Good morning, all -
I know 713.10 has been at the forefront for some of our members lately,
but I don't recall this aspect being discussed, nor has it ever come up
before in my practice.
If an owner properly recorded a 713.10 notice of lien prohibition and
referenced same in a given lease, would a successor owner/landlord have
to re-record the notice upon taking title, or does the protection exist
as long as the relevant lease(s)?
Thanks,
Gregory
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Aren’t the old leases typically assigned over to the Buyer at closing? If a new lease is signed, I think the new owner would have to re-record but I can fashion a really good argument that the Buyer is protected under the old lease with a proper assignment
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Good morning, all -
I know 713.10 has been at the forefront for some of our members lately, but I don't recall this aspect being discussed, nor has it ever come up before in my practice.
If an owner properly recorded a 713.10 notice of lien prohibition and referenced same in a given lease, would a successor owner/landlord have to re-record the notice upon taking title, or does the protection exist as long as the relevant lease(s)?
Thanks,
Gregory
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I always thought the notice runs with the land and the relevant leasehold estate to which it relates; never doubted that it remains effective to protect a successor owner. Title insurance typically shows those 713.10 instrument(s) as exceptions to title – indicating, again I always thought, a belief they survive…
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Aren’t the old leases typically assigned over to the Buyer at closing? If a new lease is signed, I think the new owner would have to re-record but I can fashion a really good argument that the Buyer is protected under the old lease with a proper assignment
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Good morning, all -
I know 713.10 has been at the forefront for some of our members lately, but I don't recall this aspect being discussed, nor has it ever come up before in my practice.
If an owner properly recorded a 713.10 notice of lien prohibition and referenced same in a given lease, would a successor owner/landlord have to re-record the notice upon taking title, or does the protection exist as long as the relevant lease(s)?
Thanks,
Gregory
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David’s understanding below - that it runs with the land - was my understanding, as well. If someone has information/case law to the contrary, please advise the group.
Best Regards,
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I always thought the notice runs with the land and the relevant leasehold estate to which it relates; never doubted that it remains effective to protect a successor owner. Title insurance typically shows those 713.10 instrument(s) as exceptions to title – indicating, again I always thought, a belief they survive…
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Aren’t the old leases typically assigned over to the Buyer at closing? If a new lease is signed, I think the new owner would have to re-record but I can fashion a really good argument that the Buyer is protected under the old lease with a proper assignment
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Subject: [RPPTL LandTen] Applicability of 713.10 lien prohibition protection to successor owners/landlords
Good morning, all -
I know 713.10 has been at the forefront for some of our members lately, but I don't recall this aspect being discussed, nor has it ever come up before in my practice.
If an owner properly recorded a 713.10 notice of lien prohibition and referenced same in a given lease, would a successor owner/landlord have to re-record the notice upon taking title, or does the protection exist as long as the relevant lease(s)?
Thanks,
Gregory
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Thanks for everyone's thoughts on this. I would tend to agree that this
protection runs with the land upon recording (with regard to compliant
leases of course), but likewise welcome any contrary thoughts or case
law.
Gregory
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David's understanding below - that it runs with the land - was my
understanding, as well. If someone has information/case law to the
contrary, please advise the group.
Best Regards,
Gisela
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Subject: Re: [RPPTL LandTen] Applicability of 713.10 lien prohibition
protection to successor owners/landlords
I always thought the notice runs with the land and the relevant
leasehold estate to which it relates; never doubted that it remains
effective to protect a successor owner. Title insurance typically shows
those 713.10 instrument(s) as exceptions to title - indicating, again I
always thought, a belief they survive...
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protection to successor owners/landlords
Aren't the old leases typically assigned over to the Buyer at closing?
If a new lease is signed, I think the new owner would have to re-record
but I can fashion a really good argument that the Buyer is protected
under the old lease with a proper assignment
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Good morning, all -
I know 713.10 has been at the forefront for some of our members lately,
but I don't recall this aspect being discussed, nor has it ever come up
before in my practice.
If an owner properly recorded a 713.10 notice of lien prohibition and
referenced same in a given lease, would a successor owner/landlord have
to re-record the notice upon taking title, or does the protection exist
as long as the relevant lease(s)?
Thanks,
Gregory
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Shumaker, Loop & Kendrick, LLP
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101 East Kennedy Boulevard
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Tampa, FL 33602
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Although the recitation of facts in the opinion is not free from doubt, it appears that the blanket notice that was the subject of the Everglades Electric case was recorded by a predecessor in title to the landlord party to the lawsuit which would imply that the notice “runs with the land”.
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Good morning, all -
I know 713.10 has been at the forefront for some of our members lately, but I don't recall this aspect being discussed, nor has it ever come up before in my practice.
If an owner properly recorded a 713.10 notice of lien prohibition and referenced same in a given lease, would a successor owner/landlord have to re-record the notice upon taking title, or does the protection exist as long as the relevant lease(s)?
Thanks,
Gregory
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Shumaker, Loop & Kendrick, LLP
Bank of America Plaza
101 East Kennedy Boulevard
Suite 2800
Tampa, FL 33602
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It makes sense that a specific memorandum that says this lease provides for lien prohibition would run with the land, but for the generic notice we have as a matter of course rerecorded notices when our clients acquired centers.
My logic has been that under the law prior to Everglades our notices said, our standard form lease provides the following language_______________, my theory was while that may cover old leases it did not cover new leases by a new landlord.
Under the new statute, you are required to notice the name of the landlord, the language in the various leases and a statement that all or a majority of leases contain the required language. Regardless unless we adopt the language from the prior landlord’s form we will need to record new notice for the lien prohibition language in our form.
The other way to look at the question is what happens when a center was in compliance when the notice was filed but falls out of compliance?
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Although the recitation of facts in the opinion is not free from doubt, it appears that the blanket notice that was the subject of the Everglades Electric case was recorded by a predecessor in title to the landlord party to the lawsuit which would imply that the notice “runs with the land”.
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Good morning, all -
I know 713.10 has been at the forefront for some of our members lately, but I don't recall this aspect being discussed, nor has it ever come up before in my practice.
If an owner properly recorded a 713.10 notice of lien prohibition and referenced same in a given lease, would a successor owner/landlord have to re-record the notice upon taking title, or does the protection exist as long as the relevant lease(s)?
Thanks,
Gregory
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