject public owned
property to liens, e.g., financing bond issues.

An owner is also defined as one having an interest in the property and
who enters into a contract for the improvement of the real property.
Thus there is no reason that you cannot have a lien on a private
leasehold interest that sits on public property.  You want to be careful
when you prepare the lien to only seek it against the leasehold.  Also a
lien on a leasehold is typically only as valuable as the tenant is
collectable.

Go get em.

Larry R. Leiby, Esq.

Malka & Kravitz, P.A.

1300 Sawgrass Corp. Pkwy., Suite 100

Ft. Lauderdale, FL  33323

Phone:  954-514-0984

Fax:      954-514-0985

e-mail:  leiby@mkpalaw.com

Board Certified in Construction Law

Fla. S. Ct. Certified Circuit Court Civil Mediator

Fellow, College of Commercial Arbitrators

From: constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org
[mailto:constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of
Rafael Perez
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 2:56 PM
To: constructionlaw@lists.flabarrpptl.org
Subject: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold on
public land

Does anyone have any authority for a construction lien on a leasehold
where the lessee is a private party but the lessor is a municipality
(i.e. on public land)?  The lessee contracted for the improvements which
were required by the lease agreement.  The only authority I have found
is Section 8.3 of the Fla. Prac. Construction Law Manual which states in
the first paragraph, in part: "However, there may be private leasehold
interests on governmental property that are lienable."  I have found no
other authority.

Rafael A. Perez

Board Certified Construction Attorney

McArdle and Perez, P.A.

806 S. Douglas Road, Suite 625

Coral Gables, Florida 33134

305-442-2214

Fax 305-442-2291

rperez@mcper.com

Thank you Larry. I think we should get CLE credit for reading these emails! Tracye K. Solove, Attorney at Law Certified Civil Circuit Mediator Tracye@solovelawfirm.com Kendallwood Office Park One 12002 Southwest 128th Court Suite 201 Miami, Florida 33186 Phone: (305) 612-0800 Facsimile: (305) 612-0801 http://www.solovelawfirm.com <http://www.solovelawfirm.com/> Providing Statewide Legal Services in the areas of Commercial Collections and Recovery, Creditors' Rights, Commercial Landlord/Tenant and Real Estate Foreclosures This transmission is intended to be delivered only to the named addressee(s) and may contain information which is confidential, proprietary, attorney work-product or attorney-client privileged. If this notification is received by anyone other than the intended recipient(s), the recipient(s) should immediately notify the undersigned by E-MAIL and by telephone and obtain instructions as to the disposal of the transmitted material. In no event shall this material be read, used, copied, reproduced, stored or retained by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) except with the express written consent of the sender. Thank you. From: constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Larry Leiby Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 3:45 PM To: RPPTL constructionlaw Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold on public land The answer is in the definitions in 713.01 (and if you are referring to 8:3 of my book, it is set out there). The statutory reason that you can't lien publicly owned property is because a governmental owner is not within the definition of owner in 713.01. The definition of real property also excludes governmentally owned property. This is intended to keep governmentally owned property out of the lien law because a government must usually go through an election to subject public owned property to liens, e.g., financing bond issues. An owner is also defined as one having an interest in the property and who enters into a contract for the improvement of the real property. Thus there is no reason that you cannot have a lien on a private leasehold interest that sits on public property. You want to be careful when you prepare the lien to only seek it against the leasehold. Also a lien on a leasehold is typically only as valuable as the tenant is collectable. Go get em. Larry R. Leiby, Esq. Malka & Kravitz, P.A. 1300 Sawgrass Corp. Pkwy., Suite 100 Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33323 Phone: 954-514-0984 Fax: 954-514-0985 e-mail: leiby@mkpalaw.com Board Certified in Construction Law Fla. S. Ct. Certified Circuit Court Civil Mediator Fellow, College of Commercial Arbitrators From: constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Rafael Perez Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 2:56 PM To: constructionlaw@lists.flabarrpptl.org Subject: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold on public land Does anyone have any authority for a construction lien on a leasehold where the lessee is a private party but the lessor is a municipality (i.e. on public land)? The lessee contracted for the improvements which were required by the lease agreement. The only authority I have found is Section 8.3 of the Fla. Prac. Construction Law Manual which states in the first paragraph, in part: "However, there may be private leasehold interests on governmental property that are lienable." I have found no other authority. Rafael A. Perez Board Certified Construction Attorney McArdle and Perez, P.A. 806 S. Douglas Road, Suite 625 Coral Gables, Florida 33134 305-442-2214 Fax 305-442-2291 rperez@mcper.com
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Bryan L. Capps
Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:33 PM

Steve Pickert and I had such a case many years ago, wherein the City of Coral Springs entered into a renewable "Concession Agreement" (i.e., a lease) for a private party to build an ice-skating rink on City property.  Under the Concession Agreement, the concessionaire/lessee actually owned the improvements subject to the City's reversionary interest at the conclusion of the lease.  The concessionaire/lessee didn't pay the contractor and, in fact, sold its interest during construction.  The contractor, our client, recorded a lien against the property, and both the concessionaire/lessee and the purchaser said the property was not lienable.  We moved for and were granted summary judgment in our favor on that issue.  Attached is the motion/brief, which is a matter of public record and may be helpful.  Presumably much of the law has changed/evolved over the past 14 or so years.

Bryan Capps


From: constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org on behalf of Larry Leiby
Sent: Thu 2/2/2012 3:44 PM
To: RPPTL constructionlaw
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold onpublic land

The answer is in the definitions in 713.01 (and if you are referring to 8:3 of my book, it is set out there).  The statutory reason that you can't lien publicly owned property is because a governmental owner is not within the definition of owner in 713.01.  The definition of real property also excludes governmentally owned property.  This is intended to keep governmentally owned property out of the lien law because a government must usually go through an election to subject public owned property to liens, e.g., financing bond issues.

An owner is also defined as one having an interest in the property and who enters into a contract for the improvement of the real property.  Thus there is no reason that you cannot have a lien on a private leasehold interest that sits on public property.  You want to be careful when you prepare the lien to only seek it against the leasehold.  Also a lien on a leasehold is typically only as valuable as the tenant is collectable.

Go get em.

Larry R. Leiby, Esq.

Malka & Kravitz, P.A.

1300 Sawgrass Corp. Pkwy., Suite 100

Ft. Lauderdale, FL  33323

Phone:  954-514-0984

Fax:      954-514-0985

e-mail:  leiby@mkpalaw.com

Board Certified in Construction Law

Fla. S. Ct. Certified Circuit Court Civil Mediator

Fellow, College of Commercial Arbitrators

From: constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Rafael Perez
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 2:56 PM
To: constructionlaw@lists.flabarrpptl.org
Subject: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold on public land

Does anyone have any authority for a construction lien on a leasehold where the lessee is a private party but the lessor is a municipality (i.e. on public land)?  The lessee contracted for the improvements which were required by the lease agreement.  The only authority I have found is Section 8.3 of the Fla. Prac. Construction Law Manual which states in the first paragraph, in part: "However, there may be private leasehold interests on governmental property that are lienable."  I have found no other authority.

Rafael A. Perez

Board Certified Construction Attorney

McArdle and Perez, P.A.

806 S. Douglas Road, Suite 625

Coral Gables, Florida 33134

305-442-2214

Fax 305-442-2291

rperez@mcper.com

Steve Pickert and I had such a case many years ago, wherein the City of Coral Springs entered into a renewable "Concession Agreement" (i.e., a lease) for a private party to build an ice-skating rink on City property. Under the Concession Agreement, the concessionaire/lessee actually owned the improvements subject to the City's reversionary interest at the conclusion of the lease. The concessionaire/lessee didn't pay the contractor and, in fact, sold its interest during construction. The contractor, our client, recorded a lien against the property, and both the concessionaire/lessee and the purchaser said the property was not lienable. We moved for and were granted summary judgment in our favor on that issue. Attached is the motion/brief, which is a matter of public record and may be helpful. Presumably much of the law has changed/evolved over the past 14 or so years. Bryan Capps ________________________________ From: constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org on behalf of Larry Leiby Sent: Thu 2/2/2012 3:44 PM To: RPPTL constructionlaw Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold onpublic land The answer is in the definitions in 713.01 (and if you are referring to 8:3 of my book, it is set out there). The statutory reason that you can't lien publicly owned property is because a governmental owner is not within the definition of owner in 713.01. The definition of real property also excludes governmentally owned property. This is intended to keep governmentally owned property out of the lien law because a government must usually go through an election to subject public owned property to liens, e.g., financing bond issues. An owner is also defined as one having an interest in the property and who enters into a contract for the improvement of the real property. Thus there is no reason that you cannot have a lien on a private leasehold interest that sits on public property. You want to be careful when you prepare the lien to only seek it against the leasehold. Also a lien on a leasehold is typically only as valuable as the tenant is collectable. Go get em. Larry R. Leiby, Esq. Malka & Kravitz, P.A. 1300 Sawgrass Corp. Pkwy., Suite 100 Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33323 Phone: 954-514-0984 Fax: 954-514-0985 e-mail: leiby@mkpalaw.com Board Certified in Construction Law Fla. S. Ct. Certified Circuit Court Civil Mediator Fellow, College of Commercial Arbitrators From: constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Rafael Perez Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 2:56 PM To: constructionlaw@lists.flabarrpptl.org Subject: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold on public land Does anyone have any authority for a construction lien on a leasehold where the lessee is a private party but the lessor is a municipality (i.e. on public land)? The lessee contracted for the improvements which were required by the lease agreement. The only authority I have found is Section 8.3 of the Fla. Prac. Construction Law Manual which states in the first paragraph, in part: "However, there may be private leasehold interests on governmental property that are lienable." I have found no other authority. Rafael A. Perez Board Certified Construction Attorney McArdle and Perez, P.A. 806 S. Douglas Road, Suite 625 Coral Gables, Florida 33134 305-442-2214 Fax 305-442-2291 rperez@mcper.com
HC
Hoke, Christine M.
Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:43 PM

Hi Bryan - Do you have the liberty to provide me with a copy of that Order showing that the motion was granted?  It helps in our arguments to the Court.

From: constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Bryan L. Capps
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 4:34 PM
To: RPPTL constructionlaw
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold onpublic land

Steve Pickert and I had such a case many years ago, wherein the City of Coral Springs entered into a renewable "Concession Agreement" (i.e., a lease) for a private party to build an ice-skating rink on City property.  Under the Concession Agreement, the concessionaire/lessee actually owned the improvements subject to the City's reversionary interest at the conclusion of the lease.  The concessionaire/lessee didn't pay the contractor and, in fact, sold its interest during construction.  The contractor, our client, recorded a lien against the property, and both the concessionaire/lessee and the purchaser said the property was not lienable.  We moved for and were granted summary judgment in our favor on that issue.  Attached is the motion/brief, which is a matter of public record and may be helpful.  Presumably much of the law has changed/evolved over the past 14 or so years.

Bryan Capps


From: constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org on behalf of Larry Leiby
Sent: Thu 2/2/2012 3:44 PM
To: RPPTL constructionlaw
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold onpublic land
The answer is in the definitions in 713.01 (and if you are referring to 8:3 of my book, it is set out there).  The statutory reason that you can't lien publicly owned property is because a governmental owner is not within the definition of owner in 713.01.  The definition of real property also excludes governmentally owned property.  This is intended to keep governmentally owned property out of the lien law because a government must usually go through an election to subject public owned property to liens, e.g., financing bond issues.

An owner is also defined as one having an interest in the property and who enters into a contract for the improvement of the real property.  Thus there is no reason that you cannot have a lien on a private leasehold interest that sits on public property.  You want to be careful when you prepare the lien to only seek it against the leasehold.  Also a lien on a leasehold is typically only as valuable as the tenant is collectable.

Go get em.

Larry R. Leiby, Esq.
Malka & Kravitz, P.A.
1300 Sawgrass Corp. Pkwy., Suite 100
Ft. Lauderdale, FL  33323
Phone:  954-514-0984
Fax:      954-514-0985

e-mail:  leiby@mkpalaw.com

Board Certified in Construction Law
Fla. S. Ct. Certified Circuit Court Civil Mediator
Fellow, College of Commercial Arbitrators

From: constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Rafael Perez
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 2:56 PM
To: constructionlaw@lists.flabarrpptl.org
Subject: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold on public land

Does anyone have any authority for a construction lien on a leasehold where the lessee is a private party but the lessor is a municipality (i.e. on public land)?  The lessee contracted for the improvements which were required by the lease agreement.  The only authority I have found is Section 8.3 of the Fla. Prac. Construction Law Manual which states in the first paragraph, in part: "However, there may be private leasehold interests on governmental property that are lienable."  I have found no other authority.

Rafael A. Perez
Board Certified Construction Attorney
McArdle and Perez, P.A.
806 S. Douglas Road, Suite 625
Coral Gables, Florida 33134
305-442-2214
Fax 305-442-2291
rperez@mcper.commailto:rperez@mcper.com

Hi Bryan - Do you have the liberty to provide me with a copy of that Order showing that the motion was granted? It helps in our arguments to the Court. From: constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Bryan L. Capps Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 4:34 PM To: RPPTL constructionlaw Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold onpublic land Steve Pickert and I had such a case many years ago, wherein the City of Coral Springs entered into a renewable "Concession Agreement" (i.e., a lease) for a private party to build an ice-skating rink on City property. Under the Concession Agreement, the concessionaire/lessee actually owned the improvements subject to the City's reversionary interest at the conclusion of the lease. The concessionaire/lessee didn't pay the contractor and, in fact, sold its interest during construction. The contractor, our client, recorded a lien against the property, and both the concessionaire/lessee and the purchaser said the property was not lienable. We moved for and were granted summary judgment in our favor on that issue. Attached is the motion/brief, which is a matter of public record and may be helpful. Presumably much of the law has changed/evolved over the past 14 or so years. Bryan Capps ________________________________ From: constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org on behalf of Larry Leiby Sent: Thu 2/2/2012 3:44 PM To: RPPTL constructionlaw Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold onpublic land The answer is in the definitions in 713.01 (and if you are referring to 8:3 of my book, it is set out there). The statutory reason that you can't lien publicly owned property is because a governmental owner is not within the definition of owner in 713.01. The definition of real property also excludes governmentally owned property. This is intended to keep governmentally owned property out of the lien law because a government must usually go through an election to subject public owned property to liens, e.g., financing bond issues. An owner is also defined as one having an interest in the property and who enters into a contract for the improvement of the real property. Thus there is no reason that you cannot have a lien on a private leasehold interest that sits on public property. You want to be careful when you prepare the lien to only seek it against the leasehold. Also a lien on a leasehold is typically only as valuable as the tenant is collectable. Go get em. Larry R. Leiby, Esq. Malka & Kravitz, P.A. 1300 Sawgrass Corp. Pkwy., Suite 100 Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33323 Phone: 954-514-0984 Fax: 954-514-0985 e-mail: leiby@mkpalaw.com Board Certified in Construction Law Fla. S. Ct. Certified Circuit Court Civil Mediator Fellow, College of Commercial Arbitrators From: constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Rafael Perez Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 2:56 PM To: constructionlaw@lists.flabarrpptl.org Subject: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold on public land Does anyone have any authority for a construction lien on a leasehold where the lessee is a private party but the lessor is a municipality (i.e. on public land)? The lessee contracted for the improvements which were required by the lease agreement. The only authority I have found is Section 8.3 of the Fla. Prac. Construction Law Manual which states in the first paragraph, in part: "However, there may be private leasehold interests on governmental property that are lienable." I have found no other authority. Rafael A. Perez Board Certified Construction Attorney McArdle and Perez, P.A. 806 S. Douglas Road, Suite 625 Coral Gables, Florida 33134 305-442-2214 Fax 305-442-2291 rperez@mcper.com<mailto:rperez@mcper.com>