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RC
RPPTL CLC-Discussion
Wed, Dec 21, 2022 3:14 PM

All:

I appreciate your information on the transfer bond matter earlier this week. As an update,  it appears the clerk was visited by the ghosts of construction law past, present and future and had a change of heart so as to allow the transfer of the bond under Fla. Stat. Section 713.24 (I also mentioned that my boss only gave me a subscription to the jelly of the month club instead of a bonus this year so that may have helped as well). In all seriousness, thank you for your insights! May your holiday season be filled with joy and your Christmas or Hanukkah merry.

Sincerely,

Peter B. Rowell
Board Certified Construction Attorney
The Law Office of Peter B. Rowell, P.A.
8950 S.W. 74th Court Suite 2201 A-71
Miami, Florida 33156
Phone: (305) 998-9657
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Subject: Re: [CLC-Discussion] Lien Transfer Bond Question

Never.

You pay cash (cashier’s check) or submit an approved surety bond and the clerk is supposed to transfer the lien and record the document(s).

At that point, the lienor is required to file an amended complaint “foreclosing” on the transfer bond instead of the property.

Good luck.

Gary L. Brown
Partner (Board Certified in Construction Law)
10360 West State Road 84
Fort Lauderdale | FL 33324
(954) 370-9970  | Office
(954) 448-1133 | Cell
(954) 382-1988 | Fax
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I have never seen that.  My experience is that you just pay the money and the lien gets transferred.  Thanks. Arlene

On Mon, Dec 19, 2022 at 11:53 AM RPPTL CLC-Discussion <clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.orgmailto:clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org> wrote:
I don't know of any basis for the clerk's position. We just transferred a lien into a bond in Brevard county without a problem.  It may be a local procedure requirement, ask the clerk to show you the rule they're relying on. There may not be one

On Mon, Dec 19, 2022, 11:15 AM RPPTL CLC-Discussion <clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.orgmailto:clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org> wrote:
All:

I have a client attempting to transfer a construction lien to bond under Fla. Stat. Section 713.24. The lien has been in litigation for several years. The Miami-Dade Clerk has taken the position that it may only transfer the lien with an order by the Court directing it to transfer the lien. I find no such authority in Fla. Stat. Section 713.24. Has anyone else encountered this issue? Many thanks in advance and may your Christmas and holiday season be merry!

Sincerely,

Peter B. Rowell
Board Certified Construction Attorney
The Law Office of Peter B. Rowell, P.A.
8950 S.W. 74th Court Suite 2201 A-71
Miami, Florida 33156
Phone: (305) 998-9657

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All: I appreciate your information on the transfer bond matter earlier this week. As an update, it appears the clerk was visited by the ghosts of construction law past, present and future and had a change of heart so as to allow the transfer of the bond under Fla. Stat. Section 713.24 (I also mentioned that my boss only gave me a subscription to the jelly of the month club instead of a bonus this year so that may have helped as well). In all seriousness, thank you for your insights! May your holiday season be filled with joy and your Christmas or Hanukkah merry. Sincerely, Peter B. Rowell Board Certified Construction Attorney The Law Office of Peter B. Rowell, P.A. 8950 S.W. 74th Court Suite 2201 A-71 Miami, Florida 33156 Phone: (305) 998-9657 [http://kristinlowedesign.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/PeterRowellLogo.jpg] This e-mail communication (including any attachments) may contain legally privileged and confidential information intended solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you should immediately cease reading this message and delete it from your system. Any unauthorized reading, distribution, copying or other use of this communication (or its attachments) is strictly prohibited. From: clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org <clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org> On Behalf Of RPPTL CLC-Discussion Sent: Monday, December 19, 2022 4:49 PM To: clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org Subject: Re: [CLC-Discussion] Lien Transfer Bond Question Never. You pay cash (cashier’s check) or submit an approved surety bond and the clerk is supposed to transfer the lien and record the document(s). At that point, the lienor is required to file an amended complaint “foreclosing” on the transfer bond instead of the property. Good luck. Gary L. Brown Partner (Board Certified in Construction Law) 10360 West State Road 84 Fort Lauderdale | FL 33324 (954) 370-9970 | Office (954) 448-1133 | Cell (954) 382-1988 | Fax Website<http://www.kelleykronenberg.com/> | Email<mailto:gbrown@kelleykronenberg.com> | Bio<https://kelleykronenberg.com/attorney-profiles/gary-l-brown/> [cid:image004.png@01D91525.09566350] Important - Kelley Kronenberg utilizes spam and junk email filtration applications in its email information systems. These systems may prevent or delay delivery of certain email communications. 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From: clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org<mailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org> <clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org<mailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org>> On Behalf Of RPPTL CLC-Discussion Sent: Monday, December 19, 2022 4:09 PM To: clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org<mailto:clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org> Subject: Re: [CLC-Discussion] Lien Transfer Bond Question I have never seen that. My experience is that you just pay the money and the lien gets transferred. Thanks. Arlene On Mon, Dec 19, 2022 at 11:53 AM RPPTL CLC-Discussion <clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org<mailto:clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org>> wrote: I don't know of any basis for the clerk's position. We just transferred a lien into a bond in Brevard county without a problem. It may be a local procedure requirement, ask the clerk to show you the rule they're relying on. There may not be one On Mon, Dec 19, 2022, 11:15 AM RPPTL CLC-Discussion <clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org<mailto:clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org>> wrote: All: I have a client attempting to transfer a construction lien to bond under Fla. Stat. Section 713.24. The lien has been in litigation for several years. The Miami-Dade Clerk has taken the position that it may only transfer the lien with an order by the Court directing it to transfer the lien. I find no such authority in Fla. Stat. Section 713.24. Has anyone else encountered this issue? Many thanks in advance and may your Christmas and holiday season be merry! Sincerely, Peter B. Rowell Board Certified Construction Attorney The Law Office of Peter B. Rowell, P.A. 8950 S.W. 74th Court Suite 2201 A-71 Miami, Florida 33156 Phone: (305) 998-9657 This e-mail communication (including any attachments) may contain legally privileged and confidential information intended solely for the use of the intended recipient. 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RC
RPPTL CLC-Discussion
Wed, Dec 21, 2022 3:50 PM

Glad to hear you resolved the issue. It's amazing how much stuff
bureaucrats make up and try to enforce when there's no legal or regulatory
basis to do it. Have a great holiday

On Wed, Dec 21, 2022, 10:26 AM RPPTL CLC-Discussion <
clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org> wrote:

All:

I appreciate your information on the transfer bond matter earlier this
week. As an update,  it appears the clerk was visited by the ghosts of
construction law past, present and future and had a change of heart so as
to allow the transfer of the bond under Fla. Stat. Section 713.24 (I also
mentioned that my boss only gave me a subscription to the jelly of the
month club instead of a bonus this year so that may have helped as well).
In all seriousness, thank you for your insights! May your holiday season be
filled with joy and your Christmas or Hanukkah merry.

Sincerely,

Peter B. Rowell

Board Certified Construction Attorney

The Law Office of Peter B. Rowell, P.A.

8950 S.W. 74th Court Suite 2201 A-71

Miami, Florida 33156

Phone: (305) 998-9657

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Sent: Monday, December 19, 2022 4:49 PM
To: clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org
Subject: Re: [CLC-Discussion] Lien Transfer Bond Question

Never.

You pay cash (cashier’s check) or submit an approved surety bond and the
clerk is supposed to transfer the lien and record the document(s).

At that point, the lienor is required to file an amended complaint
“foreclosing” on the transfer bond instead of the property.

Good luck.

Gary L. Brown

Partner (Board Certified in Construction Law)

10360 West State Road 84

Fort Lauderdale | FL 33324

(954) 370-9970  | Office

(954) 448-1133 | Cell

(954) 382-1988 | Fax

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Sent: Monday, December 19, 2022 4:09 PM
To: clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org
Subject: Re: [CLC-Discussion] Lien Transfer Bond Question

I have never seen that.  My experience is that you just pay the money and
the lien gets transferred.  Thanks. Arlene

On Mon, Dec 19, 2022 at 11:53 AM RPPTL CLC-Discussion <
clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org> wrote:

I don't know of any basis for the clerk's position. We just transferred a
lien into a bond in Brevard county without a problem.  It may be a local
procedure requirement, ask the clerk to show you the rule they're relying
on. There may not be one

On Mon, Dec 19, 2022, 11:15 AM RPPTL CLC-Discussion <
clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org> wrote:

All:

I have a client attempting to transfer a construction lien to bond under
Fla. Stat. Section 713.24. The lien has been in litigation for several
years. The Miami-Dade Clerk has taken the position that it may only
transfer the lien with an order by the Court directing it to transfer the
lien. I find no such authority in Fla. Stat. Section 713.24. Has anyone
else encountered this issue? Many thanks in advance and may your Christmas
and holiday season be merry!

Sincerely,

Peter B. Rowell

Board Certified Construction Attorney

The Law Office of Peter B. Rowell, P.A.

8950 S.W. 74th Court Suite 2201 A-71

Miami, Florida 33156

Phone: (305) 998-9657

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Glad to hear you resolved the issue. It's amazing how much stuff bureaucrats make up and try to enforce when there's no legal or regulatory basis to do it. Have a great holiday On Wed, Dec 21, 2022, 10:26 AM RPPTL CLC-Discussion < clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org> wrote: > All: > > > > I appreciate your information on the transfer bond matter earlier this > week. As an update, it appears the clerk was visited by the ghosts of > construction law past, present and future and had a change of heart so as > to allow the transfer of the bond under Fla. Stat. Section 713.24 (I also > mentioned that my boss only gave me a subscription to the jelly of the > month club instead of a bonus this year so that may have helped as well). > In all seriousness, thank you for your insights! May your holiday season be > filled with joy and your Christmas or Hanukkah merry. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Peter B. Rowell > > Board Certified Construction Attorney > > The Law Office of Peter B. Rowell, P.A. > > 8950 S.W. 74th Court Suite 2201 A-71 > > Miami, Florida 33156 > > Phone: (305) 998-9657 > > [image: > http://kristinlowedesign.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/PeterRowellLogo.jpg] > > This e-mail communication (including any attachments) may contain legally > privileged and confidential information intended solely for the use of the > intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you should > immediately cease reading this message and delete it from your system. Any > unauthorized reading, distribution, copying or other use of this > communication (or its attachments) is strictly prohibited. > > > > *From:* clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org < > clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org> *On Behalf Of *RPPTL > CLC-Discussion > *Sent:* Monday, December 19, 2022 4:49 PM > *To:* clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org > *Subject:* Re: [CLC-Discussion] Lien Transfer Bond Question > > > > Never. > > > > You pay cash (cashier’s check) or submit an approved surety bond and the > clerk is supposed to transfer the lien and record the document(s). > > > > At that point, the lienor is required to file an amended complaint > “foreclosing” on the transfer bond instead of the property. > > > > Good luck. > > > > *Gary L. Brown* > > *Partner (Board Certified in Construction Law)* > > 10360 West State Road 84 > > Fort Lauderdale | FL 33324 > > (954) 370-9970 | Office > > (954) 448-1133 | Cell > > (954) 382-1988 | Fax > > *Website <http://www.kelleykronenberg.com/>* | *Email > <gbrown@kelleykronenberg.com>* | Bio > <https://kelleykronenberg.com/attorney-profiles/gary-l-brown/> > > > > Important - Kelley Kronenberg utilizes spam and junk email filtration > applications in its email information systems. These systems may prevent > or delay delivery of certain email communications. If you do not receive a > timely response to an email communication, please contact the intended > recipient via phone in one of our office locations available here > <http://www.kelleykronenberg.com/offices/>. > > > > The information transmitted, including any attachments, is intended only > for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, > dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, > this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient > is prohibited, and all liability arising therefrom is disclaimed. If you > received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material > from any computer. Thank you. > > > > > > > > > > *From:* clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org < > clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org> *On Behalf Of *RPPTL > CLC-Discussion > *Sent:* Monday, December 19, 2022 4:09 PM > *To:* clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org > *Subject:* Re: [CLC-Discussion] Lien Transfer Bond Question > > > > I have never seen that. My experience is that you just pay the money and > the lien gets transferred. Thanks. Arlene > > > > On Mon, Dec 19, 2022 at 11:53 AM RPPTL CLC-Discussion < > clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org> wrote: > > I don't know of any basis for the clerk's position. We just transferred a > lien into a bond in Brevard county without a problem. It may be a local > procedure requirement, ask the clerk to show you the rule they're relying > on. There may not be one > > > > On Mon, Dec 19, 2022, 11:15 AM RPPTL CLC-Discussion < > clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org> wrote: > > All: > > > > I have a client attempting to transfer a construction lien to bond under > Fla. Stat. Section 713.24. The lien has been in litigation for several > years. The Miami-Dade Clerk has taken the position that it may only > transfer the lien with an order by the Court directing it to transfer the > lien. I find no such authority in Fla. Stat. Section 713.24. Has anyone > else encountered this issue? Many thanks in advance and may your Christmas > and holiday season be merry! > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Peter B. Rowell > > Board Certified Construction Attorney > > The Law Office of Peter B. Rowell, P.A. > > 8950 S.W. 74th Court Suite 2201 A-71 > > Miami, Florida 33156 > > Phone: (305) 998-9657 > > > > This e-mail communication (including any attachments) may contain legally > privileged and confidential information intended solely for the use of the > intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you should > immediately cease reading this message and delete it from your system. Any > unauthorized reading, distribution, copying or other use of this > communication (or its attachments) is strictly prohibited. > > > > _______________________________________________ > CLC-Discussion mailing list > CLC-Discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org > http://mailman.fsr.com/mailman/listinfo/clc-discussion > > _______________________________________________ > CLC-Discussion mailing list > CLC-Discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org > http://mailman.fsr.com/mailman/listinfo/clc-discussion > > > > > -- > > > > *Arlene C. Udick, Esq.* > > *(p) 352-391-1888* > > *(c) 352-217-3176* > > > > *This office is closed on Fridays.* > > > _______________________________________________ > CLC-Discussion mailing list > CLC-Discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org > http://mailman.fsr.com/mailman/listinfo/clc-discussion
RC
RPPTL CLC-Discussion
Wed, Dec 21, 2022 3:57 PM

Tell us more about this jelly of the month subscription and please differentiate between jelly, jam and preserves (if possible).

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 21, 2022, at 10:51 AM, RPPTL CLC-Discussion clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org wrote:


Glad to hear you resolved the issue. It's amazing how much stuff bureaucrats make up and try to enforce when there's no legal or regulatory basis to do it. Have a great holiday

On Wed, Dec 21, 2022, 10:26 AM RPPTL CLC-Discussion <clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.orgmailto:clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org> wrote:
All:

I appreciate your information on the transfer bond matter earlier this week. As an update,  it appears the clerk was visited by the ghosts of construction law past, present and future and had a change of heart so as to allow the transfer of the bond under Fla. Stat. Section 713.24 (I also mentioned that my boss only gave me a subscription to the jelly of the month club instead of a bonus this year so that may have helped as well). In all seriousness, thank you for your insights! May your holiday season be filled with joy and your Christmas or Hanukkah merry.

Sincerely,

Peter B. Rowell
Board Certified Construction Attorney
The Law Office of Peter B. Rowell, P.A.
8950 S.W. 74th Court Suite 2201 A-71
Miami, Florida 33156
Phone: (305) 998-9657
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To: clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.orgmailto:clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org
Subject: Re: [CLC-Discussion] Lien Transfer Bond Question

Never.

You pay cash (cashier’s check) or submit an approved surety bond and the clerk is supposed to transfer the lien and record the document(s).

At that point, the lienor is required to file an amended complaint “foreclosing” on the transfer bond instead of the property.

Good luck.

Gary L. Brown
Partner (Board Certified in Construction Law)
10360 West State Road 84
Fort Lauderdale | FL 33324
(954) 370-9970  | Office
(954) 448-1133 | Cell
(954) 382-1988 | Fax
Websitehttp://www.kelleykronenberg.com/ | Emailmailto:gbrown@kelleykronenberg.com | Biohttps://kelleykronenberg.com/attorney-profiles/gary-l-brown/
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To: clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.orgmailto:clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org
Subject: Re: [CLC-Discussion] Lien Transfer Bond Question

I have never seen that.  My experience is that you just pay the money and the lien gets transferred.  Thanks. Arlene

On Mon, Dec 19, 2022 at 11:53 AM RPPTL CLC-Discussion <clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.orgmailto:clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org> wrote:
I don't know of any basis for the clerk's position. We just transferred a lien into a bond in Brevard county without a problem.  It may be a local procedure requirement, ask the clerk to show you the rule they're relying on. There may not be one

On Mon, Dec 19, 2022, 11:15 AM RPPTL CLC-Discussion <clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.orgmailto:clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org> wrote:
All:

I have a client attempting to transfer a construction lien to bond under Fla. Stat. Section 713.24. The lien has been in litigation for several years. The Miami-Dade Clerk has taken the position that it may only transfer the lien with an order by the Court directing it to transfer the lien. I find no such authority in Fla. Stat. Section 713.24. Has anyone else encountered this issue? Many thanks in advance and may your Christmas and holiday season be merry!

Sincerely,

Peter B. Rowell
Board Certified Construction Attorney
The Law Office of Peter B. Rowell, P.A.
8950 S.W. 74th Court Suite 2201 A-71
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Tell us more about this jelly of the month subscription and please differentiate between jelly, jam and preserves (if possible). Sent from my iPhone On Dec 21, 2022, at 10:51 AM, RPPTL CLC-Discussion <clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org> wrote:  Glad to hear you resolved the issue. It's amazing how much stuff bureaucrats make up and try to enforce when there's no legal or regulatory basis to do it. Have a great holiday On Wed, Dec 21, 2022, 10:26 AM RPPTL CLC-Discussion <clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org<mailto:clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org>> wrote: All: I appreciate your information on the transfer bond matter earlier this week. As an update, it appears the clerk was visited by the ghosts of construction law past, present and future and had a change of heart so as to allow the transfer of the bond under Fla. Stat. Section 713.24 (I also mentioned that my boss only gave me a subscription to the jelly of the month club instead of a bonus this year so that may have helped as well). In all seriousness, thank you for your insights! May your holiday season be filled with joy and your Christmas or Hanukkah merry. Sincerely, Peter B. Rowell Board Certified Construction Attorney The Law Office of Peter B. Rowell, P.A. 8950 S.W. 74th Court Suite 2201 A-71 Miami, Florida 33156 Phone: (305) 998-9657 [http://kristinlowedesign.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/PeterRowellLogo.jpg] This e-mail communication (including any attachments) may contain legally privileged and confidential information intended solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you should immediately cease reading this message and delete it from your system. Any unauthorized reading, distribution, copying or other use of this communication (or its attachments) is strictly prohibited. From: clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org<mailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org> <clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org<mailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org>> On Behalf Of RPPTL CLC-Discussion Sent: Monday, December 19, 2022 4:49 PM To: clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org<mailto:clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org> Subject: Re: [CLC-Discussion] Lien Transfer Bond Question Never. You pay cash (cashier’s check) or submit an approved surety bond and the clerk is supposed to transfer the lien and record the document(s). At that point, the lienor is required to file an amended complaint “foreclosing” on the transfer bond instead of the property. Good luck. Gary L. Brown Partner (Board Certified in Construction Law) 10360 West State Road 84 Fort Lauderdale | FL 33324 (954) 370-9970 | Office (954) 448-1133 | Cell (954) 382-1988 | Fax Website<http://www.kelleykronenberg.com/> | Email<mailto:gbrown@kelleykronenberg.com> | Bio<https://kelleykronenberg.com/attorney-profiles/gary-l-brown/> [cid:image004.png@01D91525.09566350] Important - Kelley Kronenberg utilizes spam and junk email filtration applications in its email information systems. These systems may prevent or delay delivery of certain email communications. If you do not receive a timely response to an email communication, please contact the intended recipient via phone in one of our office locations available here<http://www.kelleykronenberg.com/offices/>. The information transmitted, including any attachments, is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited, and all liability arising therefrom is disclaimed. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Thank you. From: clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org<mailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org> <clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org<mailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org>> On Behalf Of RPPTL CLC-Discussion Sent: Monday, December 19, 2022 4:09 PM To: clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org<mailto:clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org> Subject: Re: [CLC-Discussion] Lien Transfer Bond Question I have never seen that. My experience is that you just pay the money and the lien gets transferred. Thanks. Arlene On Mon, Dec 19, 2022 at 11:53 AM RPPTL CLC-Discussion <clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org<mailto:clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org>> wrote: I don't know of any basis for the clerk's position. We just transferred a lien into a bond in Brevard county without a problem. It may be a local procedure requirement, ask the clerk to show you the rule they're relying on. There may not be one On Mon, Dec 19, 2022, 11:15 AM RPPTL CLC-Discussion <clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org<mailto:clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org>> wrote: All: I have a client attempting to transfer a construction lien to bond under Fla. Stat. Section 713.24. The lien has been in litigation for several years. The Miami-Dade Clerk has taken the position that it may only transfer the lien with an order by the Court directing it to transfer the lien. I find no such authority in Fla. Stat. Section 713.24. Has anyone else encountered this issue? Many thanks in advance and may your Christmas and holiday season be merry! Sincerely, Peter B. Rowell Board Certified Construction Attorney The Law Office of Peter B. Rowell, P.A. 8950 S.W. 74th Court Suite 2201 A-71 Miami, Florida 33156 Phone: (305) 998-9657 This e-mail communication (including any attachments) may contain legally privileged and confidential information intended solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you should immediately cease reading this message and delete it from your system. 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Perla

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Tell us more about this jelly of the month subscription and please differentiate between jelly, jam and preserves (if possible).
Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 21, 2022, at 10:51 AM, RPPTL CLC-Discussion <clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.orgmailto:clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org> wrote:

Glad to hear you resolved the issue. It's amazing how much stuff bureaucrats make up and try to enforce when there's no legal or regulatory basis to do it. Have a great holiday

On Wed, Dec 21, 2022, 10:26 AM RPPTL CLC-Discussion <clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.orgmailto:clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org> wrote:
All:

I appreciate your information on the transfer bond matter earlier this week. As an update,  it appears the clerk was visited by the ghosts of construction law past, present and future and had a change of heart so as to allow the transfer of the bond under Fla. Stat. Section 713.24 (I also mentioned that my boss only gave me a subscription to the jelly of the month club instead of a bonus this year so that may have helped as well). In all seriousness, thank you for your insights! May your holiday season be filled with joy and your Christmas or Hanukkah merry.

Sincerely,

Peter B. Rowell
Board Certified Construction Attorney
The Law Office of Peter B. Rowell, P.A.
8950 S.W. 74th Court Suite 2201 A-71
Miami, Florida 33156
Phone: (305) 998-9657
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Never.

You pay cash (cashier’s check) or submit an approved surety bond and the clerk is supposed to transfer the lien and record the document(s).

At that point, the lienor is required to file an amended complaint “foreclosing” on the transfer bond instead of the property.

Good luck.

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I have never seen that.  My experience is that you just pay the money and the lien gets transferred.  Thanks. Arlene

On Mon, Dec 19, 2022 at 11:53 AM RPPTL CLC-Discussion <clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.orgmailto:clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org> wrote:
I don't know of any basis for the clerk's position. We just transferred a lien into a bond in Brevard county without a problem.  It may be a local procedure requirement, ask the clerk to show you the rule they're relying on. There may not be one

On Mon, Dec 19, 2022, 11:15 AM RPPTL CLC-Discussion <clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.orgmailto:clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org> wrote:
All:

I have a client attempting to transfer a construction lien to bond under Fla. Stat. Section 713.24. The lien has been in litigation for several years. The Miami-Dade Clerk has taken the position that it may only transfer the lien with an order by the Court directing it to transfer the lien. I find no such authority in Fla. Stat. Section 713.24. Has anyone else encountered this issue? Many thanks in advance and may your Christmas and holiday season be merry!

Sincerely,

Peter B. Rowell
Board Certified Construction Attorney
The Law Office of Peter B. Rowell, P.A.
8950 S.W. 74th Court Suite 2201 A-71
Miami, Florida 33156
Phone: (305) 998-9657

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I’m not sure you can actually kidnap yourself, but we can work on that. We have your back. Perla From: clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org <clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org> On Behalf Of RPPTL CLC-Discussion Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2022 10:57 AM To: clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org Subject: Re: [CLC-Discussion] Lien Transfer Bond Question Tell us more about this jelly of the month subscription and please differentiate between jelly, jam and preserves (if possible). Sent from my iPhone On Dec 21, 2022, at 10:51 AM, RPPTL CLC-Discussion <clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org<mailto:clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org>> wrote:  Glad to hear you resolved the issue. It's amazing how much stuff bureaucrats make up and try to enforce when there's no legal or regulatory basis to do it. Have a great holiday On Wed, Dec 21, 2022, 10:26 AM RPPTL CLC-Discussion <clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org<mailto:clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org>> wrote: All: I appreciate your information on the transfer bond matter earlier this week. As an update, it appears the clerk was visited by the ghosts of construction law past, present and future and had a change of heart so as to allow the transfer of the bond under Fla. Stat. Section 713.24 (I also mentioned that my boss only gave me a subscription to the jelly of the month club instead of a bonus this year so that may have helped as well). In all seriousness, thank you for your insights! May your holiday season be filled with joy and your Christmas or Hanukkah merry. Sincerely, Peter B. Rowell Board Certified Construction Attorney The Law Office of Peter B. Rowell, P.A. 8950 S.W. 74th Court Suite 2201 A-71 Miami, Florida 33156 Phone: (305) 998-9657 [http://kristinlowedesign.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/PeterRowellLogo.jpg] This e-mail communication (including any attachments) may contain legally privileged and confidential information intended solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you should immediately cease reading this message and delete it from your system. Any unauthorized reading, distribution, copying or other use of this communication (or its attachments) is strictly prohibited. From: clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org<mailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org> <clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org<mailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org>> On Behalf Of RPPTL CLC-Discussion Sent: Monday, December 19, 2022 4:49 PM To: clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org<mailto:clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org> Subject: Re: [CLC-Discussion] Lien Transfer Bond Question Never. You pay cash (cashier’s check) or submit an approved surety bond and the clerk is supposed to transfer the lien and record the document(s). At that point, the lienor is required to file an amended complaint “foreclosing” on the transfer bond instead of the property. Good luck. Gary L. Brown Partner (Board Certified in Construction Law) 10360 West State Road 84 Fort Lauderdale | FL 33324 (954) 370-9970 | Office (954) 448-1133 | Cell (954) 382-1988 | Fax Website<http://www.kelleykronenberg.com/> | Email<mailto:gbrown@kelleykronenberg.com> | Bio<https://kelleykronenberg.com/attorney-profiles/gary-l-brown/> [cid:image004.png@01D91525.09566350] Important - Kelley Kronenberg utilizes spam and junk email filtration applications in its email information systems. These systems may prevent or delay delivery of certain email communications. If you do not receive a timely response to an email communication, please contact the intended recipient via phone in one of our office locations available here<http://www.kelleykronenberg.com/offices/>. The information transmitted, including any attachments, is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited, and all liability arising therefrom is disclaimed. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Thank you. From: clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org<mailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org> <clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org<mailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org>> On Behalf Of RPPTL CLC-Discussion Sent: Monday, December 19, 2022 4:09 PM To: clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org<mailto:clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org> Subject: Re: [CLC-Discussion] Lien Transfer Bond Question I have never seen that. My experience is that you just pay the money and the lien gets transferred. Thanks. Arlene On Mon, Dec 19, 2022 at 11:53 AM RPPTL CLC-Discussion <clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org<mailto:clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org>> wrote: I don't know of any basis for the clerk's position. We just transferred a lien into a bond in Brevard county without a problem. It may be a local procedure requirement, ask the clerk to show you the rule they're relying on. There may not be one On Mon, Dec 19, 2022, 11:15 AM RPPTL CLC-Discussion <clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org<mailto:clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org>> wrote: All: I have a client attempting to transfer a construction lien to bond under Fla. Stat. Section 713.24. The lien has been in litigation for several years. The Miami-Dade Clerk has taken the position that it may only transfer the lien with an order by the Court directing it to transfer the lien. I find no such authority in Fla. Stat. Section 713.24. Has anyone else encountered this issue? Many thanks in advance and may your Christmas and holiday season be merry! Sincerely, Peter B. Rowell Board Certified Construction Attorney The Law Office of Peter B. Rowell, P.A. 8950 S.W. 74th Court Suite 2201 A-71 Miami, Florida 33156 Phone: (305) 998-9657 This e-mail communication (including any attachments) may contain legally privileged and confidential information intended solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you should immediately cease reading this message and delete it from your system. 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