Texas Collection Agencies
Good morning all. I am writing about an issue that I am seeing with increasing frequency. The purpose of this email is to (i) alert the community of this practice, (ii) learn if others are hearing the same thing from their clients and (iii) see if folks smarter than me have any ideas how to deal with, or ideally, stop them.
Many of our clients that record liens are receiving unsolicited calls from collection agencies out of Texas, the two most common we are seeing are Tucker Albin and Assoc. (http://tuckeralbin.net/) and Milton Myers and Assoc. (http://www.mmatx.net/). Obviously, they are getting the clients' information by pulling the liens from the public records.
The problem is that they are making blatantly false statements such as they are working with others on the project and can guaranty payment if the client signs up, or they are representing several other lienors on the same project that are about the get paid and if the client signs up, he can get them paid now. The reason I know these statements are false is because in the last two occasions that my clients received these calls, they were the only lienors on the projects and on both, I was already in contact with counsel for both the contractor and owner negotiating settlements.
I look forward to hearing from the group.
Regards,
Alex Barthet
Board Certified in Construction Law
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I have heard similar stories. Milton Myers went away when I returned the call.
David C. Willis
Board Certified in Construction Law and Business Litigation
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From: clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Alex Barthet
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 7:32 AM
To: clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org
Subject: [CLC-Discussion] Texas Collection Agencies
Good morning all. I am writing about an issue that I am seeing with increasing frequency. The purpose of this email is to (i) alert the community of this practice, (ii) learn if others are hearing the same thing from their clients and (iii) see if folks smarter than me have any ideas how to deal with, or ideally, stop them.
Many of our clients that record liens are receiving unsolicited calls from collection agencies out of Texas, the two most common we are seeing are Tucker Albin and Assoc. (http://tuckeralbin.net/http://tuckeralbin.net/) and Milton Myers and Assoc. (http://www.mmatx.net/http://www.mmatx.net/). Obviously, they are getting the clients’ information by pulling the liens from the public records.
The problem is that they are making blatantly false statements such as they are working with others on the project and can guaranty payment if the client signs up, or they are representing several other lienors on the same project that are about the get paid and if the client signs up, he can get them paid now. The reason I know these statements are false is because in the last two occasions that my clients received these calls, they were the only lienors on the projects and on both, I was already in contact with counsel for both the contractor and owner negotiating settlements.
I look forward to hearing from the group.
Regards,
Alex Barthet
Board Certified in Construction Law
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The Barthet Firm
200 S. Biscayne Blvd., Suite 1800
Miami, Florida 33131
305-347-5295
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David - I have tried to call on numerous occasions after they call my clients and they never call me back. Once they know a lawyer is involved, they seem to duck back into the shadows.
Regards,
Alex Barthet
Board Certified in Construction Law
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From: Willis, David [mailto:dwillis@rumberger.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 8:36 AM
To: Alex Barthet Alex@barthet.com; clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org
Subject: RE: Texas Collection Agencies
I have heard similar stories. Milton Myers went away when I returned the call.
David C. Willis
Board Certified in Construction Law and Business Litigation
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From: clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Alex Barthet
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 7:32 AM
To: clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org
Subject: [CLC-Discussion] Texas Collection Agencies
Good morning all. I am writing about an issue that I am seeing with increasing frequency. The purpose of this email is to (i) alert the community of this practice, (ii) learn if others are hearing the same thing from their clients and (iii) see if folks smarter than me have any ideas how to deal with, or ideally, stop them.
Many of our clients that record liens are receiving unsolicited calls from collection agencies out of Texas, the two most common we are seeing are Tucker Albin and Assoc. (http://tuckeralbin.net/) and Milton Myers and Assoc. (http://www.mmatx.net/). Obviously, they are getting the clients’ information by pulling the liens from the public records.
The problem is that they are making blatantly false statements such as they are working with others on the project and can guaranty payment if the client signs up, or they are representing several other lienors on the same project that are about the get paid and if the client signs up, he can get them paid now. The reason I know these statements are false is because in the last two occasions that my clients received these calls, they were the only lienors on the projects and on both, I was already in contact with counsel for both the contractor and owner negotiating settlements.
I look forward to hearing from the group.
Regards,
Alex Barthet
Board Certified in Construction Law
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200 S. Biscayne Blvd., Suite 1800
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305-347-5295
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Alex,
While I have not confronted the same issue as of yet with my clients, because they are calling from Texas to companies in Florida, you may be looking at something that is more widespread than just Florida, and at conduct that would violate Federal law. Perhaps inquiring of the U.S. Attorney’s office, or the U.S. AG’s office. If the goal is to go beyond simply having them turn away on a case-by-case basis when a lawyer gets involved, they may have information about it that would prove useful, and they would certainly have the means to address a problem of this nature on a more widespread scale were they to get involved.
Andrew Feldman
From: clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Alex Barthet
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 8:43 AM
To: Willis, David dwillis@rumberger.com; clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org
Subject: Re: [CLC-Discussion] Texas Collection Agencies
David - I have tried to call on numerous occasions after they call my clients and they never call me back. Once they know a lawyer is involved, they seem to duck back into the shadows.
Regards,
Alex Barthet
Board Certified in Construction Law
TheLienZone Construction Law Bloghttp://thelienzone.com/
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From: Willis, David [mailto:dwillis@rumberger.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 8:36 AM
To: Alex Barthet <Alex@barthet.commailto:Alex@barthet.com>; clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.orgmailto:clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org
Subject: RE: Texas Collection Agencies
I have heard similar stories. Milton Myers went away when I returned the call.
David C. Willis
Board Certified in Construction Law and Business Litigation
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Direct: 407.839.2186
Main: 407.872.7300
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From: clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.orgmailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Alex Barthet
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 7:32 AM
To: clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.orgmailto:clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org
Subject: [CLC-Discussion] Texas Collection Agencies
Good morning all. I am writing about an issue that I am seeing with increasing frequency. The purpose of this email is to (i) alert the community of this practice, (ii) learn if others are hearing the same thing from their clients and (iii) see if folks smarter than me have any ideas how to deal with, or ideally, stop them.
Many of our clients that record liens are receiving unsolicited calls from collection agencies out of Texas, the two most common we are seeing are Tucker Albin and Assoc. (http://tuckeralbin.net/) and Milton Myers and Assoc. (http://www.mmatx.net/). Obviously, they are getting the clients’ information by pulling the liens from the public records.
The problem is that they are making blatantly false statements such as they are working with others on the project and can guaranty payment if the client signs up, or they are representing several other lienors on the same project that are about the get paid and if the client signs up, he can get them paid now. The reason I know these statements are false is because in the last two occasions that my clients received these calls, they were the only lienors on the projects and on both, I was already in contact with counsel for both the contractor and owner negotiating settlements.
I look forward to hearing from the group.
Regards,
Alex Barthet
Board Certified in Construction Law
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MUCH TO DO ABOUT NOTHING. Grade A business / construction clients don’t forsake their relationship with their legal counsel and engage an out-of-state collection agency to collect on a Claim of Lien based on a phone solicitation any more than Grade A business / construction clients engage an attorney in response to a radio spot. The Texas boys have been at it for years and your Grade A clients will always call you when they are contacted by such folks. If your client was ever to be duped by such tactics it was not Grade A and should be dropped and referred to your competition. Just my thoughts. Arnie.
From: clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Alex Barthet
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 8:43 AM
To: Willis, David dwillis@rumberger.com; clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org
Subject: Re: [CLC-Discussion] Texas Collection Agencies
David - I have tried to call on numerous occasions after they call my clients and they never call me back. Once they know a lawyer is involved, they seem to duck back into the shadows.
Regards,
Alex Barthet
Board Certified in Construction Law
TheLienZone Construction Law Bloghttp://thelienzone.com/
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The Barthet Firm
200 S. Biscayne Blvd., Suite 1800
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305-347-5295
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From: Willis, David [mailto:dwillis@rumberger.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 8:36 AM
To: Alex Barthet <Alex@barthet.commailto:Alex@barthet.com>; clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.orgmailto:clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org
Subject: RE: Texas Collection Agencies
I have heard similar stories. Milton Myers went away when I returned the call.
David C. Willis
Board Certified in Construction Law and Business Litigation
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Main: 407.872.7300
Cell: 407.497.9174
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From: clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.orgmailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Alex Barthet
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 7:32 AM
To: clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.orgmailto:clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org
Subject: [CLC-Discussion] Texas Collection Agencies
Good morning all. I am writing about an issue that I am seeing with increasing frequency. The purpose of this email is to (i) alert the community of this practice, (ii) learn if others are hearing the same thing from their clients and (iii) see if folks smarter than me have any ideas how to deal with, or ideally, stop them.
Many of our clients that record liens are receiving unsolicited calls from collection agencies out of Texas, the two most common we are seeing are Tucker Albin and Assoc. (http://tuckeralbin.net/) and Milton Myers and Assoc. (http://www.mmatx.net/). Obviously, they are getting the clients’ information by pulling the liens from the public records.
The problem is that they are making blatantly false statements such as they are working with others on the project and can guaranty payment if the client signs up, or they are representing several other lienors on the same project that are about the get paid and if the client signs up, he can get them paid now. The reason I know these statements are false is because in the last two occasions that my clients received these calls, they were the only lienors on the projects and on both, I was already in contact with counsel for both the contractor and owner negotiating settlements.
I look forward to hearing from the group.
Regards,
Alex Barthet
Board Certified in Construction Law
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Arnie – I can’t argue with your logic about Grade A clients. Grade B clients help pay the bills and may be susceptible. Grade C clients, good riddance.
That said, as officers of the court knowing that they are fraudulently inducing those in the construction industry to hire them with false promises, if there is something we can do, we probably should.
Regards,
Alex Barthet
Board Certified in Construction Law
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From: Arnold Tritt [mailto:arnold.tritt@atritt.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 9:05 AM
To: Alex Barthet Alex@barthet.com; Willis, David dwillis@rumberger.com; clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org
Subject: RE: Texas Collection Agencies
MUCH TO DO ABOUT NOTHING. Grade A business / construction clients don’t forsake their relationship with their legal counsel and engage an out-of-state collection agency to collect on a Claim of Lien based on a phone solicitation any more than Grade A business / construction clients engage an attorney in response to a radio spot. The Texas boys have been at it for years and your Grade A clients will always call you when they are contacted by such folks. If your client was ever to be duped by such tactics it was not Grade A and should be dropped and referred to your competition. Just my thoughts. Arnie.
From: clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.orgmailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Alex Barthet
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 8:43 AM
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Subject: Re: [CLC-Discussion] Texas Collection Agencies
David - I have tried to call on numerous occasions after they call my clients and they never call me back. Once they know a lawyer is involved, they seem to duck back into the shadows.
Regards,
Alex Barthet
Board Certified in Construction Law
TheLienZone Construction Law Bloghttp://thelienzone.com/
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The Barthet Firm
200 S. Biscayne Blvd., Suite 1800
Miami, Florida 33131
305-347-5295
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From: Willis, David [mailto:dwillis@rumberger.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 8:36 AM
To: Alex Barthet <Alex@barthet.commailto:Alex@barthet.com>; clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.orgmailto:clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org
Subject: RE: Texas Collection Agencies
I have heard similar stories. Milton Myers went away when I returned the call.
David C. Willis
Board Certified in Construction Law and Business Litigation
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Main: 407.872.7300
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From: clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.orgmailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Alex Barthet
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 7:32 AM
To: clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.orgmailto:clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org
Subject: [CLC-Discussion] Texas Collection Agencies
Good morning all. I am writing about an issue that I am seeing with increasing frequency. The purpose of this email is to (i) alert the community of this practice, (ii) learn if others are hearing the same thing from their clients and (iii) see if folks smarter than me have any ideas how to deal with, or ideally, stop them.
Many of our clients that record liens are receiving unsolicited calls from collection agencies out of Texas, the two most common we are seeing are Tucker Albin and Assoc. (http://tuckeralbin.net/) and Milton Myers and Assoc. (http://www.mmatx.net/). Obviously, they are getting the clients’ information by pulling the liens from the public records.
The problem is that they are making blatantly false statements such as they are working with others on the project and can guaranty payment if the client signs up, or they are representing several other lienors on the same project that are about the get paid and if the client signs up, he can get them paid now. The reason I know these statements are false is because in the last two occasions that my clients received these calls, they were the only lienors on the projects and on both, I was already in contact with counsel for both the contractor and owner negotiating settlements.
I look forward to hearing from the group.
Regards,
Alex Barthet
Board Certified in Construction Law
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Committee Members,
While the Texas collection agencies issue is interesting, a more important and pressing concern which we, as a committee, should be addressing is a matter to be lien law matter to be considered by the RPPTL Executive Council at the meetings this week in Palm Beach.
Although not on our committee’s agenda for our meeting, it is my understanding the Executive Council may be voting on (and likely approving for recommendation to The Florida Bar) support for revisions to the Construction Lien Law involving shortening the period and procedures in filing a Notice of Termination of a Notice of Commencement and proceeding with recommencement (Start/Stop Statute). Many of us aware of this proposed legislation believe it will adversely affect our client construction lien rights and recoveries. Accordingly, it should be a matter considered and voted upon by our Committee; however, I do not believe we (the CLC) have addressed the proposed legislation and it is not designated for discussion on our Committee’s Agenda for tomorrow’s meeting, but should be.
Regards,
Robert B. Worman
Worman & Sheffler, P.A.
2707 West Fairbanks Avenue
Suite 200
Winter Park, FL 32789
407 843-5353
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Subject: Re: [CLC-Discussion] Texas Collection Agencies
I have heard similar stories. Milton Myers went away when I returned the call.
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Subject: [CLC-Discussion] Texas Collection Agencies
Good morning all. I am writing about an issue that I am seeing with increasing frequency. The purpose of this email is to (i) alert the community of this practice, (ii) learn if others are hearing the same thing from their clients and (iii) see if folks smarter than me have any ideas how to deal with, or ideally, stop them.
Many of our clients that record liens are receiving unsolicited calls from collection agencies out of Texas, the two most common we are seeing are Tucker Albin and Assoc. (http://tuckeralbin.net/) and Milton Myers and Assoc. (http://www.mmatx.net/). Obviously, they are getting the clients’ information by pulling the liens from the public records.
The problem is that they are making blatantly false statements such as they are working with others on the project and can guaranty payment if the client signs up, or they are representing several other lienors on the same project that are about the get paid and if the client signs up, he can get them paid now. The reason I know these statements are false is because in the last two occasions that my clients received these calls, they were the only lienors on the projects and on both, I was already in contact with counsel for both the contractor and owner negotiating settlements.
I look forward to hearing from the group.
Regards,
Alex Barthet
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Perhaps a letter to the Florida Attorney General’s office to see if they are interested in looking into the matter?
It seems to me that if you can show they are using false and misleading information, the Attorney General may be interested…
Michael J Kurzman, Esq.
Florida Bar Certified In Construction Law
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Subject: Re: [CLC-Discussion] Texas Collection Agencies
Arnie – I can’t argue with your logic about Grade A clients. Grade B clients help pay the bills and may be susceptible. Grade C clients, good riddance.
That said, as officers of the court knowing that they are fraudulently inducing those in the construction industry to hire them with false promises, if there is something we can do, we probably should.
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Subject: RE: Texas Collection Agencies
MUCH TO DO ABOUT NOTHING. Grade A business / construction clients don’t forsake their relationship with their legal counsel and engage an out-of-state collection agency to collect on a Claim of Lien based on a phone solicitation any more than Grade A business / construction clients engage an attorney in response to a radio spot. The Texas boys have been at it for years and your Grade A clients will always call you when they are contacted by such folks. If your client was ever to be duped by such tactics it was not Grade A and should be dropped and referred to your competition. Just my thoughts. Arnie.
From: clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.orgmailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Alex Barthet
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Subject: Re: [CLC-Discussion] Texas Collection Agencies
David - I have tried to call on numerous occasions after they call my clients and they never call me back. Once they know a lawyer is involved, they seem to duck back into the shadows.
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Subject: RE: Texas Collection Agencies
I have heard similar stories. Milton Myers went away when I returned the call.
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Subject: [CLC-Discussion] Texas Collection Agencies
Good morning all. I am writing about an issue that I am seeing with increasing frequency. The purpose of this email is to (i) alert the community of this practice, (ii) learn if others are hearing the same thing from their clients and (iii) see if folks smarter than me have any ideas how to deal with, or ideally, stop them.
Many of our clients that record liens are receiving unsolicited calls from collection agencies out of Texas, the two most common we are seeing are Tucker Albin and Assoc. (http://tuckeralbin.net/) and Milton Myers and Assoc. (http://www.mmatx.net/). Obviously, they are getting the clients’ information by pulling the liens from the public records.
The problem is that they are making blatantly false statements such as they are working with others on the project and can guaranty payment if the client signs up, or they are representing several other lienors on the same project that are about the get paid and if the client signs up, he can get them paid now. The reason I know these statements are false is because in the last two occasions that my clients received these calls, they were the only lienors on the projects and on both, I was already in contact with counsel for both the contractor and owner negotiating settlements.
I look forward to hearing from the group.
Regards,
Alex Barthet
Board Certified in Construction Law
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If the committee is going to address this issue, the committee should also address the larger problem of “lien notice services” offering to prepare claims of lien.
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Subject: Re: [CLC-Discussion] Texas Collection Agencies
Perhaps a letter to the Florida Attorney General’s office to see if they are interested in looking into the matter?
It seems to me that if you can show they are using false and misleading information, the Attorney General may be interested…
Michael J Kurzman, Esq.
Florida Bar Certified In Construction Law
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Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 9:13 AM
To: Arnold Tritt; Willis, David; clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org
Subject: Re: [CLC-Discussion] Texas Collection Agencies
Arnie – I can’t argue with your logic about Grade A clients. Grade B clients help pay the bills and may be susceptible. Grade C clients, good riddance.
That said, as officers of the court knowing that they are fraudulently inducing those in the construction industry to hire them with false promises, if there is something we can do, we probably should.
Regards,
Alex Barthet
Board Certified in Construction Law
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From: Arnold Tritt [mailto:arnold.tritt@atritt.com]
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Subject: RE: Texas Collection Agencies
MUCH TO DO ABOUT NOTHING. Grade A business / construction clients don’t forsake their relationship with their legal counsel and engage an out-of-state collection agency to collect on a Claim of Lien based on a phone solicitation any more than Grade A business / construction clients engage an attorney in response to a radio spot. The Texas boys have been at it for years and your Grade A clients will always call you when they are contacted by such folks. If your client was ever to be duped by such tactics it was not Grade A and should be dropped and referred to your competition. Just my thoughts. Arnie.
From: clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.orgmailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Alex Barthet
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Subject: Re: [CLC-Discussion] Texas Collection Agencies
David - I have tried to call on numerous occasions after they call my clients and they never call me back. Once they know a lawyer is involved, they seem to duck back into the shadows.
Regards,
Alex Barthet
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Subject: RE: Texas Collection Agencies
I have heard similar stories. Milton Myers went away when I returned the call.
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Subject: [CLC-Discussion] Texas Collection Agencies
Good morning all. I am writing about an issue that I am seeing with increasing frequency. The purpose of this email is to (i) alert the community of this practice, (ii) learn if others are hearing the same thing from their clients and (iii) see if folks smarter than me have any ideas how to deal with, or ideally, stop them.
Many of our clients that record liens are receiving unsolicited calls from collection agencies out of Texas, the two most common we are seeing are Tucker Albin and Assoc. (http://tuckeralbin.net/http://tuckeralbin.net/) and Milton Myers and Assoc. (http://www.mmatx.net/http://www.mmatx.net/). Obviously, they are getting the clients’ information by pulling the liens from the public records.
The problem is that they are making blatantly false statements such as they are working with others on the project and can guaranty payment if the client signs up, or they are representing several other lienors on the same project that are about the get paid and if the client signs up, he can get them paid now. The reason I know these statements are false is because in the last two occasions that my clients received these calls, they were the only lienors on the projects and on both, I was already in contact with counsel for both the contractor and owner negotiating settlements.
I look forward to hearing from the group.
Regards,
Alex Barthet
Board Certified in Construction Law
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I for one have made multiple calls to these collection agencies, and once I speak with them, those particular clients do not hear from them again.
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From: clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Michael J. Kurzman
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 9:34 AM
To: 'Alex Barthet' Alex@barthet.com; Arnold Tritt arnold.tritt@atritt.com; Willis, David dwillis@rumberger.com; clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org
Subject: Re: [CLC-Discussion] Texas Collection Agencies
Perhaps a letter to the Florida Attorney General’s office to see if they are interested in looking into the matter?
It seems to me that if you can show they are using false and misleading information, the Attorney General may be interested…
Michael J Kurzman, Esq.
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From: clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.orgmailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Alex Barthet
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Subject: Re: [CLC-Discussion] Texas Collection Agencies
Arnie – I can’t argue with your logic about Grade A clients. Grade B clients help pay the bills and may be susceptible. Grade C clients, good riddance.
That said, as officers of the court knowing that they are fraudulently inducing those in the construction industry to hire them with false promises, if there is something we can do, we probably should.
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From: Arnold Tritt [mailto:arnold.tritt@atritt.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 9:05 AM
To: Alex Barthet <Alex@barthet.commailto:Alex@barthet.com>; Willis, David <dwillis@rumberger.commailto:dwillis@rumberger.com>; clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.orgmailto:clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org
Subject: RE: Texas Collection Agencies
MUCH TO DO ABOUT NOTHING. Grade A business / construction clients don’t forsake their relationship with their legal counsel and engage an out-of-state collection agency to collect on a Claim of Lien based on a phone solicitation any more than Grade A business / construction clients engage an attorney in response to a radio spot. The Texas boys have been at it for years and your Grade A clients will always call you when they are contacted by such folks. If your client was ever to be duped by such tactics it was not Grade A and should be dropped and referred to your competition. Just my thoughts. Arnie.
From: clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.orgmailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Alex Barthet
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Subject: Re: [CLC-Discussion] Texas Collection Agencies
David - I have tried to call on numerous occasions after they call my clients and they never call me back. Once they know a lawyer is involved, they seem to duck back into the shadows.
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Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 8:36 AM
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Subject: RE: Texas Collection Agencies
I have heard similar stories. Milton Myers went away when I returned the call.
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From: clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.orgmailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Alex Barthet
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 7:32 AM
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Subject: [CLC-Discussion] Texas Collection Agencies
Good morning all. I am writing about an issue that I am seeing with increasing frequency. The purpose of this email is to (i) alert the community of this practice, (ii) learn if others are hearing the same thing from their clients and (iii) see if folks smarter than me have any ideas how to deal with, or ideally, stop them.
Many of our clients that record liens are receiving unsolicited calls from collection agencies out of Texas, the two most common we are seeing are Tucker Albin and Assoc. (http://tuckeralbin.net/) and Milton Myers and Assoc. (http://www.mmatx.net/). Obviously, they are getting the clients’ information by pulling the liens from the public records.
The problem is that they are making blatantly false statements such as they are working with others on the project and can guaranty payment if the client signs up, or they are representing several other lienors on the same project that are about the get paid and if the client signs up, he can get them paid now. The reason I know these statements are false is because in the last two occasions that my clients received these calls, they were the only lienors on the projects and on both, I was already in contact with counsel for both the contractor and owner negotiating settlements.
I look forward to hearing from the group.
Regards,
Alex Barthet
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