Entity Conversion and Licensing Question
Interested in folks' thoughts on this:
Entity A, Inc., converts to Entity A+, LLC. Same Federal Tax ID number. Not an asset sale, but the entity is simply converted from a Sub-S corporation to an LLC under the applicable statutes permitting such a conversion.
Entity A had qualifiers in the trades where it worked (MEP). Is Entity A+, LLC properly licensed upon the conversion without further DBPR/CILB filings?
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No, you have to file a change of status with DBPR.
https://www.myfloridalicense.com/CheckListDetail.asp?SID=&xactCode=8080&clientCode=0601&XACT_DEFN_ID=2950 or https://www.myfloridalicense.com/CheckListDetail.asp?SID=&xactCode=8080&clientCode=0614&XACT_DEFN_ID=3305
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Interested in folks' thoughts on this:
Entity A, Inc., converts to Entity A+, LLC. Same Federal Tax ID number. Not an asset sale, but the entity is simply converted from a Sub-S corporation to an LLC under the applicable statutes permitting such a conversion.
Entity A had qualifiers in the trades where it worked (MEP). Is Entity A+, LLC properly licensed upon the conversion without further DBPR/CILB filings?
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I had an issue in a construction case involving the effect of a conversion but it did not deal with the effect on licensing. I would look at . 605.1046 F.S. , On Top Records Corp. v. Sunflower Entm't Co, l:15-CV-22664-lJU. 2015 WL 13264222, at *2 (S.D. Fla. Sept. 24, 2015) and YF Bethanny inc. v. 16 Bethany Station LLC, 14 7 Ariz. 256, 260 (App. 1985), applying Florida law.
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Interested in folks' thoughts on this:
Entity A, Inc., converts to Entity A+, LLC. Same Federal Tax ID number. Not an asset sale, but the entity is simply converted from a Sub-S corporation to an LLC under the applicable statutes permitting such a conversion.
Entity A had qualifiers in the trades where it worked (MEP). Is Entity A+, LLC properly licensed upon the conversion without further DBPR/CILB filings?
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NO,. per the agency.....10 cents please, but I would love to defend them against the department.
Fred R. Dudley, Esq. BCS
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Entity A, Inc., converts to Entity A+, LLC. Same Federal Tax ID number. Not an asset sale, but the entity is simply converted from a Sub-S corporation to an LLC under the applicable statutes permitting such a conversion.
Entity A had qualifiers in the trades where it worked (MEP). Is Entity A+, LLC properly licensed upon the conversion without further DBPR/CILB filings?
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If A+ is a name change and the corporate document number is the same, look at filing a name change with DBPR. I don't think the tax status impacts the licensing.
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Interested in folks’ thoughts on this:
Entity A, Inc., converts to Entity A+, LLC. Same Federal Tax ID number. Not an asset sale, but the entity is simply converted from a Sub-S corporation to an LLC under the applicable statutes permitting such a conversion.
Entity A had qualifiers in the trades where it worked (MEP). Is Entity A+, LLC properly licensed upon the conversion without further DBPR/CILB filings?
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I agree with Fred, the entity must submit an application for a change of status and be approved and licensed
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NO,. per the agency.....10 cents please, but I would love to defend them against the department.
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Interested in folks' thoughts on this:
Entity A, Inc., converts to Entity A+, LLC. Same Federal Tax ID number. Not an asset sale, but the entity is simply converted from a Sub-S corporation to an LLC under the applicable statutes permitting such a conversion.
Entity A had qualifiers in the trades where it worked (MEP). Is Entity A+, LLC properly licensed upon the conversion without further DBPR/CILB filings?
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This case is not directly on point but does stand for the proposition that one's "technical" failure to apply with the Department on behalf of the business organization is not a defense to unlicensed contractor activity.
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I agree with Fred, the entity must submit an application for a change of status and be approved and licensed
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NO,. per the agency.....10 cents please, but I would love to defend them against the department.
Fred R. Dudley, Esq. BCS
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Interested in folks' thoughts on this:
Entity A, Inc., converts to Entity A+, LLC. Same Federal Tax ID number. Not an asset sale, but the entity is simply converted from a Sub-S corporation to an LLC under the applicable statutes permitting such a conversion.
Entity A had qualifiers in the trades where it worked (MEP). Is Entity A+, LLC properly licensed upon the conversion without further DBPR/CILB filings?
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Consider FS 605.1046(1)(a)(2) which provides that the new LLC is the same entity as the converting entity. Doesn't this support the position that if A was properly licensed then so is A+? I think that is the intent of the statute.
Effective: January 1, 2014
West's F.S.A. § 605.1046
605.1046. Effect of conversion
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(1) When a conversion in which the converted entity is a domestic limited liability company becomes effective:
(a) The converted entity is:
- Organized under and subject to this chapter; and
- The same entity, without interruption, as the converting entity;
(b) All property of the converting entity continues to be vested in the converted entity without transfer, reversion, or impairment;
(c) All debts, obligations, and other liabilities of the converting entity continue as debts, obligations, and other liabilities of the converted entity;
(d) Except as otherwise provided by law or the plan of conversion, all the rights, privileges, immunities, powers, and purposes of the converting entity remain in the converted entity;
(e) The name of the converted entity may be substituted for the name of the converting entity in any pending action or proceeding;
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I agree with Fred, the entity must submit an application for a change of status and be approved and licensed
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NO,. per the agency.....10 cents please, but I would love to defend them against the department.
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Interested in folks' thoughts on this:
Entity A, Inc., converts to Entity A+, LLC. Same Federal Tax ID number. Not an asset sale, but the entity is simply converted from a Sub-S corporation to an LLC under the applicable statutes permitting such a conversion.
Entity A had qualifiers in the trades where it worked (MEP). Is Entity A+, LLC properly licensed upon the conversion without further DBPR/CILB filings?
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Yes, I think so. That’s my reading. The name change form has also been filed by now too, I believe.
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Consider FS 605.1046(1)(a)(2) which provides that the new LLC is the same entity as the converting entity. Doesn’t this support the position that if A was properly licensed then so is A+? I think that is the intent of the statute.
Effective: January 1, 2014
West's F.S.A. § 605.1046
605.1046. Effect of conversion
Currentnesshttps://link.edgepilot.com/s/7b828f5c/BeKnZmKpIUuzdigw1a_2fQ?u=https://1.next.westlaw.com/Document/NEECDFAD0F4E911E287538FE6867B56CD/View/FullText.html?originationContext=document%26contextData=(sc.Document)%26transitionType=StatuteNavigator%26needToInjectTerms=False%26ppcid=1e765c8475d04dba9bfdcd64c31168f7%23co_anchor_I71BCE2602B4411F0B3A5FE9AA508FA55
(1) When a conversion in which the converted entity is a domestic limited liability company becomes effective:
(a) The converted entity is:
- Organized under and subject to this chapter; and
- The same entity, without interruption, as the converting entity;
(b) All property of the converting entity continues to be vested in the converted entity without transfer, reversion, or impairment;
(c) All debts, obligations, and other liabilities of the converting entity continue as debts, obligations, and other liabilities of the converted entity;
(d) Except as otherwise provided by law or the plan of conversion, all the rights, privileges, immunities, powers, and purposes of the converting entity remain in the converted entity;
(e) The name of the converted entity may be substituted for the name of the converting entity in any pending action or proceeding;
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I agree with Fred, the entity must submit an application for a change of status and be approved and licensed
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NO,. per the agency…..10 cents please, but I would love to defend them against the department.
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Subject: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] Entity Conversion and Licensing Question
Interested in folks’ thoughts on this:
Entity A, Inc., converts to Entity A+, LLC. Same Federal Tax ID number. Not an asset sale, but the entity is simply converted from a Sub-S corporation to an LLC under the applicable statutes permitting such a conversion.
Entity A had qualifiers in the trades where it worked (MEP). Is Entity A+, LLC properly licensed upon the conversion without further DBPR/CILB filings?
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I agree that (1)(d) applies as to "all rights"....... "Except as otherwise provided by law...." the latter of which appears to be the legislative intent.
In truth ,the application of section 489.128 can be very HARSH, but that is exactly in sync with all the other harsh consequences of UPL, such as: loss of lien rights; criminal sanctions; recoupment of funds already paid; treble damages, etc.
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Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] Entity Conversion and Licensing Question
Consider FS 605.1046(1)(a)(2) which provides that the new LLC is the same entity as the converting entity. Doesn't this support the position that if A was properly licensed then so is A+? I think that is the intent of the statute.
Effective: January 1, 2014
West's F.S.A. § 605.1046
605.1046. Effect of conversion
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(1) When a conversion in which the converted entity is a domestic limited liability company becomes effective:
(a) The converted entity is:
- Organized under and subject to this chapter; and
- The same entity, without interruption, as the converting entity;
(b) All property of the converting entity continues to be vested in the converted entity without transfer, reversion, or impairment;
(c) All debts, obligations, and other liabilities of the converting entity continue as debts, obligations, and other liabilities of the converted entity;
(d) Except as otherwise provided by law or the plan of conversion, all the rights, privileges, immunities, powers, and purposes of the converting entity remain in the converted entity;
(e) The name of the converted entity may be substituted for the name of the converting entity in any pending action or proceeding;
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Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] Entity Conversion and Licensing Question
I agree with Fred, the entity must submit an application for a change of status and be approved and licensed
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Subject: Re: [External] [RPPTL-constructionlaw] Entity Conversion and Licensing Question
NO,. per the agency.....10 cents please, but I would love to defend them against the department.
Fred R. Dudley, Esq. BCS
Board Certified Specialist (Construction Law)
Martindale-Hubbell AV Preeminent Lawyer
Fellow: American College of Trust and Estate Counsel
Dudley, Healy & Heath, PLLC
Attorneys and Counselors at Law
2940 Kerry Forrest Parkway, Suite 201,
TALLAHASSEE, FLORIDA 32309
Direct: 850-692-6368
Cell:850-294-3471
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Subject: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] Entity Conversion and Licensing Question
Interested in folks' thoughts on this:
Entity A, Inc., converts to Entity A+, LLC. Same Federal Tax ID number. Not an asset sale, but the entity is simply converted from a Sub-S corporation to an LLC under the applicable statutes permitting such a conversion.
Entity A had qualifiers in the trades where it worked (MEP). Is Entity A+, LLC properly licensed upon the conversion without further DBPR/CILB filings?
Bruce Partington | Shareholder
bpartington@clarkpartington.commailto:bpartington@clarkpartington.com | (850) 432-1399tel:(850)%20432-1399
Board Certified Specialist in Construction Law
CLARK PARTINGTON
Office: (850) 434-9200 | Fax: (850) 432-7340
125 East Intendencia Street, 4th Floor
Pensacola, Florida 32502
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