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Mon, Feb 6, 2012 8:42 PM
Fred, if you look closely at that case, it was the Commissioner's E&O carrier (for operational activities) that was the liable party because the Commissioners were protected by the same sovereign immunity. See Palm Beach County v. Trinity Industries, Inc., 661 So. 2d 942 (Fla. 4th DCA 1995).
Since that opinion was published, the legislature made the following changes to section 255.05, specifically in adding section 255.05(9):
(9) On any public works project for which the public authority requires a performance and payment bond, suits at law and in equity may be brought and maintained by and against the public authority on any contract claim arising from a breach of an express provision or an implied covenant of a written agreement or a written directive issued by the public authority pursuant to the written agreement. in any such suit, the public authority and the contractor shall have all of the same rights and obligations as a private person under a like contract except that no liability may be based on an oral modification of either the written contract or written directive. Nothing herein shall be construed to waive the sovereign immunity of the state and its political subdivisions from equitable claims and equitable remedies. The provisions of this section shall apply only to contracts entered into on or after July 1, 1999.
See also
St. Augustine v. Brooks, 55 So. 2d 96 (Fla. 1951) (mechanic's lien will not attach to property held and used by a municipality for public purposes).
Just saying.
Kim
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There’s also an old case out of north Florida holding county commissioners PERSONALLY liable for failing to require a 255 bond!
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Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 2:44 PM
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Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold onpublic land
Why not enforce your bond remedy?
Note the first sentence of 255.05(1)(a); the recent amendments creating existing language requires private party to obtain bond(s) for work that private party contracts for as improvement to public property or a Public Work . To understand better the meaning of the amendment, do research on use of “public work”; that wording is not limited to “ public property” or there would be no disjunctive “or”. A very early case used “public work” as private property of a railroad that would serve the public; that case did not deal with lien or bond, but it illustrates how general “public work” means in current version of statute. A more interesting issue is defining the remedy for non-compliance against the public body or the private party that failed to obtain bonds. In some past cases the commissioners or council members were liable to person or entity that by law had right to rely upon existence of the required bonds. Who was advising the public body; the private party. Does the license or lease have an indemnity clause in favor of public entity? Have fun.
JG Thresher
813-229-7744
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Can you send a copy of the Order on your motion for SJ?
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Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 4:34 PM
To: RPPTL constructionlaw
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold onpublic land
Steve Pickert and I had such a case many years ago, wherein the City of Coral Springs entered into a renewable "Concession Agreement" (i.e., a lease) for a private party to build an ice-skating rink on City property. Under the Concession Agreement, the concessionaire/lessee actually owned the improvements subject to the City's reversionary interest at the conclusion of the lease. The concessionaire/lessee didn't pay the contractor and, in fact, sold its interest during construction. The contractor, our client, recorded a lien against the property, and both the concessionaire/lessee and the purchaser said the property was not lienable. We moved for and were granted summary judgment in our favor on that issue. Attached is the motion/brief, which is a matter of public record and may be helpful. Presumably much of the law has changed/evolved over the past 14 or so years.
Bryan Capps
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Sent: Thu 2/2/2012 3:44 PM
To: RPPTL constructionlaw
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold onpublic land
The answer is in the definitions in 713.01 (and if you are referring to 8:3 of my book, it is set out there). The statutory reason that you can’t lien publicly owned property is because a governmental owner is not within the definition of owner in 713.01. The definition of real property also excludes governmentally owned property. This is intended to keep governmentally owned property out of the lien law because a government must usually go through an election to subject public owned property to liens, e.g., financing bond issues.
An owner is also defined as one having an interest in the property and who enters into a contract for the improvement of the real property. Thus there is no reason that you cannot have a lien on a private leasehold interest that sits on public property. You want to be careful when you prepare the lien to only seek it against the leasehold. Also a lien on a leasehold is typically only as valuable as the tenant is collectable.
Go get em.
Larry R. Leiby, Esq.
Malka & Kravitz, P.A.
1300 Sawgrass Corp. Pkwy., Suite 100
Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33323
Phone: 954-514-0984
Fax: 954-514-0985
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Subject: [RPPTL-construction law] 713.10 lien for private leasehold on public land
Does anyone have any authority for a construction lien on a leasehold where the lessee is a private party but the lessor is a municipality (i.e. on public land)? The lessee contracted for the improvements which were required by the lease agreement. The only authority I have found is Section 8.3 of the Fla. Prac. Construction Law Manual which states in the first paragraph, in part: “However, there may be private leasehold interests on governmental property that are lienable.” I have found no other authority.
Rafael A. Perez
Board Certified Construction Attorney
McArdle and Perez, P.A.
806 S. Douglas Road, Suite 625
Coral Gables, Florida 33134
305-442-2214
Fax 305-442-2291
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Fred, if you look closely at that case, it was the Commissioner's E&O carrier (for operational activities) that was the liable party because the Commissioners were protected by the same sovereign immunity. See Palm Beach County v. Trinity Industries, Inc., 661 So. 2d 942 (Fla. 4th DCA 1995).
Since that opinion was published, the legislature made the following changes to section 255.05, specifically in adding section 255.05(9):
(9) On any public works project for which the public authority requires a performance and payment bond, suits at law and in equity may be brought and maintained by and against the public authority on any contract claim arising from a breach of an express provision or an implied covenant of a written agreement or a written directive issued by the public authority pursuant to the written agreement. in any such suit, the public authority and the contractor shall have all of the same rights and obligations as a private person under a like contract except that no liability may be based on an oral modification of either the written contract or written directive. Nothing herein shall be construed to waive the sovereign immunity of the state and its political subdivisions from equitable claims and equitable remedies. The provisions of this section shall apply only to contracts entered into on or after July 1, 1999.
See also
St. Augustine v. Brooks, 55 So. 2d 96 (Fla. 1951) (mechanic's lien will not attach to property held and used by a municipality for public purposes).
Just saying.
Kim
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Board Certified in Appellate Law and Construction Law
Akerman Senterfitt | 420 South Orange Avenue | Suite 1200 | Orlando, FL 32801
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Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold onpublic land
There’s also an old case out of north Florida holding county commissioners PERSONALLY liable for failing to require a 255 bond!
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315 South Calhoun Street, Suite 600 | Tallahassee FL 32301
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To: 'RPPTL constructionlaw'
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold onpublic land
Why not enforce your bond remedy?
Note the first sentence of 255.05(1)(a); the recent amendments creating existing language requires private party to obtain bond(s) for work that private party contracts for as improvement to public property or a Public Work . To understand better the meaning of the amendment, do research on use of “public work”; that wording is not limited to “ public property” or there would be no disjunctive “or”. A very early case used “public work” as private property of a railroad that would serve the public; that case did not deal with lien or bond, but it illustrates how general “public work” means in current version of statute. A more interesting issue is defining the remedy for non-compliance against the public body or the private party that failed to obtain bonds. In some past cases the commissioners or council members were liable to person or entity that by law had right to rely upon existence of the required bonds. Who was advising the public body; the private party. Does the license or lease have an indemnity clause in favor of public entity? Have fun.
JG Thresher
813-229-7744
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Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold onpublic land
Can you send a copy of the Order on your motion for SJ?
Frederick Dudley | Holland & Knight
Board Certified Construction Lawyer
315 South Calhoun Street, Suite 600 | Tallahassee FL 32301
Phone 850.425.5668 | Fax 850.224.8832 | Cell 850.294.3471
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Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 4:34 PM
To: RPPTL constructionlaw
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold onpublic land
Steve Pickert and I had such a case many years ago, wherein the City of Coral Springs entered into a renewable "Concession Agreement" (i.e., a lease) for a private party to build an ice-skating rink on City property. Under the Concession Agreement, the concessionaire/lessee actually owned the improvements subject to the City's reversionary interest at the conclusion of the lease. The concessionaire/lessee didn't pay the contractor and, in fact, sold its interest during construction. The contractor, our client, recorded a lien against the property, and both the concessionaire/lessee and the purchaser said the property was not lienable. We moved for and were granted summary judgment in our favor on that issue. Attached is the motion/brief, which is a matter of public record and may be helpful. Presumably much of the law has changed/evolved over the past 14 or so years.
Bryan Capps
________________________________
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Sent: Thu 2/2/2012 3:44 PM
To: RPPTL constructionlaw
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold onpublic land
The answer is in the definitions in 713.01 (and if you are referring to 8:3 of my book, it is set out there). The statutory reason that you can’t lien publicly owned property is because a governmental owner is not within the definition of owner in 713.01. The definition of real property also excludes governmentally owned property. This is intended to keep governmentally owned property out of the lien law because a government must usually go through an election to subject public owned property to liens, e.g., financing bond issues.
An owner is also defined as one having an interest in the property and who enters into a contract for the improvement of the real property. Thus there is no reason that you cannot have a lien on a private leasehold interest that sits on public property. You want to be careful when you prepare the lien to only seek it against the leasehold. Also a lien on a leasehold is typically only as valuable as the tenant is collectable.
Go get em.
Larry R. Leiby, Esq.
Malka & Kravitz, P.A.
1300 Sawgrass Corp. Pkwy., Suite 100
Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33323
Phone: 954-514-0984
Fax: 954-514-0985
e-mail: leiby@mkpalaw.com<mailto:leiby@mkpalaw.com>
Board Certified in Construction Law
Fla. S. Ct. Certified Circuit Court Civil Mediator
Fellow, College of Commercial Arbitrators
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Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 2:56 PM
To: constructionlaw@lists.flabarrpptl.org<mailto:constructionlaw@lists.flabarrpptl.org>
Subject: [RPPTL-construction law] 713.10 lien for private leasehold on public land
Does anyone have any authority for a construction lien on a leasehold where the lessee is a private party but the lessor is a municipality (i.e. on public land)? The lessee contracted for the improvements which were required by the lease agreement. The only authority I have found is Section 8.3 of the Fla. Prac. Construction Law Manual which states in the first paragraph, in part: “However, there may be private leasehold interests on governmental property that are lienable.” I have found no other authority.
Rafael A. Perez
Board Certified Construction Attorney
McArdle and Perez, P.A.
806 S. Douglas Road, Suite 625
Coral Gables, Florida 33134
305-442-2214
Fax 305-442-2291
rperez@mcper.com<mailto:rperez@mcper.com>
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Mon, Feb 6, 2012 9:07 PM
The case I was referring to is Warren, Governor for Use and Benefit of Hughes Supply Co., Inc. vs. Glens Falls Indemnity Co., 66 So. 2d 54 (Fla. 1953) and 74 So. 2d 888 (Fla. 1954), in which liability was found against the statutory surety bonds of school board members who had failed to require a s. 255 bond. I used this case in Lee County to effect a $50,000 settlement against five (5) county commissioners each of who had posted the then required statutory $10,000 surety bonds (maybe since repealed?).
P. S. I was a mere child when Warren was Governor and this case was decided! A really old lawyer told me about it!
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Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 3:43 PM
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Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold on public land
Fred, if you look closely at that case, it was the Commissioner's E&O carrier (for operational activities) that was the liable party because the Commissioners were protected by the same sovereign immunity. See Palm Beach County v. Trinity Industries, Inc., 661 So. 2d 942 (Fla. 4th DCA 1995).
Since that opinion was published, the legislature made the following changes to section 255.05, specifically in adding section 255.05(9):
(9) On any public works project for which the public authority requires a performance and payment bond, suits at law and in equity may be brought and maintained by and against the public authority on any contract claim arising from a breach of an express provision or an implied covenant of a written agreement or a written directive issued by the public authority pursuant to the written agreement. in any such suit, the public authority and the contractor shall have all of the same rights and obligations as a private person under a like contract except that no liability may be based on an oral modification of either the written contract or written directive. Nothing herein shall be construed to waive the sovereign immunity of the state and its political subdivisions from equitable claims and equitable remedies. The provisions of this section shall apply only to contracts entered into on or after July 1, 1999.
See also
St. Augustine v. Brooks, 55 So. 2d 96 (Fla. 1951) (mechanic's lien will not attach to property held and used by a municipality for public purposes).
Just saying.
Kim
Kimberly A. Ashby
Board Certified in Appellate Law and Construction Law
Akerman Senterfitt | 420 South Orange Avenue | Suite 1200 | Orlando, FL 32801
P.O. Box 231, Orlando, Florida 32802
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Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold onpublic land
There’s also an old case out of north Florida holding county commissioners PERSONALLY liable for failing to require a 255 bond!
Frederick Dudley | Holland & Knight
Board Certified Construction Lawyer
315 South Calhoun Street, Suite 600 | Tallahassee FL 32301
Phone 850.425.5668 | Fax 850.224.8832 | Cell 850.294.3471
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Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 2:44 PM
To: 'RPPTL constructionlaw'
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold onpublic land
Why not enforce your bond remedy?
Note the first sentence of 255.05(1)(a); the recent amendments creating existing language requires private party to obtain bond(s) for work that private party contracts for as improvement to public property or a Public Work . To understand better the meaning of the amendment, do research on use of “public work”; that wording is not limited to “ public property” or there would be no disjunctive “or”. A very early case used “public work” as private property of a railroad that would serve the public; that case did not deal with lien or bond, but it illustrates how general “public work” means in current version of statute. A more interesting issue is defining the remedy for non-compliance against the public body or the private party that failed to obtain bonds. In some past cases the commissioners or council members were liable to person or entity that by law had right to rely upon existence of the required bonds. Who was advising the public body; the private party. Does the license or lease have an indemnity clause in favor of public entity? Have fun.
JG Thresher
813-229-7744
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Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold onpublic land
Can you send a copy of the Order on your motion for SJ?
Frederick Dudley | Holland & Knight
Board Certified Construction Lawyer
315 South Calhoun Street, Suite 600 | Tallahassee FL 32301
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Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 4:34 PM
To: RPPTL constructionlaw
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold onpublic land
Steve Pickert and I had such a case many years ago, wherein the City of Coral Springs entered into a renewable "Concession Agreement" (i.e., a lease) for a private party to build an ice-skating rink on City property. Under the Concession Agreement, the concessionaire/lessee actually owned the improvements subject to the City's reversionary interest at the conclusion of the lease. The concessionaire/lessee didn't pay the contractor and, in fact, sold its interest during construction. The contractor, our client, recorded a lien against the property, and both the concessionaire/lessee and the purchaser said the property was not lienable. We moved for and were granted summary judgment in our favor on that issue. Attached is the motion/brief, which is a matter of public record and may be helpful. Presumably much of the law has changed/evolved over the past 14 or so years.
Bryan Capps
From: constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.orgmailto:constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org on behalf of Larry Leiby
Sent: Thu 2/2/2012 3:44 PM
To: RPPTL constructionlaw
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold onpublic land
The answer is in the definitions in 713.01 (and if you are referring to 8:3 of my book, it is set out there). The statutory reason that you can’t lien publicly owned property is because a governmental owner is not within the definition of owner in 713.01. The definition of real property also excludes governmentally owned property. This is intended to keep governmentally owned property out of the lien law because a government must usually go through an election to subject public owned property to liens, e.g., financing bond issues.
An owner is also defined as one having an interest in the property and who enters into a contract for the improvement of the real property. Thus there is no reason that you cannot have a lien on a private leasehold interest that sits on public property. You want to be careful when you prepare the lien to only seek it against the leasehold. Also a lien on a leasehold is typically only as valuable as the tenant is collectable.
Go get em.
Larry R. Leiby, Esq.
Malka & Kravitz, P.A.
1300 Sawgrass Corp. Pkwy., Suite 100
Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33323
Phone: 954-514-0984
Fax: 954-514-0985
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Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 2:56 PM
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Subject: [RPPTL-construction law] 713.10 lien for private leasehold on public land
Does anyone have any authority for a construction lien on a leasehold where the lessee is a private party but the lessor is a municipality (i.e. on public land)? The lessee contracted for the improvements which were required by the lease agreement. The only authority I have found is Section 8.3 of the Fla. Prac. Construction Law Manual which states in the first paragraph, in part: “However, there may be private leasehold interests on governmental property that are lienable.” I have found no other authority.
Rafael A. Perez
Board Certified Construction Attorney
McArdle and Perez, P.A.
806 S. Douglas Road, Suite 625
Coral Gables, Florida 33134
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The case I was referring to is Warren, Governor for Use and Benefit of Hughes Supply Co., Inc. vs. Glens Falls Indemnity Co., 66 So. 2d 54 (Fla. 1953) and 74 So. 2d 888 (Fla. 1954), in which liability was found against the statutory surety bonds of school board members who had failed to require a s. 255 bond. I used this case in Lee County to effect a $50,000 settlement against five (5) county commissioners each of who had posted the then required statutory $10,000 surety bonds (maybe since repealed?).
P. S. I was a mere child when Warren was Governor and this case was decided! A really old lawyer told me about it!
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From: constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of kim.ashby@akerman.com
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 3:43 PM
To: constructionlaw@lists.flabarrpptl.org
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold on public land
Fred, if you look closely at that case, it was the Commissioner's E&O carrier (for operational activities) that was the liable party because the Commissioners were protected by the same sovereign immunity. See Palm Beach County v. Trinity Industries, Inc., 661 So. 2d 942 (Fla. 4th DCA 1995).
Since that opinion was published, the legislature made the following changes to section 255.05, specifically in adding section 255.05(9):
(9) On any public works project for which the public authority requires a performance and payment bond, suits at law and in equity may be brought and maintained by and against the public authority on any contract claim arising from a breach of an express provision or an implied covenant of a written agreement or a written directive issued by the public authority pursuant to the written agreement. in any such suit, the public authority and the contractor shall have all of the same rights and obligations as a private person under a like contract except that no liability may be based on an oral modification of either the written contract or written directive. Nothing herein shall be construed to waive the sovereign immunity of the state and its political subdivisions from equitable claims and equitable remedies. The provisions of this section shall apply only to contracts entered into on or after July 1, 1999.
See also
St. Augustine v. Brooks, 55 So. 2d 96 (Fla. 1951) (mechanic's lien will not attach to property held and used by a municipality for public purposes).
Just saying.
Kim
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There’s also an old case out of north Florida holding county commissioners PERSONALLY liable for failing to require a 255 bond!
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Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 2:44 PM
To: 'RPPTL constructionlaw'
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold onpublic land
Why not enforce your bond remedy?
Note the first sentence of 255.05(1)(a); the recent amendments creating existing language requires private party to obtain bond(s) for work that private party contracts for as improvement to public property or a Public Work . To understand better the meaning of the amendment, do research on use of “public work”; that wording is not limited to “ public property” or there would be no disjunctive “or”. A very early case used “public work” as private property of a railroad that would serve the public; that case did not deal with lien or bond, but it illustrates how general “public work” means in current version of statute. A more interesting issue is defining the remedy for non-compliance against the public body or the private party that failed to obtain bonds. In some past cases the commissioners or council members were liable to person or entity that by law had right to rely upon existence of the required bonds. Who was advising the public body; the private party. Does the license or lease have an indemnity clause in favor of public entity? Have fun.
JG Thresher
813-229-7744
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Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 2:25 PM
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Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold onpublic land
Can you send a copy of the Order on your motion for SJ?
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From: constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org<mailto:constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org> [mailto:constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Bryan L. Capps
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 4:34 PM
To: RPPTL constructionlaw
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold onpublic land
Steve Pickert and I had such a case many years ago, wherein the City of Coral Springs entered into a renewable "Concession Agreement" (i.e., a lease) for a private party to build an ice-skating rink on City property. Under the Concession Agreement, the concessionaire/lessee actually owned the improvements subject to the City's reversionary interest at the conclusion of the lease. The concessionaire/lessee didn't pay the contractor and, in fact, sold its interest during construction. The contractor, our client, recorded a lien against the property, and both the concessionaire/lessee and the purchaser said the property was not lienable. We moved for and were granted summary judgment in our favor on that issue. Attached is the motion/brief, which is a matter of public record and may be helpful. Presumably much of the law has changed/evolved over the past 14 or so years.
Bryan Capps
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Sent: Thu 2/2/2012 3:44 PM
To: RPPTL constructionlaw
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold onpublic land
The answer is in the definitions in 713.01 (and if you are referring to 8:3 of my book, it is set out there). The statutory reason that you can’t lien publicly owned property is because a governmental owner is not within the definition of owner in 713.01. The definition of real property also excludes governmentally owned property. This is intended to keep governmentally owned property out of the lien law because a government must usually go through an election to subject public owned property to liens, e.g., financing bond issues.
An owner is also defined as one having an interest in the property and who enters into a contract for the improvement of the real property. Thus there is no reason that you cannot have a lien on a private leasehold interest that sits on public property. You want to be careful when you prepare the lien to only seek it against the leasehold. Also a lien on a leasehold is typically only as valuable as the tenant is collectable.
Go get em.
Larry R. Leiby, Esq.
Malka & Kravitz, P.A.
1300 Sawgrass Corp. Pkwy., Suite 100
Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33323
Phone: 954-514-0984
Fax: 954-514-0985
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Subject: [RPPTL-construction law] 713.10 lien for private leasehold on public land
Does anyone have any authority for a construction lien on a leasehold where the lessee is a private party but the lessor is a municipality (i.e. on public land)? The lessee contracted for the improvements which were required by the lease agreement. The only authority I have found is Section 8.3 of the Fla. Prac. Construction Law Manual which states in the first paragraph, in part: “However, there may be private leasehold interests on governmental property that are lienable.” I have found no other authority.
Rafael A. Perez
Board Certified Construction Attorney
McArdle and Perez, P.A.
806 S. Douglas Road, Suite 625
Coral Gables, Florida 33134
305-442-2214
Fax 305-442-2291
rperez@mcper.com<mailto:rperez@mcper.com>
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Yes, I know about Glens Falls. (I love that case). I have a dec action pending with a Prime Contract that well exceeds the threshold, but where the individual projects thereunder were less than $200K each (after they deducted the DPO’s-change orders). Hence the “slice and dice” question.
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To: constructionlaw@lists.flabarrpptl.org
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold on public land
The case I was referring to is Warren, Governor for Use and Benefit of Hughes Supply Co., Inc. vs. Glens Falls Indemnity Co., 66 So. 2d 54 (Fla. 1953) and 74 So. 2d 888 (Fla. 1954), in which liability was found against the statutory surety bonds of school board members who had failed to require a s. 255 bond. I used this case in Lee County to effect a $50,000 settlement against five (5) county commissioners each of who had posted the then required statutory $10,000 surety bonds (maybe since repealed?).
P. S. I was a mere child when Warren was Governor and this case was decided! A really old lawyer told me about it!
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315 South Calhoun Street, Suite 600 | Tallahassee FL 32301
Phone 850.425.5668 | Fax 850.224.8832 | Cell 850.294.3471
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Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 3:43 PM
To: constructionlaw@lists.flabarrpptl.org
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold on public land
Fred, if you look closely at that case, it was the Commissioner's E&O carrier (for operational activities) that was the liable party because the Commissioners were protected by the same sovereign immunity. See Palm Beach County v. Trinity Industries, Inc., 661 So. 2d 942 (Fla. 4th DCA 1995).
Since that opinion was published, the legislature made the following changes to section 255.05, specifically in adding section 255.05(9):
(9) On any public works project for which the public authority requires a performance and payment bond, suits at law and in equity may be brought and maintained by and against the public authority on any contract claim arising from a breach of an express provision or an implied covenant of a written agreement or a written directive issued by the public authority pursuant to the written agreement. in any such suit, the public authority and the contractor shall have all of the same rights and obligations as a private person under a like contract except that no liability may be based on an oral modification of either the written contract or written directive. Nothing herein shall be construed to waive the sovereign immunity of the state and its political subdivisions from equitable claims and equitable remedies. The provisions of this section shall apply only to contracts entered into on or after July 1, 1999.
See also
St. Augustine v. Brooks, 55 So. 2d 96 (Fla. 1951) (mechanic's lien will not attach to property held and used by a municipality for public purposes).
Just saying.
Kim
Kimberly A. Ashby
Board Certified in Appellate Law and Construction Law
Akerman Senterfitt | 420 South Orange Avenue | Suite 1200 | Orlando, FL 32801
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To: constructionlaw@lists.flabarrpptl.org
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold onpublic land
There’s also an old case out of north Florida holding county commissioners PERSONALLY liable for failing to require a 255 bond!
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315 South Calhoun Street, Suite 600 | Tallahassee FL 32301
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Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 2:44 PM
To: 'RPPTL constructionlaw'
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold onpublic land
Why not enforce your bond remedy?
Note the first sentence of 255.05(1)(a); the recent amendments creating existing language requires private party to obtain bond(s) for work that private party contracts for as improvement to public property or a Public Work . To understand better the meaning of the amendment, do research on use of “public work”; that wording is not limited to “ public property” or there would be no disjunctive “or”. A very early case used “public work” as private property of a railroad that would serve the public; that case did not deal with lien or bond, but it illustrates how general “public work” means in current version of statute. A more interesting issue is defining the remedy for non-compliance against the public body or the private party that failed to obtain bonds. In some past cases the commissioners or council members were liable to person or entity that by law had right to rely upon existence of the required bonds. Who was advising the public body; the private party. Does the license or lease have an indemnity clause in favor of public entity? Have fun.
JG Thresher
813-229-7744
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To: constructionlaw@lists.flabarrpptl.org
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold onpublic land
Can you send a copy of the Order on your motion for SJ?
Frederick Dudley | Holland & Knight
Board Certified Construction Lawyer
315 South Calhoun Street, Suite 600 | Tallahassee FL 32301
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Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 4:34 PM
To: RPPTL constructionlaw
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold onpublic land
Steve Pickert and I had such a case many years ago, wherein the City of Coral Springs entered into a renewable "Concession Agreement" (i.e., a lease) for a private party to build an ice-skating rink on City property. Under the Concession Agreement, the concessionaire/lessee actually owned the improvements subject to the City's reversionary interest at the conclusion of the lease. The concessionaire/lessee didn't pay the contractor and, in fact, sold its interest during construction. The contractor, our client, recorded a lien against the property, and both the concessionaire/lessee and the purchaser said the property was not lienable. We moved for and were granted summary judgment in our favor on that issue. Attached is the motion/brief, which is a matter of public record and may be helpful. Presumably much of the law has changed/evolved over the past 14 or so years.
Bryan Capps
From: constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org on behalf of Larry Leiby
Sent: Thu 2/2/2012 3:44 PM
To: RPPTL constructionlaw
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold onpublic land
The answer is in the definitions in 713.01 (and if you are referring to 8:3 of my book, it is set out there). The statutory reason that you can’t lien publicly owned property is because a governmental owner is not within the definition of owner in 713.01. The definition of real property also excludes governmentally owned property. This is intended to keep governmentally owned property out of the lien law because a government must usually go through an election to subject public owned property to liens, e.g., financing bond issues.
An owner is also defined as one having an interest in the property and who enters into a contract for the improvement of the real property. Thus there is no reason that you cannot have a lien on a private leasehold interest that sits on public property. You want to be careful when you prepare the lien to only seek it against the leasehold. Also a lien on a leasehold is typically only as valuable as the tenant is collectable.
Go get em.
Larry R. Leiby, Esq.
Malka & Kravitz, P.A.
1300 Sawgrass Corp. Pkwy., Suite 100
Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33323
Phone: 954-514-0984
Fax: 954-514-0985
e-mail: leiby@mkpalaw.com
Board Certified in Construction Law
Fla. S. Ct. Certified Circuit Court Civil Mediator
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Subject: [RPPTL-construction law] 713.10 lien for private leasehold on public land
Does anyone have any authority for a construction lien on a leasehold where the lessee is a private party but the lessor is a municipality (i.e. on public land)? The lessee contracted for the improvements which were required by the lease agreement. The only authority I have found is Section 8.3 of the Fla. Prac. Construction Law Manual which states in the first paragraph, in part: “However, there may be private leasehold interests on governmental property that are lienable.” I have found no other authority.
Rafael A. Perez
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Yes, I know about Glens Falls. (I love that case). I have a dec action pending with a Prime Contract that well exceeds the threshold, but where the individual projects thereunder were less than $200K each (after they deducted the DPO’s-change orders). Hence the “slice and dice” question.
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The case I was referring to is Warren, Governor for Use and Benefit of Hughes Supply Co., Inc. vs. Glens Falls Indemnity Co., 66 So. 2d 54 (Fla. 1953) and 74 So. 2d 888 (Fla. 1954), in which liability was found against the statutory surety bonds of school board members who had failed to require a s. 255 bond. I used this case in Lee County to effect a $50,000 settlement against five (5) county commissioners each of who had posted the then required statutory $10,000 surety bonds (maybe since repealed?).
P. S. I was a mere child when Warren was Governor and this case was decided! A really old lawyer told me about it!
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Fred, if you look closely at that case, it was the Commissioner's E&O carrier (for operational activities) that was the liable party because the Commissioners were protected by the same sovereign immunity. See Palm Beach County v. Trinity Industries, Inc., 661 So. 2d 942 (Fla. 4th DCA 1995).
Since that opinion was published, the legislature made the following changes to section 255.05, specifically in adding section 255.05(9):
(9) On any public works project for which the public authority requires a performance and payment bond, suits at law and in equity may be brought and maintained by and against the public authority on any contract claim arising from a breach of an express provision or an implied covenant of a written agreement or a written directive issued by the public authority pursuant to the written agreement. in any such suit, the public authority and the contractor shall have all of the same rights and obligations as a private person under a like contract except that no liability may be based on an oral modification of either the written contract or written directive. Nothing herein shall be construed to waive the sovereign immunity of the state and its political subdivisions from equitable claims and equitable remedies. The provisions of this section shall apply only to contracts entered into on or after July 1, 1999.
See also
St. Augustine v. Brooks, 55 So. 2d 96 (Fla. 1951) (mechanic's lien will not attach to property held and used by a municipality for public purposes).
Just saying.
Kim
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There’s also an old case out of north Florida holding county commissioners PERSONALLY liable for failing to require a 255 bond!
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Why not enforce your bond remedy?
Note the first sentence of 255.05(1)(a); the recent amendments creating existing language requires private party to obtain bond(s) for work that private party contracts for as improvement to public property or a Public Work . To understand better the meaning of the amendment, do research on use of “public work”; that wording is not limited to “ public property” or there would be no disjunctive “or”. A very early case used “public work” as private property of a railroad that would serve the public; that case did not deal with lien or bond, but it illustrates how general “public work” means in current version of statute. A more interesting issue is defining the remedy for non-compliance against the public body or the private party that failed to obtain bonds. In some past cases the commissioners or council members were liable to person or entity that by law had right to rely upon existence of the required bonds. Who was advising the public body; the private party. Does the license or lease have an indemnity clause in favor of public entity? Have fun.
JG Thresher
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Can you send a copy of the Order on your motion for SJ?
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Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 4:34 PM
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Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold onpublic land
Steve Pickert and I had such a case many years ago, wherein the City of Coral Springs entered into a renewable "Concession Agreement" (i.e., a lease) for a private party to build an ice-skating rink on City property. Under the Concession Agreement, the concessionaire/lessee actually owned the improvements subject to the City's reversionary interest at the conclusion of the lease. The concessionaire/lessee didn't pay the contractor and, in fact, sold its interest during construction. The contractor, our client, recorded a lien against the property, and both the concessionaire/lessee and the purchaser said the property was not lienable. We moved for and were granted summary judgment in our favor on that issue. Attached is the motion/brief, which is a matter of public record and may be helpful. Presumably much of the law has changed/evolved over the past 14 or so years.
Bryan Capps
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Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold onpublic land
The answer is in the definitions in 713.01 (and if you are referring to 8:3 of my book, it is set out there). The statutory reason that you can’t lien publicly owned property is because a governmental owner is not within the definition of owner in 713.01. The definition of real property also excludes governmentally owned property. This is intended to keep governmentally owned property out of the lien law because a government must usually go through an election to subject public owned property to liens, e.g., financing bond issues.
An owner is also defined as one having an interest in the property and who enters into a contract for the improvement of the real property. Thus there is no reason that you cannot have a lien on a private leasehold interest that sits on public property. You want to be careful when you prepare the lien to only seek it against the leasehold. Also a lien on a leasehold is typically only as valuable as the tenant is collectable.
Go get em.
Larry R. Leiby, Esq.
Malka & Kravitz, P.A.
1300 Sawgrass Corp. Pkwy., Suite 100
Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33323
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Subject: [RPPTL-construction law] 713.10 lien for private leasehold on public land
Does anyone have any authority for a construction lien on a leasehold where the lessee is a private party but the lessor is a municipality (i.e. on public land)? The lessee contracted for the improvements which were required by the lease agreement. The only authority I have found is Section 8.3 of the Fla. Prac. Construction Law Manual which states in the first paragraph, in part: “However, there may be private leasehold interests on governmental property that are lienable.” I have found no other authority.
Rafael A. Perez
Board Certified Construction Attorney
McArdle and Perez, P.A.
806 S. Douglas Road, Suite 625
Coral Gables, Florida 33134
305-442-2214
Fax 305-442-2291
rperez@mcper.com
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Greg Elliott
Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:03 PM
Hmm. Always viewed language added in 255.05(9) as, more or less, a
codification of Miorelli v Brevard and not so much directed to public
entity liability under Palm Beach v. Trinity, etc. Seems the S Ct
indirectly recognized as such in FDEP v. ContractPoint, 986/1260.
Anyway, have had to resort to Palm Beach/Trinity type actions on several
occasions in the recent past, alleging a cause against the public entity
for failure to comply with the "ministerial duties" imposed on it by
statute (to see that a compliant bond is recorded prior to
commencement). A few times I have brought them in cases where a bond
was apparently obtained by the prime but never recorded (prejudicing the
sub-subs & materialmen in getting notices to the proper parties). In my
view liability for the surety (and principal if solvent) was pretty
straightforward when Martin Paving "no recording/no reliance on notice
defenses" prevailed (overlooking common law bond rationale). Now that
liability on the 255.05 Bond count apparently turns on whether the
claimant was "prejudiced" by failure to record (American Home
Assurance), you almost have to add the additional count against the
public entity for failure to see that a compliant bond was recorded
under Palm Beach/Trinity.
When your on that path the attorneys for the entity have started taking
the position the Palm Beach/Trinity type claim is in tort for common law
negligence, with the significance being whether notice requirements and
liability limitations of 768.28 apply, and further, whether comparatives
under 768.81 (Fabre) come in. Usually they try to point fault at the
claimant, whatever "noticing" outfit the sub or materialman used to
serve their notices, and any other party that could have taken action to
avert notice failings. I have even had one where the public entity and
the prime contractor cross-claimed against each other, each claiming
that the other "promised to record the bond". Very murky process.
Experience suggest to me that much of it could be avoided if there was
provision in 255.05, akin to that in 713.23(1)(b) (imposing liability
against the "owner, contractor or surety" for failing to furnish a copy
of the bond on demand). I say this, because sub-subs and materialman
almost always get the "owner" right when serving their notices even if
they can't find the bond. The Notice to Owner/Contractor form
inevitably requests a copy of any bond (713.23/255.05 and 337.18). I
don't recall once in 28 years having seen a single instance in which any
party that received notice actually furnished a copy of the bond. Also,
(and as Mr. Leiby adroitly points out in his learned treatise),
searching for bonds in the public record is never easy where there are
no specifications to the clerk for indexing.
GTE
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On 2/6/2012 3:42 PM, kim.ashby@akerman.com wrote:
Fred, if you look closely at that case, it was the Commissioner's E&O
carrier (for operational activities) that was the liable party because
the Commissioners were protected by the same sovereign immunity. See
/Palm Beach County v. Trinity Industries, Inc./, 661 So. 2d 942 (Fla.
4th DCA 1995).//
Since that opinion was published, the legislature made the following
changes to section 255.05, specifically in adding section 255.05(9):
(9) On any public works project for which the public
authority requires a performance and payment bond, suits at law and in
equity may be brought and maintained by and against the public
authority on any contract claim arising from a breach of an express
provision or an implied covenant of a written agreement or a written
directive issued by the public authority pursuant to the written
agreement. in any such suit, the public authority and the contractor
shall have all of the same rights and obligations as a private person
under a like contract except that no liability may be based on an oral
modification of either the written contract or written directive.
/Nothing herein shall be construed to waive the sovereign immunity of
the state and its political subdivisions from equitable claims and
equitable remedies. / The provisions of this section shall apply only
to contracts entered into on or after July 1, 1999.
/See also/
/St. Augustine v. Brooks,/55 So. 2d 96 (Fla. 1951) (mechanic's lien
will not attach to property held and used by a municipality for public
purposes).
Just saying.
Kim
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leasehold onpublic land
There's also an old case out of north Florida holding county
commissioners PERSONALLY liable for failing to require a 255 bond!
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315 South Calhoun Street, Suite 600 | Tallahassee FL 32301
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*Joseph G. Thresher
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 2:44 PM
To: 'RPPTL constructionlaw'
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private
leasehold onpublic land
Why not enforce your bond remedy?
Note the first sentence of 255.05(1)(a); the recent amendments
creating existing language requires private party to obtain bond(s)
for work that private party contracts for as improvement to public
property or a Public Work . To understand better the meaning of the
amendment, do research on use of "public work"; that wording is not
limited to " public property" or there would be no disjunctive "or". A
very early case used "public work" as private property of a railroad
that would serve the public; that case did not deal with lien or bond,
but it illustrates how general "public work" means in current version
of statute. A more interesting issue is defining the remedy for
non-compliance against the public body or the private party that
failed to obtain bonds. In some past cases the commissioners or
council members were liable to person or entity that by law had right
to rely upon existence of the required bonds. Who was advising the
public body; the private party. Does the license or lease have an
indemnity clause in favor of public entity? Have fun.
JG Thresher
813-229-7744
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Can you send a copy of the Order on your motion for SJ?
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Board Certified Construction Lawyer
315 South Calhoun Street, Suite 600 | Tallahassee FL 32301
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*Bryan L. Capps
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 4:34 PM
To: RPPTL constructionlaw
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private
leasehold onpublic land
Steve Pickert and I had such a case many years ago, wherein the City
of Coral Springs entered into a renewable "Concession Agreement"
(i.e., a lease) for a private party to build an ice-skating rink on
City property. Under the Concession Agreement,
the concessionaire/lessee actually owned the improvements subject to
the City's reversionary interest at the conclusion of the lease. The
concessionaire/lessee didn't pay the contractor and, in fact, sold its
interest during construction. The contractor, our client, recorded a
lien against the property, and both the concessionaire/lessee and the
purchaser said the property was not lienable. We moved for and were
granted summary judgment in our favor on that issue. Attached is the
motion/brief, which is a matter of public record and may be helpful.
Presumably much of the law has changed/evolved over the past 14 or so
years.
Bryan Capps
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Larry Leiby
Sent: Thu 2/2/2012 3:44 PM
To: RPPTL constructionlaw
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private
leasehold onpublic land
The answer is in the definitions in 713.01 (and if you are referring
to 8:3 of my book, it is set out there). The statutory reason that
you can't lien publicly owned property is because a governmental owner
is not within the definition of owner in 713.01. The definition of
real property also excludes governmentally owned property. This is
intended to keep governmentally owned property out of the lien law
because a government must usually go through an election to subject
public owned property to liens, e.g., financing bond issues.
An owner is also defined as one having an interest in the property and
who enters into a contract for the improvement of the real property.
Thus there is no reason that you cannot have a lien on a private
leasehold interest that sits on public property. You want to be
careful when you prepare the lien to only seek it against the
leasehold. Also a lien on a leasehold is typically only as valuable
as the tenant is collectable.
Go get em.
Larry R. Leiby, Esq.
*Malka & Kravitz, P.A. *
1300 Sawgrass Corp. Pkwy., Suite 100
Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33323
Phone: 954-514-0984
Fax: 954-514-0985
e-mail: leiby@mkpalaw.com mailto:leiby@mkpalaw.com
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Fellow, College of Commercial Arbitrators
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Subject: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold
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Does anyone have any authority for a construction lien on a leasehold
where the lessee is a private party but the lessor is a municipality
(i.e. on public land)? The lessee contracted for the improvements
which were required by the lease agreement. The only authority I have
found is Section 8.3 of the Fla. Prac. Construction Law Manual which
states in the first paragraph, in part: "However, there may be private
leasehold interests on governmental property that are lienable." I
have found no other authority.
Rafael A. Perez
Board Certified Construction Attorney
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Hmm. Always viewed language added in 255.05(9) as, more or less, a
codification of Miorelli v Brevard and not so much directed to public
entity liability under Palm Beach v. Trinity, etc. Seems the S Ct
indirectly recognized as such in FDEP v. ContractPoint, 986/1260.
Anyway, have had to resort to Palm Beach/Trinity type actions on several
occasions in the recent past, alleging a cause against the public entity
for failure to comply with the "ministerial duties" imposed on it by
statute (to see that a compliant bond is recorded prior to
commencement). A few times I have brought them in cases where a bond
was apparently obtained by the prime but never recorded (prejudicing the
sub-subs & materialmen in getting notices to the proper parties). In my
view liability for the surety (and principal if solvent) was pretty
straightforward when Martin Paving "no recording/no reliance on notice
defenses" prevailed (overlooking common law bond rationale). Now that
liability on the 255.05 Bond count apparently turns on whether the
claimant was "prejudiced" by failure to record (American Home
Assurance), you almost have to add the additional count against the
public entity for failure to see that a compliant bond was recorded
under Palm Beach/Trinity.
When your on that path the attorneys for the entity have started taking
the position the Palm Beach/Trinity type claim is in tort for common law
negligence, with the significance being whether notice requirements and
liability limitations of 768.28 apply, and further, whether comparatives
under 768.81 (Fabre) come in. Usually they try to point fault at the
claimant, whatever "noticing" outfit the sub or materialman used to
serve their notices, and any other party that could have taken action to
avert notice failings. I have even had one where the public entity and
the prime contractor cross-claimed against each other, each claiming
that the other "promised to record the bond". Very murky process.
Experience suggest to me that much of it could be avoided if there was
provision in 255.05, akin to that in 713.23(1)(b) (imposing liability
against the "owner, contractor or surety" for failing to furnish a copy
of the bond on demand). I say this, because sub-subs and materialman
almost always get the "owner" right when serving their notices even if
they can't find the bond. The Notice to Owner/Contractor form
inevitably requests a copy of any bond (713.23/255.05 and 337.18). I
don't recall once in 28 years having seen a single instance in which any
party that received notice actually furnished a copy of the bond. Also,
(and as Mr. Leiby adroitly points out in his learned treatise),
searching for bonds in the public record is never easy where there are
no specifications to the clerk for indexing.
GTE
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On 2/6/2012 3:42 PM, kim.ashby@akerman.com wrote:
>
> Fred, if you look closely at that case, it was the Commissioner's E&O
> carrier (for operational activities) that was the liable party because
> the Commissioners were protected by the same sovereign immunity. See
> /Palm Beach County v. Trinity Industries, Inc./, 661 So. 2d 942 (Fla.
> 4th DCA 1995).//
>
> Since that opinion was published, the legislature made the following
> changes to section 255.05, specifically in adding section 255.05(9):
>
> (9) On any public works project for which the public
> authority requires a performance and payment bond, suits at law and in
> equity may be brought and maintained by and against the public
> authority on any contract claim arising from a breach of an express
> provision or an implied covenant of a written agreement or a written
> directive issued by the public authority pursuant to the written
> agreement. in any such suit, the public authority and the contractor
> shall have all of the same rights and obligations as a private person
> under a like contract except that no liability may be based on an oral
> modification of either the written contract or written directive.
> /Nothing herein shall be construed to waive the sovereign immunity of
> the state and its political subdivisions from equitable claims and
> equitable remedies. / The provisions of this section shall apply only
> to contracts entered into on or after July 1, 1999.
>
> /See also/
>
> /St. Augustine v. Brooks,/55 So. 2d 96 (Fla. 1951) (mechanic's lien
> will not attach to property held and used by a municipality for public
> purposes).
>
> Just saying.
>
> Kim
>
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> *fred.dudley@hklaw.com
> *Sent:* Monday, February 06, 2012 3:04 PM
> *To:* constructionlaw@lists.flabarrpptl.org
> *Subject:* Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private
> leasehold onpublic land
>
> There's also an old case out of north Florida holding county
> commissioners PERSONALLY liable for failing to require a 255 bond!
>
> *Frederick Dudley*| *Holland & Knight*
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> *Joseph G. Thresher
> *Sent:* Monday, February 06, 2012 2:44 PM
> *To:* 'RPPTL constructionlaw'
> *Subject:* Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private
> leasehold onpublic land
>
> Why not enforce your bond remedy?
>
> Note the first sentence of 255.05(1)(a); the recent amendments
> creating existing language requires private party to obtain bond(s)
> for work that private party contracts for as improvement to public
> property or a Public Work . To understand better the meaning of the
> amendment, do research on use of "public work"; that wording is not
> limited to " public property" or there would be no disjunctive "or". A
> very early case used "public work" as private property of a railroad
> that would serve the public; that case did not deal with lien or bond,
> but it illustrates how general "public work" means in current version
> of statute. A more interesting issue is defining the remedy for
> non-compliance against the public body or the private party that
> failed to obtain bonds. In some past cases the commissioners or
> council members were liable to person or entity that by law had right
> to rely upon existence of the required bonds. Who was advising the
> public body; the private party. Does the license or lease have an
> indemnity clause in favor of public entity? Have fun.
>
> JG Thresher
>
> 813-229-7744
>
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> *fred.dudley@hklaw.com
> *Sent:* Friday, February 03, 2012 2:25 PM
> *To:* constructionlaw@lists.flabarrpptl.org
> *Subject:* Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private
> leasehold onpublic land
>
> Can you send a copy of the Order on your motion for SJ?
>
> *Frederick Dudley*| *Holland & Knight*
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> *Bryan L. Capps
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 02, 2012 4:34 PM
> *To:* RPPTL constructionlaw
> *Subject:* Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private
> leasehold onpublic land
>
> Steve Pickert and I had such a case many years ago, wherein the City
> of Coral Springs entered into a renewable "Concession Agreement"
> (i.e., a lease) for a private party to build an ice-skating rink on
> City property. Under the Concession Agreement,
> the concessionaire/lessee actually owned the improvements subject to
> the City's reversionary interest at the conclusion of the lease. The
> concessionaire/lessee didn't pay the contractor and, in fact, sold its
> interest during construction. The contractor, our client, recorded a
> lien against the property, and both the concessionaire/lessee and the
> purchaser said the property was not lienable. We moved for and were
> granted summary judgment in our favor on that issue. Attached is the
> motion/brief, which is a matter of public record and may be helpful.
> Presumably much of the law has changed/evolved over the past 14 or so
> years.
>
> Bryan Capps
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> <mailto:constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org> on behalf of
> Larry Leiby
> *Sent:* Thu 2/2/2012 3:44 PM
> *To:* RPPTL constructionlaw
> *Subject:* Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private
> leasehold onpublic land
>
> The answer is in the definitions in 713.01 (and if you are referring
> to 8:3 of my book, it is set out there). The statutory reason that
> you can't lien publicly owned property is because a governmental owner
> is not within the definition of owner in 713.01. The definition of
> real property also excludes governmentally owned property. This is
> intended to keep governmentally owned property out of the lien law
> because a government must usually go through an election to subject
> public owned property to liens, e.g., financing bond issues.
>
> An owner is also defined as one having an interest in the property and
> who enters into a contract for the improvement of the real property.
> Thus there is no reason that you cannot have a lien on a private
> leasehold interest that sits on public property. You want to be
> careful when you prepare the lien to only seek it against the
> leasehold. Also a lien on a leasehold is typically only as valuable
> as the tenant is collectable.
>
> Go get em.
>
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> [mailto:constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] *On Behalf Of
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> *Sent:* Thursday, February 02, 2012 2:56 PM
> *To:* constructionlaw@lists.flabarrpptl.org
> <mailto:constructionlaw@lists.flabarrpptl.org>
> *Subject:* [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold
> on public land
>
> Does anyone have any authority for a construction lien on a leasehold
> where the lessee is a private party but the lessor is a municipality
> (i.e. on public land)? The lessee contracted for the improvements
> which were required by the lease agreement. The only authority I have
> found is Section 8.3 of the Fla. Prac. Construction Law Manual which
> states in the first paragraph, in part: "However, there may be private
> leasehold interests on governmental property that are lienable." I
> have found no other authority.
>
> Rafael A. Perez
>
> Board Certified Construction Attorney
>
> McArdle and Perez, P.A.
>
> 806 S. Douglas Road, Suite 625
>
> Coral Gables, Florida 33134
>
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Tracye
Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:10 PM
Thank you Greg for the thoughts. The tort route is a long road, but it
may open up to an E & O policy.
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[mailto:constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Greg
Elliott
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 9:04 AM
To: RPPTL constructionlaw
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold
on public land
Hmm. Always viewed language added in 255.05(9) as, more or less, a
codification of Miorelli v Brevard and not so much directed to public
entity liability under Palm Beach v. Trinity, etc. Seems the S Ct
indirectly recognized as such in FDEP v. ContractPoint, 986/1260.
Anyway, have had to resort to Palm Beach/Trinity type actions on several
occasions in the recent past, alleging a cause against the public entity
for failure to comply with the "ministerial duties" imposed on it by
statute (to see that a compliant bond is recorded prior to
commencement). A few times I have brought them in cases where a bond
was apparently obtained by the prime but never recorded (prejudicing the
sub-subs & materialmen in getting notices to the proper parties). In my
view liability for the surety (and principal if solvent) was pretty
straightforward when Martin Paving "no recording/no reliance on notice
defenses" prevailed (overlooking common law bond rationale). Now that
liability on the 255.05 Bond count apparently turns on whether the
claimant was "prejudiced" by failure to record (American Home
Assurance), you almost have to add the additional count against the
public entity for failure to see that a compliant bond was recorded
under Palm Beach/Trinity.
When your on that path the attorneys for the entity have started taking
the position the Palm Beach/Trinity type claim is in tort for common law
negligence, with the significance being whether notice requirements and
liability limitations of 768.28 apply, and further, whether comparatives
under 768.81 (Fabre) come in. Usually they try to point fault at the
claimant, whatever "noticing" outfit the sub or materialman used to
serve their notices, and any other party that could have taken action to
avert notice failings. I have even had one where the public entity and
the prime contractor cross-claimed against each other, each claiming
that the other "promised to record the bond". Very murky process.
Experience suggest to me that much of it could be avoided if there was
provision in 255.05, akin to that in 713.23(1)(b) (imposing liability
against the "owner, contractor or surety" for failing to furnish a copy
of the bond on demand). I say this, because sub-subs and materialman
almost always get the "owner" right when serving their notices even if
they can't find the bond. The Notice to Owner/Contractor form
inevitably requests a copy of any bond (713.23/255.05 and 337.18). I
don't recall once in 28 years having seen a single instance in which any
party that received notice actually furnished a copy of the bond. Also,
(and as Mr. Leiby adroitly points out in his learned treatise),
searching for bonds in the public record is never easy where there are
no specifications to the clerk for indexing.
GTE
Gregory T. Elliott
ELLIOTT - BERGER, P. A.
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Largo, Florida 33771
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On 2/6/2012 3:42 PM, kim.ashby@akerman.com wrote:
Fred, if you look closely at that case, it was the Commissioner's E&O
carrier (for operational activities) that was the liable party because
the Commissioners were protected by the same sovereign immunity. See
Palm Beach County v. Trinity Industries, Inc., 661 So. 2d 942 (Fla. 4th
DCA 1995).
Since that opinion was published, the legislature made the following
changes to section 255.05, specifically in adding section 255.05(9):
(9) On any public works project for which the public
authority requires a performance and payment bond, suits at law and in
equity may be brought and maintained by and against the public authority
on any contract claim arising from a breach of an express provision or
an implied covenant of a written agreement or a written directive issued
by the public authority pursuant to the written agreement. in any such
suit, the public authority and the contractor shall have all of the same
rights and obligations as a private person under a like contract except
that no liability may be based on an oral modification of either the
written contract or written directive. Nothing herein shall be
construed to waive the sovereign immunity of the state and its political
subdivisions from equitable claims and equitable remedies. The
provisions of this section shall apply only to contracts entered into on
or after July 1, 1999.
See also
St. Augustine v. Brooks, 55 So. 2d 96 (Fla. 1951) (mechanic's lien will
not attach to property held and used by a municipality for public
purposes).
Just saying.
Kim
Kimberly A. Ashby
Board Certified in Appellate Law and Construction Law
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Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 3:04 PM
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Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold
onpublic land
There's also an old case out of north Florida holding county
commissioners PERSONALLY liable for failing to require a 255 bond!
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mailto:constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of
Joseph G. Thresher
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 2:44 PM
To: 'RPPTL constructionlaw'
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold
onpublic land
Why not enforce your bond remedy?
Note the first sentence of 255.05(1)(a); the recent amendments creating
existing language requires private party to obtain bond(s) for work that
private party contracts for as improvement to public property or a
Public Work . To understand better the meaning of the amendment, do
research on use of "public work"; that wording is not limited to "
public property" or there would be no disjunctive "or". A very early
case used "public work" as private property of a railroad that would
serve the public; that case did not deal with lien or bond, but it
illustrates how general "public work" means in current version of
statute. A more interesting issue is defining the remedy for
non-compliance against the public body or the private party that failed
to obtain bonds. In some past cases the commissioners or council members
were liable to person or entity that by law had right to rely upon
existence of the required bonds. Who was advising the public body; the
private party. Does the license or lease have an indemnity clause in
favor of public entity? Have fun.
JG Thresher
813-229-7744
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Can you send a copy of the Order on your motion for SJ?
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Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 4:34 PM
To: RPPTL constructionlaw
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold
onpublic land
Steve Pickert and I had such a case many years ago, wherein the City of
Coral Springs entered into a renewable "Concession Agreement" (i.e., a
lease) for a private party to build an ice-skating rink on City
property. Under the Concession Agreement, the concessionaire/lessee
actually owned the improvements subject to the City's reversionary
interest at the conclusion of the lease. The concessionaire/lessee
didn't pay the contractor and, in fact, sold its interest during
construction. The contractor, our client, recorded a lien against the
property, and both the concessionaire/lessee and the purchaser said the
property was not lienable. We moved for and were granted summary
judgment in our favor on that issue. Attached is the motion/brief,
which is a matter of public record and may be helpful. Presumably much
of the law has changed/evolved over the past 14 or so years.
Bryan Capps
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Leiby
Sent: Thu 2/2/2012 3:44 PM
To: RPPTL constructionlaw
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold
onpublic land
The answer is in the definitions in 713.01 (and if you are referring to
8:3 of my book, it is set out there). The statutory reason that you
can't lien publicly owned property is because a governmental owner is
not within the definition of owner in 713.01. The definition of real
property also excludes governmentally owned property. This is intended
to keep governmentally owned property out of the lien law because a
government must usually go through an election to subject public owned
property to liens, e.g., financing bond issues.
An owner is also defined as one having an interest in the property and
who enters into a contract for the improvement of the real property.
Thus there is no reason that you cannot have a lien on a private
leasehold interest that sits on public property. You want to be careful
when you prepare the lien to only seek it against the leasehold. Also a
lien on a leasehold is typically only as valuable as the tenant is
collectable.
Go get em.
Larry R. Leiby, Esq.
Malka & Kravitz, P.A.
1300 Sawgrass Corp. Pkwy., Suite 100
Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33323
Phone: 954-514-0984
Fax: 954-514-0985
e-mail: leiby@mkpalaw.com
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Fla. S. Ct. Certified Circuit Court Civil Mediator
Fellow, College of Commercial Arbitrators
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Subject: [RPPTL-construction law] 713.10 lien for private leasehold on
public land
Does anyone have any authority for a construction lien on a leasehold
where the lessee is a private party but the lessor is a municipality
(i.e. on public land)? The lessee contracted for the improvements which
were required by the lease agreement. The only authority I have found
is Section 8.3 of the Fla. Prac. Construction Law Manual which states in
the first paragraph, in part: "However, there may be private leasehold
interests on governmental property that are lienable." I have found no
other authority.
Rafael A. Perez
Board Certified Construction Attorney
McArdle and Perez, P.A.
806 S. Douglas Road, Suite 625
Coral Gables, Florida 33134
305-442-2214
Fax 305-442-2291
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may open up to an E & O policy.
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Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 9:04 AM
To: RPPTL constructionlaw
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold
on public land
Hmm. Always viewed language added in 255.05(9) as, more or less, a
codification of Miorelli v Brevard and not so much directed to public
entity liability under Palm Beach v. Trinity, etc. Seems the S Ct
indirectly recognized as such in FDEP v. ContractPoint, 986/1260.
Anyway, have had to resort to Palm Beach/Trinity type actions on several
occasions in the recent past, alleging a cause against the public entity
for failure to comply with the "ministerial duties" imposed on it by
statute (to see that a compliant bond is recorded prior to
commencement). A few times I have brought them in cases where a bond
was apparently obtained by the prime but never recorded (prejudicing the
sub-subs & materialmen in getting notices to the proper parties). In my
view liability for the surety (and principal if solvent) was pretty
straightforward when Martin Paving "no recording/no reliance on notice
defenses" prevailed (overlooking common law bond rationale). Now that
liability on the 255.05 Bond count apparently turns on whether the
claimant was "prejudiced" by failure to record (American Home
Assurance), you almost have to add the additional count against the
public entity for failure to see that a compliant bond was recorded
under Palm Beach/Trinity.
When your on that path the attorneys for the entity have started taking
the position the Palm Beach/Trinity type claim is in tort for common law
negligence, with the significance being whether notice requirements and
liability limitations of 768.28 apply, and further, whether comparatives
under 768.81 (Fabre) come in. Usually they try to point fault at the
claimant, whatever "noticing" outfit the sub or materialman used to
serve their notices, and any other party that could have taken action to
avert notice failings. I have even had one where the public entity and
the prime contractor cross-claimed against each other, each claiming
that the other "promised to record the bond". Very murky process.
Experience suggest to me that much of it could be avoided if there was
provision in 255.05, akin to that in 713.23(1)(b) (imposing liability
against the "owner, contractor or surety" for failing to furnish a copy
of the bond on demand). I say this, because sub-subs and materialman
almost always get the "owner" right when serving their notices even if
they can't find the bond. The Notice to Owner/Contractor form
inevitably requests a copy of any bond (713.23/255.05 and 337.18). I
don't recall once in 28 years having seen a single instance in which any
party that received notice actually furnished a copy of the bond. Also,
(and as Mr. Leiby adroitly points out in his learned treatise),
searching for bonds in the public record is never easy where there are
no specifications to the clerk for indexing.
GTE
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On 2/6/2012 3:42 PM, kim.ashby@akerman.com wrote:
Fred, if you look closely at that case, it was the Commissioner's E&O
carrier (for operational activities) that was the liable party because
the Commissioners were protected by the same sovereign immunity. See
Palm Beach County v. Trinity Industries, Inc., 661 So. 2d 942 (Fla. 4th
DCA 1995).
Since that opinion was published, the legislature made the following
changes to section 255.05, specifically in adding section 255.05(9):
(9) On any public works project for which the public
authority requires a performance and payment bond, suits at law and in
equity may be brought and maintained by and against the public authority
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provisions of this section shall apply only to contracts entered into on
or after July 1, 1999.
See also
St. Augustine v. Brooks, 55 So. 2d 96 (Fla. 1951) (mechanic's lien will
not attach to property held and used by a municipality for public
purposes).
Just saying.
Kim
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There's also an old case out of north Florida holding county
commissioners PERSONALLY liable for failing to require a 255 bond!
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To: 'RPPTL constructionlaw'
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold
onpublic land
Why not enforce your bond remedy?
Note the first sentence of 255.05(1)(a); the recent amendments creating
existing language requires private party to obtain bond(s) for work that
private party contracts for as improvement to public property or a
Public Work . To understand better the meaning of the amendment, do
research on use of "public work"; that wording is not limited to "
public property" or there would be no disjunctive "or". A very early
case used "public work" as private property of a railroad that would
serve the public; that case did not deal with lien or bond, but it
illustrates how general "public work" means in current version of
statute. A more interesting issue is defining the remedy for
non-compliance against the public body or the private party that failed
to obtain bonds. In some past cases the commissioners or council members
were liable to person or entity that by law had right to rely upon
existence of the required bonds. Who was advising the public body; the
private party. Does the license or lease have an indemnity clause in
favor of public entity? Have fun.
JG Thresher
813-229-7744
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Can you send a copy of the Order on your motion for SJ?
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L. Capps
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 4:34 PM
To: RPPTL constructionlaw
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold
onpublic land
Steve Pickert and I had such a case many years ago, wherein the City of
Coral Springs entered into a renewable "Concession Agreement" (i.e., a
lease) for a private party to build an ice-skating rink on City
property. Under the Concession Agreement, the concessionaire/lessee
actually owned the improvements subject to the City's reversionary
interest at the conclusion of the lease. The concessionaire/lessee
didn't pay the contractor and, in fact, sold its interest during
construction. The contractor, our client, recorded a lien against the
property, and both the concessionaire/lessee and the purchaser said the
property was not lienable. We moved for and were granted summary
judgment in our favor on that issue. Attached is the motion/brief,
which is a matter of public record and may be helpful. Presumably much
of the law has changed/evolved over the past 14 or so years.
Bryan Capps
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Leiby
Sent: Thu 2/2/2012 3:44 PM
To: RPPTL constructionlaw
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold
onpublic land
The answer is in the definitions in 713.01 (and if you are referring to
8:3 of my book, it is set out there). The statutory reason that you
can't lien publicly owned property is because a governmental owner is
not within the definition of owner in 713.01. The definition of real
property also excludes governmentally owned property. This is intended
to keep governmentally owned property out of the lien law because a
government must usually go through an election to subject public owned
property to liens, e.g., financing bond issues.
An owner is also defined as one having an interest in the property and
who enters into a contract for the improvement of the real property.
Thus there is no reason that you cannot have a lien on a private
leasehold interest that sits on public property. You want to be careful
when you prepare the lien to only seek it against the leasehold. Also a
lien on a leasehold is typically only as valuable as the tenant is
collectable.
Go get em.
Larry R. Leiby, Esq.
Malka & Kravitz, P.A.
1300 Sawgrass Corp. Pkwy., Suite 100
Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33323
Phone: 954-514-0984
Fax: 954-514-0985
e-mail: leiby@mkpalaw.com
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Fla. S. Ct. Certified Circuit Court Civil Mediator
Fellow, College of Commercial Arbitrators
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Rafael Perez
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 2:56 PM
To: constructionlaw@lists.flabarrpptl.org
Subject: [RPPTL-construction law] 713.10 lien for private leasehold on
public land
Does anyone have any authority for a construction lien on a leasehold
where the lessee is a private party but the lessor is a municipality
(i.e. on public land)? The lessee contracted for the improvements which
were required by the lease agreement. The only authority I have found
is Section 8.3 of the Fla. Prac. Construction Law Manual which states in
the first paragraph, in part: "However, there may be private leasehold
interests on governmental property that are lienable." I have found no
other authority.
Rafael A. Perez
Board Certified Construction Attorney
McArdle and Perez, P.A.
806 S. Douglas Road, Suite 625
Coral Gables, Florida 33134
305-442-2214
Fax 305-442-2291
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It occurs to me that the local government’s “public records” should shed some light on any attempt to “slice and dice” as you describe it; otherwise, it may be hard to prove.
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Yes, I know about Glens Falls. (I love that case). I have a dec action pending with a Prime Contract that well exceeds the threshold, but where the individual projects thereunder were less than $200K each (after they deducted the DPO’s-change orders). Hence the “slice and dice” question.
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The case I was referring to is Warren, Governor for Use and Benefit of Hughes Supply Co., Inc. vs. Glens Falls Indemnity Co., 66 So. 2d 54 (Fla. 1953) and 74 So. 2d 888 (Fla. 1954), in which liability was found against the statutory surety bonds of school board members who had failed to require a s. 255 bond. I used this case in Lee County to effect a $50,000 settlement against five (5) county commissioners each of who had posted the then required statutory $10,000 surety bonds (maybe since repealed?).
P. S. I was a mere child when Warren was Governor and this case was decided! A really old lawyer told me about it!
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Fred, if you look closely at that case, it was the Commissioner's E&O carrier (for operational activities) that was the liable party because the Commissioners were protected by the same sovereign immunity. See Palm Beach County v. Trinity Industries, Inc., 661 So. 2d 942 (Fla. 4th DCA 1995).
Since that opinion was published, the legislature made the following changes to section 255.05, specifically in adding section 255.05(9):
(9) On any public works project for which the public authority requires a performance and payment bond, suits at law and in equity may be brought and maintained by and against the public authority on any contract claim arising from a breach of an express provision or an implied covenant of a written agreement or a written directive issued by the public authority pursuant to the written agreement. in any such suit, the public authority and the contractor shall have all of the same rights and obligations as a private person under a like contract except that no liability may be based on an oral modification of either the written contract or written directive. Nothing herein shall be construed to waive the sovereign immunity of the state and its political subdivisions from equitable claims and equitable remedies. The provisions of this section shall apply only to contracts entered into on or after July 1, 1999.
See also
St. Augustine v. Brooks, 55 So. 2d 96 (Fla. 1951) (mechanic's lien will not attach to property held and used by a municipality for public purposes).
Just saying.
Kim
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There’s also an old case out of north Florida holding county commissioners PERSONALLY liable for failing to require a 255 bond!
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Why not enforce your bond remedy?
Note the first sentence of 255.05(1)(a); the recent amendments creating existing language requires private party to obtain bond(s) for work that private party contracts for as improvement to public property or a Public Work . To understand better the meaning of the amendment, do research on use of “public work”; that wording is not limited to “ public property” or there would be no disjunctive “or”. A very early case used “public work” as private property of a railroad that would serve the public; that case did not deal with lien or bond, but it illustrates how general “public work” means in current version of statute. A more interesting issue is defining the remedy for non-compliance against the public body or the private party that failed to obtain bonds. In some past cases the commissioners or council members were liable to person or entity that by law had right to rely upon existence of the required bonds. Who was advising the public body; the private party. Does the license or lease have an indemnity clause in favor of public entity? Have fun.
JG Thresher
813-229-7744
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Can you send a copy of the Order on your motion for SJ?
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Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold onpublic land
Steve Pickert and I had such a case many years ago, wherein the City of Coral Springs entered into a renewable "Concession Agreement" (i.e., a lease) for a private party to build an ice-skating rink on City property. Under the Concession Agreement, the concessionaire/lessee actually owned the improvements subject to the City's reversionary interest at the conclusion of the lease. The concessionaire/lessee didn't pay the contractor and, in fact, sold its interest during construction. The contractor, our client, recorded a lien against the property, and both the concessionaire/lessee and the purchaser said the property was not lienable. We moved for and were granted summary judgment in our favor on that issue. Attached is the motion/brief, which is a matter of public record and may be helpful. Presumably much of the law has changed/evolved over the past 14 or so years.
Bryan Capps
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Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold onpublic land
The answer is in the definitions in 713.01 (and if you are referring to 8:3 of my book, it is set out there). The statutory reason that you can’t lien publicly owned property is because a governmental owner is not within the definition of owner in 713.01. The definition of real property also excludes governmentally owned property. This is intended to keep governmentally owned property out of the lien law because a government must usually go through an election to subject public owned property to liens, e.g., financing bond issues.
An owner is also defined as one having an interest in the property and who enters into a contract for the improvement of the real property. Thus there is no reason that you cannot have a lien on a private leasehold interest that sits on public property. You want to be careful when you prepare the lien to only seek it against the leasehold. Also a lien on a leasehold is typically only as valuable as the tenant is collectable.
Go get em.
Larry R. Leiby, Esq.
Malka & Kravitz, P.A.
1300 Sawgrass Corp. Pkwy., Suite 100
Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33323
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Fax: 954-514-0985
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Subject: [RPPTL-construction law] 713.10 lien for private leasehold on public land
Does anyone have any authority for a construction lien on a leasehold where the lessee is a private party but the lessor is a municipality (i.e. on public land)? The lessee contracted for the improvements which were required by the lease agreement. The only authority I have found is Section 8.3 of the Fla. Prac. Construction Law Manual which states in the first paragraph, in part: “However, there may be private leasehold interests on governmental property that are lienable.” I have found no other authority.
Rafael A. Perez
Board Certified Construction Attorney
McArdle and Perez, P.A.
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It occurs to me that the local government’s “public records” should shed some light on any attempt to “slice and dice” as you describe it; otherwise, it may be hard to prove.
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Yes, I know about Glens Falls. (I love that case). I have a dec action pending with a Prime Contract that well exceeds the threshold, but where the individual projects thereunder were less than $200K each (after they deducted the DPO’s-change orders). Hence the “slice and dice” question.
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The case I was referring to is Warren, Governor for Use and Benefit of Hughes Supply Co., Inc. vs. Glens Falls Indemnity Co., 66 So. 2d 54 (Fla. 1953) and 74 So. 2d 888 (Fla. 1954), in which liability was found against the statutory surety bonds of school board members who had failed to require a s. 255 bond. I used this case in Lee County to effect a $50,000 settlement against five (5) county commissioners each of who had posted the then required statutory $10,000 surety bonds (maybe since repealed?).
P. S. I was a mere child when Warren was Governor and this case was decided! A really old lawyer told me about it!
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Fred, if you look closely at that case, it was the Commissioner's E&O carrier (for operational activities) that was the liable party because the Commissioners were protected by the same sovereign immunity. See Palm Beach County v. Trinity Industries, Inc., 661 So. 2d 942 (Fla. 4th DCA 1995).
Since that opinion was published, the legislature made the following changes to section 255.05, specifically in adding section 255.05(9):
(9) On any public works project for which the public authority requires a performance and payment bond, suits at law and in equity may be brought and maintained by and against the public authority on any contract claim arising from a breach of an express provision or an implied covenant of a written agreement or a written directive issued by the public authority pursuant to the written agreement. in any such suit, the public authority and the contractor shall have all of the same rights and obligations as a private person under a like contract except that no liability may be based on an oral modification of either the written contract or written directive. Nothing herein shall be construed to waive the sovereign immunity of the state and its political subdivisions from equitable claims and equitable remedies. The provisions of this section shall apply only to contracts entered into on or after July 1, 1999.
See also
St. Augustine v. Brooks, 55 So. 2d 96 (Fla. 1951) (mechanic's lien will not attach to property held and used by a municipality for public purposes).
Just saying.
Kim
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Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold onpublic land
There’s also an old case out of north Florida holding county commissioners PERSONALLY liable for failing to require a 255 bond!
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315 South Calhoun Street, Suite 600 | Tallahassee FL 32301
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Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 2:44 PM
To: 'RPPTL constructionlaw'
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold onpublic land
Why not enforce your bond remedy?
Note the first sentence of 255.05(1)(a); the recent amendments creating existing language requires private party to obtain bond(s) for work that private party contracts for as improvement to public property or a Public Work . To understand better the meaning of the amendment, do research on use of “public work”; that wording is not limited to “ public property” or there would be no disjunctive “or”. A very early case used “public work” as private property of a railroad that would serve the public; that case did not deal with lien or bond, but it illustrates how general “public work” means in current version of statute. A more interesting issue is defining the remedy for non-compliance against the public body or the private party that failed to obtain bonds. In some past cases the commissioners or council members were liable to person or entity that by law had right to rely upon existence of the required bonds. Who was advising the public body; the private party. Does the license or lease have an indemnity clause in favor of public entity? Have fun.
JG Thresher
813-229-7744
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Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold onpublic land
Can you send a copy of the Order on your motion for SJ?
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Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 4:34 PM
To: RPPTL constructionlaw
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold onpublic land
Steve Pickert and I had such a case many years ago, wherein the City of Coral Springs entered into a renewable "Concession Agreement" (i.e., a lease) for a private party to build an ice-skating rink on City property. Under the Concession Agreement, the concessionaire/lessee actually owned the improvements subject to the City's reversionary interest at the conclusion of the lease. The concessionaire/lessee didn't pay the contractor and, in fact, sold its interest during construction. The contractor, our client, recorded a lien against the property, and both the concessionaire/lessee and the purchaser said the property was not lienable. We moved for and were granted summary judgment in our favor on that issue. Attached is the motion/brief, which is a matter of public record and may be helpful. Presumably much of the law has changed/evolved over the past 14 or so years.
Bryan Capps
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Sent: Thu 2/2/2012 3:44 PM
To: RPPTL constructionlaw
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold onpublic land
The answer is in the definitions in 713.01 (and if you are referring to 8:3 of my book, it is set out there). The statutory reason that you can’t lien publicly owned property is because a governmental owner is not within the definition of owner in 713.01. The definition of real property also excludes governmentally owned property. This is intended to keep governmentally owned property out of the lien law because a government must usually go through an election to subject public owned property to liens, e.g., financing bond issues.
An owner is also defined as one having an interest in the property and who enters into a contract for the improvement of the real property. Thus there is no reason that you cannot have a lien on a private leasehold interest that sits on public property. You want to be careful when you prepare the lien to only seek it against the leasehold. Also a lien on a leasehold is typically only as valuable as the tenant is collectable.
Go get em.
Larry R. Leiby, Esq.
Malka & Kravitz, P.A.
1300 Sawgrass Corp. Pkwy., Suite 100
Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33323
Phone: 954-514-0984
Fax: 954-514-0985
e-mail: leiby@mkpalaw.com<mailto:leiby@mkpalaw.com>
Board Certified in Construction Law
Fla. S. Ct. Certified Circuit Court Civil Mediator
Fellow, College of Commercial Arbitrators
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Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 2:56 PM
To: constructionlaw@lists.flabarrpptl.org<mailto:constructionlaw@lists.flabarrpptl.org>
Subject: [RPPTL-construction law] 713.10 lien for private leasehold on public land
Does anyone have any authority for a construction lien on a leasehold where the lessee is a private party but the lessor is a municipality (i.e. on public land)? The lessee contracted for the improvements which were required by the lease agreement. The only authority I have found is Section 8.3 of the Fla. Prac. Construction Law Manual which states in the first paragraph, in part: “However, there may be private leasehold interests on governmental property that are lienable.” I have found no other authority.
Rafael A. Perez
Board Certified Construction Attorney
McArdle and Perez, P.A.
806 S. Douglas Road, Suite 625
Coral Gables, Florida 33134
305-442-2214
Fax 305-442-2291
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Tue, Feb 7, 2012 5:05 PM
It’s like searching for a needle in a haystack. At this point, the Court will have to decide whether the bond threshold is based upon the contract as a whole, or the individual projects thereunder. There doesn’t seem to be any law on this specific issue.
Tracye K. Solove, Attorney at Law
Certified Civil Circuit Mediator
Tracye@solovelawfirm.com
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12002 Southwest 128th Court
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Miami, Florida 33186
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It occurs to me that the local government’s “public records” should shed some light on any attempt to “slice and dice” as you describe it; otherwise, it may be hard to prove.
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Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 4:28 PM
To: RPPTL constructionlaw
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold on public land
Yes, I know about Glens Falls. (I love that case). I have a dec action pending with a Prime Contract that well exceeds the threshold, but where the individual projects thereunder were less than $200K each (after they deducted the DPO’s-change orders). Hence the “slice and dice” question.
Tracye K. Solove, Attorney at Law
Certified Civil Circuit Mediator
Tracye@solovelawfirm.com
Kendallwood Office Park One
12002 Southwest 128th Court
Suite 201
Miami, Florida 33186
Phone: (305) 612-0800
Facsimile: (305) 612-0801
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Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold on public land
The case I was referring to is Warren, Governor for Use and Benefit of Hughes Supply Co., Inc. vs. Glens Falls Indemnity Co., 66 So. 2d 54 (Fla. 1953) and 74 So. 2d 888 (Fla. 1954), in which liability was found against the statutory surety bonds of school board members who had failed to require a s. 255 bond. I used this case in Lee County to effect a $50,000 settlement against five (5) county commissioners each of who had posted the then required statutory $10,000 surety bonds (maybe since repealed?).
P. S. I was a mere child when Warren was Governor and this case was decided! A really old lawyer told me about it!
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Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 3:43 PM
To: constructionlaw@lists.flabarrpptl.org
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold on public land
Fred, if you look closely at that case, it was the Commissioner's E&O carrier (for operational activities) that was the liable party because the Commissioners were protected by the same sovereign immunity. See Palm Beach County v. Trinity Industries, Inc., 661 So. 2d 942 (Fla. 4th DCA 1995).
Since that opinion was published, the legislature made the following changes to section 255.05, specifically in adding section 255.05(9):
(9) On any public works project for which the public authority requires a performance and payment bond, suits at law and in equity may be brought and maintained by and against the public authority on any contract claim arising from a breach of an express provision or an implied covenant of a written agreement or a written directive issued by the public authority pursuant to the written agreement. in any such suit, the public authority and the contractor shall have all of the same rights and obligations as a private person under a like contract except that no liability may be based on an oral modification of either the written contract or written directive. Nothing herein shall be construed to waive the sovereign immunity of the state and its political subdivisions from equitable claims and equitable remedies. The provisions of this section shall apply only to contracts entered into on or after July 1, 1999.
See also
St. Augustine v. Brooks, 55 So. 2d 96 (Fla. 1951) (mechanic's lien will not attach to property held and used by a municipality for public purposes).
Just saying.
Kim
Kimberly A. Ashby
Board Certified in Appellate Law and Construction Law
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There’s also an old case out of north Florida holding county commissioners PERSONALLY liable for failing to require a 255 bond!
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Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 2:44 PM
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Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold onpublic land
Why not enforce your bond remedy?
Note the first sentence of 255.05(1)(a); the recent amendments creating existing language requires private party to obtain bond(s) for work that private party contracts for as improvement to public property or a Public Work . To understand better the meaning of the amendment, do research on use of “public work”; that wording is not limited to “ public property” or there would be no disjunctive “or”. A very early case used “public work” as private property of a railroad that would serve the public; that case did not deal with lien or bond, but it illustrates how general “public work” means in current version of statute. A more interesting issue is defining the remedy for non-compliance against the public body or the private party that failed to obtain bonds. In some past cases the commissioners or council members were liable to person or entity that by law had right to rely upon existence of the required bonds. Who was advising the public body; the private party. Does the license or lease have an indemnity clause in favor of public entity? Have fun.
JG Thresher
813-229-7744
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Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold onpublic land
Can you send a copy of the Order on your motion for SJ?
Frederick Dudley | Holland & Knight
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315 South Calhoun Street, Suite 600 | Tallahassee FL 32301
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Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 4:34 PM
To: RPPTL constructionlaw
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold onpublic land
Steve Pickert and I had such a case many years ago, wherein the City of Coral Springs entered into a renewable "Concession Agreement" (i.e., a lease) for a private party to build an ice-skating rink on City property. Under the Concession Agreement, the concessionaire/lessee actually owned the improvements subject to the City's reversionary interest at the conclusion of the lease. The concessionaire/lessee didn't pay the contractor and, in fact, sold its interest during construction. The contractor, our client, recorded a lien against the property, and both the concessionaire/lessee and the purchaser said the property was not lienable. We moved for and were granted summary judgment in our favor on that issue. Attached is the motion/brief, which is a matter of public record and may be helpful. Presumably much of the law has changed/evolved over the past 14 or so years.
Bryan Capps
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Sent: Thu 2/2/2012 3:44 PM
To: RPPTL constructionlaw
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold onpublic land
The answer is in the definitions in 713.01 (and if you are referring to 8:3 of my book, it is set out there). The statutory reason that you can’t lien publicly owned property is because a governmental owner is not within the definition of owner in 713.01. The definition of real property also excludes governmentally owned property. This is intended to keep governmentally owned property out of the lien law because a government must usually go through an election to subject public owned property to liens, e.g., financing bond issues.
An owner is also defined as one having an interest in the property and who enters into a contract for the improvement of the real property. Thus there is no reason that you cannot have a lien on a private leasehold interest that sits on public property. You want to be careful when you prepare the lien to only seek it against the leasehold. Also a lien on a leasehold is typically only as valuable as the tenant is collectable.
Go get em.
Larry R. Leiby, Esq.
Malka & Kravitz, P.A.
1300 Sawgrass Corp. Pkwy., Suite 100
Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33323
Phone: 954-514-0984
Fax: 954-514-0985
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Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 2:56 PM
To: constructionlaw@lists.flabarrpptl.org
Subject: [RPPTL-construction law] 713.10 lien for private leasehold on public land
Does anyone have any authority for a construction lien on a leasehold where the lessee is a private party but the lessor is a municipality (i.e. on public land)? The lessee contracted for the improvements which were required by the lease agreement. The only authority I have found is Section 8.3 of the Fla. Prac. Construction Law Manual which states in the first paragraph, in part: “However, there may be private leasehold interests on governmental property that are lienable.” I have found no other authority.
Rafael A. Perez
Board Certified Construction Attorney
McArdle and Perez, P.A.
806 S. Douglas Road, Suite 625
Coral Gables, Florida 33134
305-442-2214
Fax 305-442-2291
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It’s like searching for a needle in a haystack. At this point, the Court will have to decide whether the bond threshold is based upon the contract as a whole, or the individual projects thereunder. There doesn’t seem to be any law on this specific issue.
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Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leaseholdon public land
It occurs to me that the local government’s “public records” should shed some light on any attempt to “slice and dice” as you describe it; otherwise, it may be hard to prove.
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From: constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Tracye
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 4:28 PM
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Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold on public land
Yes, I know about Glens Falls. (I love that case). I have a dec action pending with a Prime Contract that well exceeds the threshold, but where the individual projects thereunder were less than $200K each (after they deducted the DPO’s-change orders). Hence the “slice and dice” question.
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Certified Civil Circuit Mediator
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Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold on public land
The case I was referring to is Warren, Governor for Use and Benefit of Hughes Supply Co., Inc. vs. Glens Falls Indemnity Co., 66 So. 2d 54 (Fla. 1953) and 74 So. 2d 888 (Fla. 1954), in which liability was found against the statutory surety bonds of school board members who had failed to require a s. 255 bond. I used this case in Lee County to effect a $50,000 settlement against five (5) county commissioners each of who had posted the then required statutory $10,000 surety bonds (maybe since repealed?).
P. S. I was a mere child when Warren was Governor and this case was decided! A really old lawyer told me about it!
Frederick Dudley | Holland & Knight
Board Certified Construction Lawyer
315 South Calhoun Street, Suite 600 | Tallahassee FL 32301
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From: constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of kim.ashby@akerman.com
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 3:43 PM
To: constructionlaw@lists.flabarrpptl.org
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold on public land
Fred, if you look closely at that case, it was the Commissioner's E&O carrier (for operational activities) that was the liable party because the Commissioners were protected by the same sovereign immunity. See Palm Beach County v. Trinity Industries, Inc., 661 So. 2d 942 (Fla. 4th DCA 1995).
Since that opinion was published, the legislature made the following changes to section 255.05, specifically in adding section 255.05(9):
(9) On any public works project for which the public authority requires a performance and payment bond, suits at law and in equity may be brought and maintained by and against the public authority on any contract claim arising from a breach of an express provision or an implied covenant of a written agreement or a written directive issued by the public authority pursuant to the written agreement. in any such suit, the public authority and the contractor shall have all of the same rights and obligations as a private person under a like contract except that no liability may be based on an oral modification of either the written contract or written directive. Nothing herein shall be construed to waive the sovereign immunity of the state and its political subdivisions from equitable claims and equitable remedies. The provisions of this section shall apply only to contracts entered into on or after July 1, 1999.
See also
St. Augustine v. Brooks, 55 So. 2d 96 (Fla. 1951) (mechanic's lien will not attach to property held and used by a municipality for public purposes).
Just saying.
Kim
Kimberly A. Ashby
Board Certified in Appellate Law and Construction Law
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To: constructionlaw@lists.flabarrpptl.org
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold onpublic land
There’s also an old case out of north Florida holding county commissioners PERSONALLY liable for failing to require a 255 bond!
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315 South Calhoun Street, Suite 600 | Tallahassee FL 32301
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Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 2:44 PM
To: 'RPPTL constructionlaw'
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold onpublic land
Why not enforce your bond remedy?
Note the first sentence of 255.05(1)(a); the recent amendments creating existing language requires private party to obtain bond(s) for work that private party contracts for as improvement to public property or a Public Work . To understand better the meaning of the amendment, do research on use of “public work”; that wording is not limited to “ public property” or there would be no disjunctive “or”. A very early case used “public work” as private property of a railroad that would serve the public; that case did not deal with lien or bond, but it illustrates how general “public work” means in current version of statute. A more interesting issue is defining the remedy for non-compliance against the public body or the private party that failed to obtain bonds. In some past cases the commissioners or council members were liable to person or entity that by law had right to rely upon existence of the required bonds. Who was advising the public body; the private party. Does the license or lease have an indemnity clause in favor of public entity? Have fun.
JG Thresher
813-229-7744
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Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 2:25 PM
To: constructionlaw@lists.flabarrpptl.org
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold onpublic land
Can you send a copy of the Order on your motion for SJ?
Frederick Dudley | Holland & Knight
Board Certified Construction Lawyer
315 South Calhoun Street, Suite 600 | Tallahassee FL 32301
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Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 4:34 PM
To: RPPTL constructionlaw
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold onpublic land
Steve Pickert and I had such a case many years ago, wherein the City of Coral Springs entered into a renewable "Concession Agreement" (i.e., a lease) for a private party to build an ice-skating rink on City property. Under the Concession Agreement, the concessionaire/lessee actually owned the improvements subject to the City's reversionary interest at the conclusion of the lease. The concessionaire/lessee didn't pay the contractor and, in fact, sold its interest during construction. The contractor, our client, recorded a lien against the property, and both the concessionaire/lessee and the purchaser said the property was not lienable. We moved for and were granted summary judgment in our favor on that issue. Attached is the motion/brief, which is a matter of public record and may be helpful. Presumably much of the law has changed/evolved over the past 14 or so years.
Bryan Capps
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From: constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org on behalf of Larry Leiby
Sent: Thu 2/2/2012 3:44 PM
To: RPPTL constructionlaw
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold onpublic land
The answer is in the definitions in 713.01 (and if you are referring to 8:3 of my book, it is set out there). The statutory reason that you can’t lien publicly owned property is because a governmental owner is not within the definition of owner in 713.01. The definition of real property also excludes governmentally owned property. This is intended to keep governmentally owned property out of the lien law because a government must usually go through an election to subject public owned property to liens, e.g., financing bond issues.
An owner is also defined as one having an interest in the property and who enters into a contract for the improvement of the real property. Thus there is no reason that you cannot have a lien on a private leasehold interest that sits on public property. You want to be careful when you prepare the lien to only seek it against the leasehold. Also a lien on a leasehold is typically only as valuable as the tenant is collectable.
Go get em.
Larry R. Leiby, Esq.
Malka & Kravitz, P.A.
1300 Sawgrass Corp. Pkwy., Suite 100
Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33323
Phone: 954-514-0984
Fax: 954-514-0985
e-mail: leiby@mkpalaw.com
Board Certified in Construction Law
Fla. S. Ct. Certified Circuit Court Civil Mediator
Fellow, College of Commercial Arbitrators
From: constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Rafael Perez
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 2:56 PM
To: constructionlaw@lists.flabarrpptl.org
Subject: [RPPTL-construction law] 713.10 lien for private leasehold on public land
Does anyone have any authority for a construction lien on a leasehold where the lessee is a private party but the lessor is a municipality (i.e. on public land)? The lessee contracted for the improvements which were required by the lease agreement. The only authority I have found is Section 8.3 of the Fla. Prac. Construction Law Manual which states in the first paragraph, in part: “However, there may be private leasehold interests on governmental property that are lienable.” I have found no other authority.
Rafael A. Perez
Board Certified Construction Attorney
McArdle and Perez, P.A.
806 S. Douglas Road, Suite 625
Coral Gables, Florida 33134
305-442-2214
Fax 305-442-2291
rperez@mcper.com
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Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:07 PM
My apologies Tracye. . . I had not actually looked at the string, my
interest was just piqued by Ms. Ashby's discussion. Particular to your
question, I suspect you have already made your way through the cases
dealing with "bid splitting" and "piggybacking" in an effort by by the
public procuring agent to avoid putting a job out to competitive
bidding, i.e., Mayes v Flowers, 154/859. Doesn't get you there, but
maybe a foot in the door.
G. Elliott
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On 2/7/2012 10:10 AM, Tracye wrote:
Thank you Greg for the thoughts. The tort route is a long road, but it
may open up to an E & O policy.
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Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private
leasehold on public land
Hmm. Always viewed language added in 255.05(9) as, more or less, a
codification of Miorelli v Brevard and not so much directed to public
entity liability under Palm Beach v. Trinity, etc. Seems the S Ct
indirectly recognized as such in FDEP v. ContractPoint, 986/1260.
Anyway, have had to resort to Palm Beach/Trinity type actions on
several occasions in the recent past, alleging a cause against the
public entity for failure to comply with the "ministerial duties"
imposed on it by statute (to see that a compliant bond is recorded
prior to commencement). A few times I have brought them in cases
where a bond was apparently obtained by the prime but never recorded
(prejudicing the sub-subs & materialmen in getting notices to the
proper parties). In my view liability for the surety (and principal
if solvent) was pretty straightforward when Martin Paving "no
recording/no reliance on notice defenses" prevailed (overlooking
common law bond rationale). Now that liability on the 255.05 Bond
count apparently turns on whether the claimant was "prejudiced" by
failure to record (American Home Assurance), you almost have to add
the additional count against the public entity for failure to see that
a compliant bond was recorded under Palm Beach/Trinity.
When your on that path the attorneys for the entity have started
taking the position the Palm Beach/Trinity type claim is in tort for
common law negligence, with the significance being whether notice
requirements and liability limitations of 768.28 apply, and further,
whether comparatives under 768.81 (Fabre) come in. Usually they try
to point fault at the claimant, whatever "noticing" outfit the sub or
materialman used to serve their notices, and any other party that
could have taken action to avert notice failings. I have even had one
where the public entity and the prime contractor cross-claimed against
each other, each claiming that the other "promised to record the
bond". Very murky process.
Experience suggest to me that much of it could be avoided if there was
provision in 255.05, akin to that in 713.23(1)(b) (imposing liability
against the "owner, contractor or surety" for failing to furnish a
copy of the bond on demand). I say this, because sub-subs and
materialman almost always get the "owner" right when serving their
notices even if they can't find the bond. The Notice to
Owner/Contractor form inevitably requests a copy of any bond
(713.23/255.05 and 337.18). I don't recall once in 28 years having
seen a single instance in which any party that received notice
actually furnished a copy of the bond. Also, (and as Mr. Leiby
adroitly points out in his learned treatise), searching for bonds in
the public record is never easy where there are no specifications to
the clerk for indexing.
GTE
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On 2/6/2012 3:42 PM, kim.ashby@akerman.com
mailto:kim.ashby@akerman.com wrote:
Fred, if you look closely at that case, it was the Commissioner's E&O
carrier (for operational activities) that was the liable party because
the Commissioners were protected by the same sovereign immunity. See
/Palm Beach County v. Trinity Industries, Inc./, 661 So. 2d 942 (Fla.
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Since that opinion was published, the legislature made the following
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(9) On any public works project for which the public
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/See also/
/St. Augustine v. Brooks,/55 So. 2d 96 (Fla. 1951) (mechanic's lien
will not attach to property held and used by a municipality for public
purposes).
Just saying.
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Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private
leasehold onpublic land
There's also an old case out of north Florida holding county
commissioners PERSONALLY liable for failing to require a 255 bond!
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Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private
leasehold onpublic land
Why not enforce your bond remedy?
Note the first sentence of 255.05(1)(a); the recent amendments
creating existing language requires private party to obtain bond(s)
for work that private party contracts for as improvement to public
property or a Public Work . To understand better the meaning of the
amendment, do research on use of "public work"; that wording is not
limited to " public property" or there would be no disjunctive "or". A
very early case used "public work" as private property of a railroad
that would serve the public; that case did not deal with lien or bond,
but it illustrates how general "public work" means in current version
of statute. A more interesting issue is defining the remedy for
non-compliance against the public body or the private party that
failed to obtain bonds. In some past cases the commissioners or
council members were liable to person or entity that by law had right
to rely upon existence of the required bonds. Who was advising the
public body; the private party. Does the license or lease have an
indemnity clause in favor of public entity? Have fun.
JG Thresher
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Can you send a copy of the Order on your motion for SJ?
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Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private
leasehold onpublic land
Steve Pickert and I had such a case many years ago, wherein the City
of Coral Springs entered into a renewable "Concession Agreement"
(i.e., a lease) for a private party to build an ice-skating rink on
City property. Under the Concession Agreement,
the concessionaire/lessee actually owned the improvements subject to
the City's reversionary interest at the conclusion of the lease. The
concessionaire/lessee didn't pay the contractor and, in fact, sold its
interest during construction. The contractor, our client, recorded a
lien against the property, and both the concessionaire/lessee and the
purchaser said the property was not lienable. We moved for and were
granted summary judgment in our favor on that issue. Attached is the
motion/brief, which is a matter of public record and may be helpful.
Presumably much of the law has changed/evolved over the past 14 or so
years.
Bryan Capps
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To: RPPTL constructionlaw
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private
leasehold onpublic land
The answer is in the definitions in 713.01 (and if you are referring
to 8:3 of my book, it is set out there). The statutory reason that
you can't lien publicly owned property is because a governmental owner
is not within the definition of owner in 713.01. The definition of
real property also excludes governmentally owned property. This is
intended to keep governmentally owned property out of the lien law
because a government must usually go through an election to subject
public owned property to liens, e.g., financing bond issues.
An owner is also defined as one having an interest in the property and
who enters into a contract for the improvement of the real property.
Thus there is no reason that you cannot have a lien on a private
leasehold interest that sits on public property. You want to be
careful when you prepare the lien to only seek it against the
leasehold. Also a lien on a leasehold is typically only as valuable
as the tenant is collectable.
Go get em.
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Subject: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold
on public land
Does anyone have any authority for a construction lien on a leasehold
where the lessee is a private party but the lessor is a municipality
(i.e. on public land)? The lessee contracted for the improvements
which were required by the lease agreement. The only authority I have
found is Section 8.3 of the Fla. Prac. Construction Law Manual which
states in the first paragraph, in part: "However, there may be private
leasehold interests on governmental property that are lienable." I
have found no other authority.
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My apologies Tracye. . . I had not actually looked at the string, my
interest was just piqued by Ms. Ashby's discussion. Particular to your
question, I suspect you have already made your way through the cases
dealing with "bid splitting" and "piggybacking" in an effort by by the
public procuring agent to avoid putting a job out to competitive
bidding, i.e., Mayes v Flowers, 154/859. Doesn't get you there, but
maybe a foot in the door.
G. Elliott
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On 2/7/2012 10:10 AM, Tracye wrote:
>
> Thank you Greg for the thoughts. The tort route is a long road, but it
> may open up to an E & O policy.
>
> Logo
>
> Tracye K. Solove, Attorney at Law
>
> Certified Civil Circuit Mediator
>
> _Tracye@solovelawfirm.com_
>
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>
> 12002 Southwest 128th Court
>
> Suite 201
>
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> [mailto:constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] *On Behalf Of
> *Greg Elliott
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 07, 2012 9:04 AM
> *To:* RPPTL constructionlaw
> *Subject:* Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private
> leasehold on public land
>
> Hmm. Always viewed language added in 255.05(9) as, more or less, a
> codification of Miorelli v Brevard and not so much directed to public
> entity liability under Palm Beach v. Trinity, etc. Seems the S Ct
> indirectly recognized as such in FDEP v. ContractPoint, 986/1260.
>
> Anyway, have had to resort to Palm Beach/Trinity type actions on
> several occasions in the recent past, alleging a cause against the
> public entity for failure to comply with the "ministerial duties"
> imposed on it by statute (to see that a compliant bond is recorded
> prior to commencement). A few times I have brought them in cases
> where a bond was apparently obtained by the prime but never recorded
> (prejudicing the sub-subs & materialmen in getting notices to the
> proper parties). In my view liability for the surety (and principal
> if solvent) was pretty straightforward when Martin Paving "no
> recording/no reliance on notice defenses" prevailed (overlooking
> common law bond rationale). Now that liability on the 255.05 Bond
> count apparently turns on whether the claimant was "prejudiced" by
> failure to record (American Home Assurance), you almost have to add
> the additional count against the public entity for failure to see that
> a compliant bond was recorded under Palm Beach/Trinity.
>
> When your on that path the attorneys for the entity have started
> taking the position the Palm Beach/Trinity type claim is in tort for
> common law negligence, with the significance being whether notice
> requirements and liability limitations of 768.28 apply, and further,
> whether comparatives under 768.81 (Fabre) come in. Usually they try
> to point fault at the claimant, whatever "noticing" outfit the sub or
> materialman used to serve their notices, and any other party that
> could have taken action to avert notice failings. I have even had one
> where the public entity and the prime contractor cross-claimed against
> each other, each claiming that the other "promised to record the
> bond". Very murky process.
>
> Experience suggest to me that much of it could be avoided if there was
> provision in 255.05, akin to that in 713.23(1)(b) (imposing liability
> against the "owner, contractor or surety" for failing to furnish a
> copy of the bond on demand). I say this, because sub-subs and
> materialman almost always get the "owner" right when serving their
> notices even if they can't find the bond. The Notice to
> Owner/Contractor form inevitably requests a copy of any bond
> (713.23/255.05 and 337.18). I don't recall once in 28 years having
> seen a single instance in which any party that received notice
> actually furnished a copy of the bond. Also, (and as Mr. Leiby
> adroitly points out in his learned treatise), searching for bonds in
> the public record is never easy where there are no specifications to
> the clerk for indexing.
>
> GTE
>
> Gregory T. Elliott
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> On 2/6/2012 3:42 PM, kim.ashby@akerman.com
> <mailto:kim.ashby@akerman.com> wrote:
>
> Fred, if you look closely at that case, it was the Commissioner's E&O
> carrier (for operational activities) that was the liable party because
> the Commissioners were protected by the same sovereign immunity. See
> /Palm Beach County v. Trinity Industries, Inc./, 661 So. 2d 942 (Fla.
> 4th DCA 1995).//
>
> Since that opinion was published, the legislature made the following
> changes to section 255.05, specifically in adding section 255.05(9):
>
> (9) On any public works project for which the public
> authority requires a performance and payment bond, suits at law and in
> equity may be brought and maintained by and against the public
> authority on any contract claim arising from a breach of an express
> provision or an implied covenant of a written agreement or a written
> directive issued by the public authority pursuant to the written
> agreement. in any such suit, the public authority and the contractor
> shall have all of the same rights and obligations as a private person
> under a like contract except that no liability may be based on an oral
> modification of either the written contract or written directive.
> /Nothing herein shall be construed to waive the sovereign immunity of
> the state and its political subdivisions from equitable claims and
> equitable remedies. / The provisions of this section shall apply only
> to contracts entered into on or after July 1, 1999.
>
> /See also/
>
> /St. Augustine v. Brooks,/55 So. 2d 96 (Fla. 1951) (mechanic's lien
> will not attach to property held and used by a municipality for public
> purposes).
>
> Just saying.
>
> Kim
>
> *Kimberly A. Ashby*
>
> Board Certified in Appellate Law and Construction Law
>
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> FL 32801
>
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> *Subject:* Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private
> leasehold onpublic land
>
> There's also an old case out of north Florida holding county
> commissioners PERSONALLY liable for failing to require a 255 bond!
>
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> *Joseph G. Thresher
> *Sent:* Monday, February 06, 2012 2:44 PM
> *To:* 'RPPTL constructionlaw'
> *Subject:* Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private
> leasehold onpublic land
>
> Why not enforce your bond remedy?
>
> Note the first sentence of 255.05(1)(a); the recent amendments
> creating existing language requires private party to obtain bond(s)
> for work that private party contracts for as improvement to public
> property or a Public Work . To understand better the meaning of the
> amendment, do research on use of "public work"; that wording is not
> limited to " public property" or there would be no disjunctive "or". A
> very early case used "public work" as private property of a railroad
> that would serve the public; that case did not deal with lien or bond,
> but it illustrates how general "public work" means in current version
> of statute. A more interesting issue is defining the remedy for
> non-compliance against the public body or the private party that
> failed to obtain bonds. In some past cases the commissioners or
> council members were liable to person or entity that by law had right
> to rely upon existence of the required bonds. Who was advising the
> public body; the private party. Does the license or lease have an
> indemnity clause in favor of public entity? Have fun.
>
> JG Thresher
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> *Subject:* Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private
> leasehold onpublic land
>
> Can you send a copy of the Order on your motion for SJ?
>
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> *Sent:* Thursday, February 02, 2012 4:34 PM
> *To:* RPPTL constructionlaw
> *Subject:* Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private
> leasehold onpublic land
>
> Steve Pickert and I had such a case many years ago, wherein the City
> of Coral Springs entered into a renewable "Concession Agreement"
> (i.e., a lease) for a private party to build an ice-skating rink on
> City property. Under the Concession Agreement,
> the concessionaire/lessee actually owned the improvements subject to
> the City's reversionary interest at the conclusion of the lease. The
> concessionaire/lessee didn't pay the contractor and, in fact, sold its
> interest during construction. The contractor, our client, recorded a
> lien against the property, and both the concessionaire/lessee and the
> purchaser said the property was not lienable. We moved for and were
> granted summary judgment in our favor on that issue. Attached is the
> motion/brief, which is a matter of public record and may be helpful.
> Presumably much of the law has changed/evolved over the past 14 or so
> years.
>
> Bryan Capps
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> *Sent:* Thu 2/2/2012 3:44 PM
> *To:* RPPTL constructionlaw
> *Subject:* Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private
> leasehold onpublic land
>
> The answer is in the definitions in 713.01 (and if you are referring
> to 8:3 of my book, it is set out there). The statutory reason that
> you can't lien publicly owned property is because a governmental owner
> is not within the definition of owner in 713.01. The definition of
> real property also excludes governmentally owned property. This is
> intended to keep governmentally owned property out of the lien law
> because a government must usually go through an election to subject
> public owned property to liens, e.g., financing bond issues.
>
> An owner is also defined as one having an interest in the property and
> who enters into a contract for the improvement of the real property.
> Thus there is no reason that you cannot have a lien on a private
> leasehold interest that sits on public property. You want to be
> careful when you prepare the lien to only seek it against the
> leasehold. Also a lien on a leasehold is typically only as valuable
> as the tenant is collectable.
>
> Go get em.
>
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> *Subject:* [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold
> on public land
>
> Does anyone have any authority for a construction lien on a leasehold
> where the lessee is a private party but the lessor is a municipality
> (i.e. on public land)? The lessee contracted for the improvements
> which were required by the lease agreement. The only authority I have
> found is Section 8.3 of the Fla. Prac. Construction Law Manual which
> states in the first paragraph, in part: "However, there may be private
> leasehold interests on governmental property that are lienable." I
> have found no other authority.
>
> Rafael A. Perez
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Tracye
Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:28 PM
No apologies, since there does not appear to be anything on point, the
language in Mayes may at least be persuasive. Thank you MUCHO.
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[mailto:constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Greg
Elliott
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 1:08 PM
To: RPPTL constructionlaw
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold
on public land
My apologies Tracye. . . I had not actually looked at the string, my
interest was just piqued by Ms. Ashby's discussion. Particular to your
question, I suspect you have already made your way through the cases
dealing with "bid splitting" and "piggybacking" in an effort by by the
public procuring agent to avoid putting a job out to competitive
bidding, i.e., Mayes v Flowers, 154/859. Doesn't get you there, but
maybe a foot in the door.
G. Elliott
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On 2/7/2012 10:10 AM, Tracye wrote:
Thank you Greg for the thoughts. The tort route is a long road, but it
may open up to an E & O policy.
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mailto:constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Greg
Elliott
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 9:04 AM
To: RPPTL constructionlaw
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold
on public land
Hmm. Always viewed language added in 255.05(9) as, more or less, a
codification of Miorelli v Brevard and not so much directed to public
entity liability under Palm Beach v. Trinity, etc. Seems the S Ct
indirectly recognized as such in FDEP v. ContractPoint, 986/1260.
Anyway, have had to resort to Palm Beach/Trinity type actions on several
occasions in the recent past, alleging a cause against the public entity
for failure to comply with the "ministerial duties" imposed on it by
statute (to see that a compliant bond is recorded prior to
commencement). A few times I have brought them in cases where a bond
was apparently obtained by the prime but never recorded (prejudicing the
sub-subs & materialmen in getting notices to the proper parties). In my
view liability for the surety (and principal if solvent) was pretty
straightforward when Martin Paving "no recording/no reliance on notice
defenses" prevailed (overlooking common law bond rationale). Now that
liability on the 255.05 Bond count apparently turns on whether the
claimant was "prejudiced" by failure to record (American Home
Assurance), you almost have to add the additional count against the
public entity for failure to see that a compliant bond was recorded
under Palm Beach/Trinity.
When your on that path the attorneys for the entity have started taking
the position the Palm Beach/Trinity type claim is in tort for common law
negligence, with the significance being whether notice requirements and
liability limitations of 768.28 apply, and further, whether comparatives
under 768.81 (Fabre) come in. Usually they try to point fault at the
claimant, whatever "noticing" outfit the sub or materialman used to
serve their notices, and any other party that could have taken action to
avert notice failings. I have even had one where the public entity and
the prime contractor cross-claimed against each other, each claiming
that the other "promised to record the bond". Very murky process.
Experience suggest to me that much of it could be avoided if there was
provision in 255.05, akin to that in 713.23(1)(b) (imposing liability
against the "owner, contractor or surety" for failing to furnish a copy
of the bond on demand). I say this, because sub-subs and materialman
almost always get the "owner" right when serving their notices even if
they can't find the bond. The Notice to Owner/Contractor form
inevitably requests a copy of any bond (713.23/255.05 and 337.18). I
don't recall once in 28 years having seen a single instance in which any
party that received notice actually furnished a copy of the bond. Also,
(and as Mr. Leiby adroitly points out in his learned treatise),
searching for bonds in the public record is never easy where there are
no specifications to the clerk for indexing.
GTE
Gregory T. Elliott
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On 2/6/2012 3:42 PM, kim.ashby@akerman.com wrote:
Fred, if you look closely at that case, it was the Commissioner's E&O
carrier (for operational activities) that was the liable party because
the Commissioners were protected by the same sovereign immunity. See
Palm Beach County v. Trinity Industries, Inc., 661 So. 2d 942 (Fla. 4th
DCA 1995).
Since that opinion was published, the legislature made the following
changes to section 255.05, specifically in adding section 255.05(9):
(9) On any public works project for which the public
authority requires a performance and payment bond, suits at law and in
equity may be brought and maintained by and against the public authority
on any contract claim arising from a breach of an express provision or
an implied covenant of a written agreement or a written directive issued
by the public authority pursuant to the written agreement. in any such
suit, the public authority and the contractor shall have all of the same
rights and obligations as a private person under a like contract except
that no liability may be based on an oral modification of either the
written contract or written directive. Nothing herein shall be
construed to waive the sovereign immunity of the state and its political
subdivisions from equitable claims and equitable remedies. The
provisions of this section shall apply only to contracts entered into on
or after July 1, 1999.
See also
St. Augustine v. Brooks, 55 So. 2d 96 (Fla. 1951) (mechanic's lien will
not attach to property held and used by a municipality for public
purposes).
Just saying.
Kim
Kimberly A. Ashby
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Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 3:04 PM
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Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold
onpublic land
There's also an old case out of north Florida holding county
commissioners PERSONALLY liable for failing to require a 255 bond!
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Joseph G. Thresher
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 2:44 PM
To: 'RPPTL constructionlaw'
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold
onpublic land
Why not enforce your bond remedy?
Note the first sentence of 255.05(1)(a); the recent amendments creating
existing language requires private party to obtain bond(s) for work that
private party contracts for as improvement to public property or a
Public Work . To understand better the meaning of the amendment, do
research on use of "public work"; that wording is not limited to "
public property" or there would be no disjunctive "or". A very early
case used "public work" as private property of a railroad that would
serve the public; that case did not deal with lien or bond, but it
illustrates how general "public work" means in current version of
statute. A more interesting issue is defining the remedy for
non-compliance against the public body or the private party that failed
to obtain bonds. In some past cases the commissioners or council members
were liable to person or entity that by law had right to rely upon
existence of the required bonds. Who was advising the public body; the
private party. Does the license or lease have an indemnity clause in
favor of public entity? Have fun.
JG Thresher
813-229-7744
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Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold
onpublic land
Can you send a copy of the Order on your motion for SJ?
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mailto:constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Bryan
L. Capps
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 4:34 PM
To: RPPTL constructionlaw
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold
onpublic land
Steve Pickert and I had such a case many years ago, wherein the City of
Coral Springs entered into a renewable "Concession Agreement" (i.e., a
lease) for a private party to build an ice-skating rink on City
property. Under the Concession Agreement, the concessionaire/lessee
actually owned the improvements subject to the City's reversionary
interest at the conclusion of the lease. The concessionaire/lessee
didn't pay the contractor and, in fact, sold its interest during
construction. The contractor, our client, recorded a lien against the
property, and both the concessionaire/lessee and the purchaser said the
property was not lienable. We moved for and were granted summary
judgment in our favor on that issue. Attached is the motion/brief,
which is a matter of public record and may be helpful. Presumably much
of the law has changed/evolved over the past 14 or so years.
Bryan Capps
From: constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org on behalf of Larry
Leiby
Sent: Thu 2/2/2012 3:44 PM
To: RPPTL constructionlaw
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold
onpublic land
The answer is in the definitions in 713.01 (and if you are referring to
8:3 of my book, it is set out there). The statutory reason that you
can't lien publicly owned property is because a governmental owner is
not within the definition of owner in 713.01. The definition of real
property also excludes governmentally owned property. This is intended
to keep governmentally owned property out of the lien law because a
government must usually go through an election to subject public owned
property to liens, e.g., financing bond issues.
An owner is also defined as one having an interest in the property and
who enters into a contract for the improvement of the real property.
Thus there is no reason that you cannot have a lien on a private
leasehold interest that sits on public property. You want to be careful
when you prepare the lien to only seek it against the leasehold. Also a
lien on a leasehold is typically only as valuable as the tenant is
collectable.
Go get em.
Larry R. Leiby, Esq.
Malka & Kravitz, P.A.
1300 Sawgrass Corp. Pkwy., Suite 100
Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33323
Phone: 954-514-0984
Fax: 954-514-0985
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Fla. S. Ct. Certified Circuit Court Civil Mediator
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Subject: [RPPTL-construction law] 713.10 lien for private leasehold on
public land
Does anyone have any authority for a construction lien on a leasehold
where the lessee is a private party but the lessor is a municipality
(i.e. on public land)? The lessee contracted for the improvements which
were required by the lease agreement. The only authority I have found
is Section 8.3 of the Fla. Prac. Construction Law Manual which states in
the first paragraph, in part: "However, there may be private leasehold
interests on governmental property that are lienable." I have found no
other authority.
Rafael A. Perez
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No apologies, since there does not appear to be anything on point, the
language in Mayes may at least be persuasive. Thank you MUCHO.
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Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold
on public land
My apologies Tracye. . . I had not actually looked at the string, my
interest was just piqued by Ms. Ashby's discussion. Particular to your
question, I suspect you have already made your way through the cases
dealing with "bid splitting" and "piggybacking" in an effort by by the
public procuring agent to avoid putting a job out to competitive
bidding, i.e., Mayes v Flowers, 154/859. Doesn't get you there, but
maybe a foot in the door.
G. Elliott
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On 2/7/2012 10:10 AM, Tracye wrote:
Thank you Greg for the thoughts. The tort route is a long road, but it
may open up to an E & O policy.
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Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold
on public land
Hmm. Always viewed language added in 255.05(9) as, more or less, a
codification of Miorelli v Brevard and not so much directed to public
entity liability under Palm Beach v. Trinity, etc. Seems the S Ct
indirectly recognized as such in FDEP v. ContractPoint, 986/1260.
Anyway, have had to resort to Palm Beach/Trinity type actions on several
occasions in the recent past, alleging a cause against the public entity
for failure to comply with the "ministerial duties" imposed on it by
statute (to see that a compliant bond is recorded prior to
commencement). A few times I have brought them in cases where a bond
was apparently obtained by the prime but never recorded (prejudicing the
sub-subs & materialmen in getting notices to the proper parties). In my
view liability for the surety (and principal if solvent) was pretty
straightforward when Martin Paving "no recording/no reliance on notice
defenses" prevailed (overlooking common law bond rationale). Now that
liability on the 255.05 Bond count apparently turns on whether the
claimant was "prejudiced" by failure to record (American Home
Assurance), you almost have to add the additional count against the
public entity for failure to see that a compliant bond was recorded
under Palm Beach/Trinity.
When your on that path the attorneys for the entity have started taking
the position the Palm Beach/Trinity type claim is in tort for common law
negligence, with the significance being whether notice requirements and
liability limitations of 768.28 apply, and further, whether comparatives
under 768.81 (Fabre) come in. Usually they try to point fault at the
claimant, whatever "noticing" outfit the sub or materialman used to
serve their notices, and any other party that could have taken action to
avert notice failings. I have even had one where the public entity and
the prime contractor cross-claimed against each other, each claiming
that the other "promised to record the bond". Very murky process.
Experience suggest to me that much of it could be avoided if there was
provision in 255.05, akin to that in 713.23(1)(b) (imposing liability
against the "owner, contractor or surety" for failing to furnish a copy
of the bond on demand). I say this, because sub-subs and materialman
almost always get the "owner" right when serving their notices even if
they can't find the bond. The Notice to Owner/Contractor form
inevitably requests a copy of any bond (713.23/255.05 and 337.18). I
don't recall once in 28 years having seen a single instance in which any
party that received notice actually furnished a copy of the bond. Also,
(and as Mr. Leiby adroitly points out in his learned treatise),
searching for bonds in the public record is never easy where there are
no specifications to the clerk for indexing.
GTE
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On 2/6/2012 3:42 PM, kim.ashby@akerman.com wrote:
Fred, if you look closely at that case, it was the Commissioner's E&O
carrier (for operational activities) that was the liable party because
the Commissioners were protected by the same sovereign immunity. See
Palm Beach County v. Trinity Industries, Inc., 661 So. 2d 942 (Fla. 4th
DCA 1995).
Since that opinion was published, the legislature made the following
changes to section 255.05, specifically in adding section 255.05(9):
(9) On any public works project for which the public
authority requires a performance and payment bond, suits at law and in
equity may be brought and maintained by and against the public authority
on any contract claim arising from a breach of an express provision or
an implied covenant of a written agreement or a written directive issued
by the public authority pursuant to the written agreement. in any such
suit, the public authority and the contractor shall have all of the same
rights and obligations as a private person under a like contract except
that no liability may be based on an oral modification of either the
written contract or written directive. Nothing herein shall be
construed to waive the sovereign immunity of the state and its political
subdivisions from equitable claims and equitable remedies. The
provisions of this section shall apply only to contracts entered into on
or after July 1, 1999.
See also
St. Augustine v. Brooks, 55 So. 2d 96 (Fla. 1951) (mechanic's lien will
not attach to property held and used by a municipality for public
purposes).
Just saying.
Kim
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There's also an old case out of north Florida holding county
commissioners PERSONALLY liable for failing to require a 255 bond!
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Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 2:44 PM
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Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold
onpublic land
Why not enforce your bond remedy?
Note the first sentence of 255.05(1)(a); the recent amendments creating
existing language requires private party to obtain bond(s) for work that
private party contracts for as improvement to public property or a
Public Work . To understand better the meaning of the amendment, do
research on use of "public work"; that wording is not limited to "
public property" or there would be no disjunctive "or". A very early
case used "public work" as private property of a railroad that would
serve the public; that case did not deal with lien or bond, but it
illustrates how general "public work" means in current version of
statute. A more interesting issue is defining the remedy for
non-compliance against the public body or the private party that failed
to obtain bonds. In some past cases the commissioners or council members
were liable to person or entity that by law had right to rely upon
existence of the required bonds. Who was advising the public body; the
private party. Does the license or lease have an indemnity clause in
favor of public entity? Have fun.
JG Thresher
813-229-7744
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Can you send a copy of the Order on your motion for SJ?
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L. Capps
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 4:34 PM
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Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold
onpublic land
Steve Pickert and I had such a case many years ago, wherein the City of
Coral Springs entered into a renewable "Concession Agreement" (i.e., a
lease) for a private party to build an ice-skating rink on City
property. Under the Concession Agreement, the concessionaire/lessee
actually owned the improvements subject to the City's reversionary
interest at the conclusion of the lease. The concessionaire/lessee
didn't pay the contractor and, in fact, sold its interest during
construction. The contractor, our client, recorded a lien against the
property, and both the concessionaire/lessee and the purchaser said the
property was not lienable. We moved for and were granted summary
judgment in our favor on that issue. Attached is the motion/brief,
which is a matter of public record and may be helpful. Presumably much
of the law has changed/evolved over the past 14 or so years.
Bryan Capps
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Leiby
Sent: Thu 2/2/2012 3:44 PM
To: RPPTL constructionlaw
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 713.10 lien for private leasehold
onpublic land
The answer is in the definitions in 713.01 (and if you are referring to
8:3 of my book, it is set out there). The statutory reason that you
can't lien publicly owned property is because a governmental owner is
not within the definition of owner in 713.01. The definition of real
property also excludes governmentally owned property. This is intended
to keep governmentally owned property out of the lien law because a
government must usually go through an election to subject public owned
property to liens, e.g., financing bond issues.
An owner is also defined as one having an interest in the property and
who enters into a contract for the improvement of the real property.
Thus there is no reason that you cannot have a lien on a private
leasehold interest that sits on public property. You want to be careful
when you prepare the lien to only seek it against the leasehold. Also a
lien on a leasehold is typically only as valuable as the tenant is
collectable.
Go get em.
Larry R. Leiby, Esq.
Malka & Kravitz, P.A.
1300 Sawgrass Corp. Pkwy., Suite 100
Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33323
Phone: 954-514-0984
Fax: 954-514-0985
e-mail: leiby@mkpalaw.com
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Fla. S. Ct. Certified Circuit Court Civil Mediator
Fellow, College of Commercial Arbitrators
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Rafael Perez
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 2:56 PM
To: constructionlaw@lists.flabarrpptl.org
Subject: [RPPTL-construction law] 713.10 lien for private leasehold on
public land
Does anyone have any authority for a construction lien on a leasehold
where the lessee is a private party but the lessor is a municipality
(i.e. on public land)? The lessee contracted for the improvements which
were required by the lease agreement. The only authority I have found
is Section 8.3 of the Fla. Prac. Construction Law Manual which states in
the first paragraph, in part: "However, there may be private leasehold
interests on governmental property that are lienable." I have found no
other authority.
Rafael A. Perez
Board Certified Construction Attorney
McArdle and Perez, P.A.
806 S. Douglas Road, Suite 625
Coral Gables, Florida 33134
305-442-2214
Fax 305-442-2291
rperez@mcper.com
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