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Reese J. Henderson, Jr.
Fri, Feb 17, 2012 3:01 PM
Interesting case - the one obvious distinguishing factor is, under Bryan's facts, the lienor dismissed because the old tenant is no longer a proper party, although it was originally. Thus, the dismissal is not because of a "meritorious affirmative defense", but because of a change in circumstances that could not have been anticipated or dealt with when the suit was filed. In fact, one could argue the contractor is at risk of paying prevailing party attorney's fees to the old tenant if it refuses to dismiss the old tenant once it becomes clear there is no longer a basis to maintain suit against it. See, e.g., sec. 57.105(1), F.S. (holding that losing party and losing party's counsel subject to award of fees when they knew or should have known that claim was not supported by material facts, etc., "when initially presented to the court or at any time before trial" (emphasis added)).
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See Alhambra Homeowners' Association, Inc. vs. Asad, 943 So.2d 316 (Fla. 4th DCA 2006)
http://www.4dca.org/Dec%202006/12-13-06/4D06-835.op.pdf
This involves voluntary dismissal of a suit without prejudice, but I imagine the same would result when a party is dropped.
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I never dismiss or excuse a party in a lien foreclosure for any reason unless I first get either a stipulation or court order that each side bears their own fees. Although I don't know any law on point, I wouldn't be comfortable that it's a foregone conclusion that the dismissed old tenant did not prevail.
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(Hopefully) Quick/easy question for the brain trust:
Contractor has improvements contract with tenant, is not paid. Contract contains no prevailing-party fees provision.
Contractor sues landlord and tenant under Lien Law to foreclose construction lien. (Assume lien is good against landlord.)
Prior to trial, landlord evicts tenant and re-leases property to another tenant.
Learning of the eviction, Contractor amends complaint to substitute new tenant for old tenant.
My stupid question: Is the old tenant now the prevailing party under §713.29 as to the contractor?
I would think absolutely not, that this has to have come up before, and that the applicable law would be relatively easy to identify, but not so/yet. Any cites or insights you could offer would be appreciated.
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Interesting case - the one obvious distinguishing factor is, under Bryan's facts, the lienor dismissed because the old tenant is no longer a proper party, although it was originally. Thus, the dismissal is not because of a "meritorious affirmative defense", but because of a change in circumstances that could not have been anticipated or dealt with when the suit was filed. In fact, one could argue the contractor is at risk of paying prevailing party attorney's fees to the old tenant if it refuses to dismiss the old tenant once it becomes clear there is no longer a basis to maintain suit against it. See, e.g., sec. 57.105(1), F.S. (holding that losing party and losing party's counsel subject to award of fees when they knew or should have known that claim was not supported by material facts, etc., "when initially presented to the court or at any time before trial" (emphasis added)).
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See Alhambra Homeowners' Association, Inc. vs. Asad, 943 So.2d 316 (Fla. 4th DCA 2006)
http://www.4dca.org/Dec%202006/12-13-06/4D06-835.op.pdf
This involves voluntary dismissal of a suit without prejudice, but I imagine the same would result when a party is dropped.
- Don
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I never dismiss or excuse a party in a lien foreclosure for any reason unless I first get either a stipulation or court order that each side bears their own fees. Although I don't know any law on point, I wouldn't be comfortable that it's a foregone conclusion that the dismissed old tenant did not prevail.
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(Hopefully) Quick/easy question for the brain trust:
Contractor has improvements contract with tenant, is not paid. Contract contains no prevailing-party fees provision.
Contractor sues landlord and tenant under Lien Law to foreclose construction lien. (Assume lien is good against landlord.)
Prior to trial, landlord evicts tenant and re-leases property to another tenant.
Learning of the eviction, Contractor amends complaint to substitute new tenant for old tenant.
My stupid question: Is the old tenant now the prevailing party under §713.29 as to the contractor?
I would think absolutely not, that this has to have come up before, and that the applicable law would be relatively easy to identify, but not so/yet. Any cites or insights you could offer would be appreciated.
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Paul J. Kelly
Fri, Feb 17, 2012 3:34 PM
I agree with Don in the sense that the most direct route may be procedural with the voluntary dismissal. Under the voluntary dismissal fees go to the party (defendant) that was dismissed in certain jurisdictions. Last I checked, there is a conflict between jurisdictions and the award of fees to a party that was voluntarily dismissed.
839 So.2d 744, District Court of Appeal of Florida, Fourth District. Walter D. PADOW, M.D., P.A., Appellant, v. KNOLLWOOD CLUB ASSOCIATION, INC., a Florida not-for-profit corporation, Appellee. No. 4D02-470. | Jan. 29, 2003. | Rehearing Denied March 20, 2003.
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See Alhambra Homeowners’ Association, Inc. vs. Asad, 943 So.2d 316 (Fla. 4th DCA 2006)
http://www.4dca.org/Dec%202006/12-13-06/4D06-835.op.pdf
This involves voluntary dismissal of a suit without prejudice, but I imagine the same would result when a party is dropped.
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Suite 301
Coral Springs, Florida 33071
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I never dismiss or excuse a party in a lien foreclosure for any reason unless I first get either a stipulation or court order that each side bears their own fees. Although I don't know any law on point, I wouldn't be comfortable that it's a foregone conclusion that the dismissed old tenant did not prevail.
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(Hopefully) Quick/easy question for the brain trust:
Contractor has improvements contract with tenant, is not paid. Contract contains no prevailing-party fees provision.
Contractor sues landlord and tenant under Lien Law to foreclose construction lien. (Assume lien is good against landlord.)
Prior to trial, landlord evicts tenant and re-leases property to another tenant.
Learning of the eviction, Contractor amends complaint to substitute new tenant for old tenant.
My stupid question: Is the old tenant now the prevailing party under §713.29 as to the contractor?
I would think absolutely not, that this has to have come up before, and that the applicable law would be relatively easy to identify, but not so/yet. Any cites or insights you could offer would be appreciated.
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I agree with Don in the sense that the most direct route may be procedural with the voluntary dismissal. Under the voluntary dismissal fees go to the party (defendant) that was dismissed in certain jurisdictions. Last I checked, there is a conflict between jurisdictions and the award of fees to a party that was voluntarily dismissed.
839 So.2d 744, District Court of Appeal of Florida, Fourth District. Walter D. PADOW, M.D., P.A., Appellant, v. KNOLLWOOD CLUB ASSOCIATION, INC., a Florida not-for-profit corporation, Appellee. No. 4D02-470. | Jan. 29, 2003. | Rehearing Denied March 20, 2003.
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See Alhambra Homeowners’ Association, Inc. vs. Asad, 943 So.2d 316 (Fla. 4th DCA 2006)
http://www.4dca.org/Dec%202006/12-13-06/4D06-835.op.pdf
This involves voluntary dismissal of a suit without prejudice, but I imagine the same would result when a party is dropped.
- Don
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Suite 301
Coral Springs, Florida 33071
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I never dismiss or excuse a party in a lien foreclosure for any reason unless I first get either a stipulation or court order that each side bears their own fees. Although I don't know any law on point, I wouldn't be comfortable that it's a foregone conclusion that the dismissed old tenant did not prevail.
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3111 Stirling Road
Fort Lauderdale, FL 33312-6525
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Subject: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] Fees Question
(Hopefully) Quick/easy question for the brain trust:
Contractor has improvements contract with tenant, is not paid. Contract contains no prevailing-party fees provision.
Contractor sues landlord and tenant under Lien Law to foreclose construction lien. (Assume lien is good against landlord.)
Prior to trial, landlord evicts tenant and re-leases property to another tenant.
Learning of the eviction, Contractor amends complaint to substitute new tenant for old tenant.
My stupid question: Is the old tenant now the prevailing party under §713.29 as to the contractor?
I would think absolutely not, that this has to have come up before, and that the applicable law would be relatively easy to identify, but not so/yet. Any cites or insights you could offer would be appreciated.
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Kirwin Norris, P.A.
15 West Church Street
Suite 301
Orlando, Florida 32801
Telephone: 407-740-6600
Facsimile: 407-740-6363
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Folks, I have a question relating to the interplay of a statutory claim
under Chapter 713 and the DOench/Duhme defense.
Lienor gets pulled into a commercial mortgage foreclosure on a large
construction project. The original lender did not provide notice of its
intent to cease disbursement of funds pursuant to F.S. 713.3471.
Subsequently, the original bank failed (big surprise) and the FDIC took
over. The FDIC sold assets to another bank, which then instituted the
mortgage foreclosure.
Lienor files a counterclaim for violation of 713.3471. On motion to dismiss,
the Bank raises the DOench/Duhme doctrine, which is now codified in 12
U.S.C. 1823(e), to defeat the statutory claim.
My understanding of DOench/Duhme is that it is/was intended to prevent oral
agreements between a failed bank and its customer that the FDIC/purchasing
bank could not be aware of. However, it seems to be applied fairly liberally
and appears to defeat most claims. I also read somewhere that the
DOench/Duhme doctrine will defeat even statutory claims. However, I did not
find a Florida case on point in my research.
Has anyone dealt (or currently dealing) with a similar situation? If so,
what was the outcome? Can anyone direct me to case law that discusses
DOench/Duhme and statutory claims?
Thoughts or comments would be appreciated.
Jason A. Brazelton, Esquire
Moody and Shea, P.A.
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Largo, Florida 33774
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I agree with Don in the sense that the most direct route may be procedural
with the voluntary dismissal. Under the voluntary dismissal fees go to the
party (defendant) that was dismissed in certain jurisdictions. Last I
checked, there is a conflict between jurisdictions and the award of fees to
a party that was voluntarily dismissed.
839 So.2d 744, District Court of Appeal of Florida, Fourth District. Walter
D. PADOW, M.D., P.A., Appellant, v. KNOLLWOOD CLUB ASSOCIATION, INC., a
Florida not-for-profit corporation, Appellee. No. 4D02-470. | Jan. 29, 2003.
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See Alhambra Homeowners Association, Inc. vs. Asad, 943 So.2d 316 (Fla. 4th
DCA 2006)
http://www.4dca.org/Dec%202006/12-13-06/4D06-835.op.pdf
This involves voluntary dismissal of a suit without prejudice, but I imagine
the same would result when a party is dropped.
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I never dismiss or excuse a party in a lien foreclosure for any reason
unless I first get either a stipulation or court order that each side bears
their own fees. Although I don't know any law on point, I wouldn't be
comfortable that it's a foregone conclusion that the dismissed old tenant
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(Hopefully) Quick/easy question for the brain trust:
Contractor has improvements contract with tenant, is not paid. Contract
contains no prevailing-party fees provision.
Contractor sues landlord and tenant under Lien Law to foreclose construction
lien. (Assume lien is good against landlord.)
Prior to trial, landlord evicts tenant and re-leases property to another
tenant.
Learning of the eviction, Contractor amends complaint to substitute new
tenant for old tenant.
My stupid question: Is the old tenant now the prevailing party under
§713.29 as to the contractor?
I would think absolutely not, that this has to have come up before, and that
the applicable law would be relatively easy to identify, but not so/yet.
Any cites or insights you could offer would be appreciated.
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Folks, I have a question relating to the interplay of a statutory claim
under Chapter 713 and the DOench/Duhme defense.
Lienor gets pulled into a commercial mortgage foreclosure on a large
construction project. The original lender did not provide notice of its
intent to cease disbursement of funds pursuant to F.S. 713.3471.
Subsequently, the original bank failed (big surprise) and the FDIC took
over. The FDIC sold assets to another bank, which then instituted the
mortgage foreclosure.
Lienor files a counterclaim for violation of 713.3471. On motion to dismiss,
the Bank raises the DOench/Duhme doctrine, which is now codified in 12
U.S.C. 1823(e), to defeat the statutory claim.
My understanding of DOench/Duhme is that it is/was intended to prevent oral
agreements between a failed bank and its customer that the FDIC/purchasing
bank could not be aware of. However, it seems to be applied fairly liberally
and appears to defeat most claims. I also read somewhere that the
DOench/Duhme doctrine will defeat even statutory claims. However, I did not
find a Florida case on point in my research.
Has anyone dealt (or currently dealing) with a similar situation? If so,
what was the outcome? Can anyone direct me to case law that discusses
DOench/Duhme and statutory claims?
Thoughts or comments would be appreciated.
Jason A. Brazelton, Esquire
Moody and Shea, P.A.
14501 Walsingham Road
Largo, Florida 33774
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Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 10:35 AM
To: 'RPPTL constructionlaw'
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] Fees Question
I agree with Don in the sense that the most direct route may be procedural
with the voluntary dismissal. Under the voluntary dismissal fees go to the
party (defendant) that was dismissed in certain jurisdictions. Last I
checked, there is a conflict between jurisdictions and the award of fees to
a party that was voluntarily dismissed.
839 So.2d 744, District Court of Appeal of Florida, Fourth District. Walter
D. PADOW, M.D., P.A., Appellant, v. KNOLLWOOD CLUB ASSOCIATION, INC., a
Florida not-for-profit corporation, Appellee. No. 4D02-470. | Jan. 29, 2003.
| Rehearing Denied March 20, 2003.
Sincerely,
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Paul J. Kelly, P.A.
2959 First Avenue North
St. Petersburg, Florida 33713
(727) 327-3935
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Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 9:46 AM
To: 'RPPTL constructionlaw'
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] Fees Question
See Alhambra Homeowners Association, Inc. vs. Asad, 943 So.2d 316 (Fla. 4th
DCA 2006)
http://www.4dca.org/Dec%202006/12-13-06/4D06-835.op.pdf
This involves voluntary dismissal of a suit without prejudice, but I imagine
the same would result when a party is dropped.
- Don
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Suite 301
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I never dismiss or excuse a party in a lien foreclosure for any reason
unless I first get either a stipulation or court order that each side bears
their own fees. Although I don't know any law on point, I wouldn't be
comfortable that it's a foregone conclusion that the dismissed old tenant
did not prevail.
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Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 9:22 AM
To: constructionlaw@lists.flabarrpptl.org
Subject: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] Fees Question
(Hopefully) Quick/easy question for the brain trust:
Contractor has improvements contract with tenant, is not paid. Contract
contains no prevailing-party fees provision.
Contractor sues landlord and tenant under Lien Law to foreclose construction
lien. (Assume lien is good against landlord.)
Prior to trial, landlord evicts tenant and re-leases property to another
tenant.
Learning of the eviction, Contractor amends complaint to substitute new
tenant for old tenant.
My stupid question: Is the old tenant now the prevailing party under
§713.29 as to the contractor?
I would think absolutely not, that this has to have come up before, and that
the applicable law would be relatively easy to identify, but not so/yet.
Any cites or insights you could offer would be appreciated.
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Although I don't know the answer to your specific question, you did mention that the FDIC sold the ASSETS to the successor bank. If that's the case, then they may not have transferred the liability. The successor bank may not be liable at all for the original bank's failure to comply with 713.3471.
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Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 11:33 AM
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Subject: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] D'Oench/Duhme and Fla. Stat. 713.3471
Folks, I have a question relating to the interplay of a statutory claim under Chapter 713 and the D'Oench/Duhme defense.
Lienor gets pulled into a commercial mortgage foreclosure on a large construction project. The original lender did not provide notice of its intent to cease disbursement of funds pursuant to F.S. 713.3471. Subsequently, the original bank failed (big surprise) and the FDIC took over. The FDIC sold assets to another bank, which then instituted the mortgage foreclosure.
Lienor files a counterclaim for violation of 713.3471. On motion to dismiss, the Bank raises the D'Oench/Duhme doctrine, which is now codified in 12 U.S.C. 1823(e), to defeat the statutory claim.
My understanding of D'Oench/Duhme is that it is/was intended to prevent oral agreements between a failed bank and its customer that the FDIC/purchasing bank could not be aware of. However, it seems to be applied fairly liberally and appears to defeat most claims. I also read somewhere that the D'Oench/Duhme doctrine will defeat even statutory claims. However, I did not find a Florida case on point in my research.
Has anyone dealt (or currently dealing) with a similar situation? If so, what was the outcome? Can anyone direct me to case law that discusses D'Oench/Duhme and statutory claims?
Thoughts or comments would be appreciated.
Jason A. Brazelton, Esquire
Moody and Shea, P.A.
14501 Walsingham Road
Largo, Florida 33774
(727) 596-3000
(727) 596-3006 - Fax
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I agree with Don in the sense that the most direct route may be procedural with the voluntary dismissal. Under the voluntary dismissal fees go to the party (defendant) that was dismissed in certain jurisdictions. Last I checked, there is a conflict between jurisdictions and the award of fees to a party that was voluntarily dismissed.
839 So.2d 744, District Court of Appeal of Florida, Fourth District. Walter D. PADOW, M.D., P.A., Appellant, v. KNOLLWOOD CLUB ASSOCIATION, INC., a Florida not-for-profit corporation, Appellee. No. 4D02-470. | Jan. 29, 2003. | Rehearing Denied March 20, 2003.
Sincerely,
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To: 'RPPTL constructionlaw'
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] Fees Question
See Alhambra Homeowners' Association, Inc. vs. Asad, 943 So.2d 316 (Fla. 4th DCA 2006)
http://www.4dca.org/Dec%202006/12-13-06/4D06-835.op.pdf
This involves voluntary dismissal of a suit without prejudice, but I imagine the same would result when a party is dropped.
Donald R. Walters, Esq.
JOHNSON & WALTERS P.A.
1401 North University Drive
Suite 301
Coral Springs, Florida 33071
dwalters@johnsonwalters.com
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I never dismiss or excuse a party in a lien foreclosure for any reason unless I first get either a stipulation or court order that each side bears their own fees. Although I don't know any law on point, I wouldn't be comfortable that it's a foregone conclusion that the dismissed old tenant did not prevail.
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From: constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] mailto:%5bmailto:constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org%5d On Behalf Of Bryan L. Capps
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(Hopefully) Quick/easy question for the brain trust:
Contractor has improvements contract with tenant, is not paid. Contract contains no prevailing-party fees provision.
Contractor sues landlord and tenant under Lien Law to foreclose construction lien. (Assume lien is good against landlord.)
Prior to trial, landlord evicts tenant and re-leases property to another tenant.
Learning of the eviction, Contractor amends complaint to substitute new tenant for old tenant.
My stupid question: Is the old tenant now the prevailing party under §713.29 as to the contractor?
I would think absolutely not, that this has to have come up before, and that the applicable law would be relatively easy to identify, but not so/yet. Any cites or insights you could offer would be appreciated.
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Although I don't know the answer to your specific question, you did mention that the FDIC sold the ASSETS to the successor bank. If that's the case, then they may not have transferred the liability. The successor bank may not be liable at all for the original bank's failure to comply with 713.3471.
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Subject: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] D'Oench/Duhme and Fla. Stat. 713.3471
Folks, I have a question relating to the interplay of a statutory claim under Chapter 713 and the D'Oench/Duhme defense.
Lienor gets pulled into a commercial mortgage foreclosure on a large construction project. The original lender did not provide notice of its intent to cease disbursement of funds pursuant to F.S. 713.3471. Subsequently, the original bank failed (big surprise) and the FDIC took over. The FDIC sold assets to another bank, which then instituted the mortgage foreclosure.
Lienor files a counterclaim for violation of 713.3471. On motion to dismiss, the Bank raises the D'Oench/Duhme doctrine, which is now codified in 12 U.S.C. 1823(e), to defeat the statutory claim.
My understanding of D'Oench/Duhme is that it is/was intended to prevent oral agreements between a failed bank and its customer that the FDIC/purchasing bank could not be aware of. However, it seems to be applied fairly liberally and appears to defeat most claims. I also read somewhere that the D'Oench/Duhme doctrine will defeat even statutory claims. However, I did not find a Florida case on point in my research.
Has anyone dealt (or currently dealing) with a similar situation? If so, what was the outcome? Can anyone direct me to case law that discusses D'Oench/Duhme and statutory claims?
Thoughts or comments would be appreciated.
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I agree with Don in the sense that the most direct route may be procedural with the voluntary dismissal. Under the voluntary dismissal fees go to the party (defendant) that was dismissed in certain jurisdictions. Last I checked, there is a conflict between jurisdictions and the award of fees to a party that was voluntarily dismissed.
839 So.2d 744, District Court of Appeal of Florida, Fourth District. Walter D. PADOW, M.D., P.A., Appellant, v. KNOLLWOOD CLUB ASSOCIATION, INC., a Florida not-for-profit corporation, Appellee. No. 4D02-470. | Jan. 29, 2003. | Rehearing Denied March 20, 2003.
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See Alhambra Homeowners' Association, Inc. vs. Asad, 943 So.2d 316 (Fla. 4th DCA 2006)
http://www.4dca.org/Dec%202006/12-13-06/4D06-835.op.pdf
This involves voluntary dismissal of a suit without prejudice, but I imagine the same would result when a party is dropped.
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I never dismiss or excuse a party in a lien foreclosure for any reason unless I first get either a stipulation or court order that each side bears their own fees. Although I don't know any law on point, I wouldn't be comfortable that it's a foregone conclusion that the dismissed old tenant did not prevail.
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(Hopefully) Quick/easy question for the brain trust:
Contractor has improvements contract with tenant, is not paid. Contract contains no prevailing-party fees provision.
Contractor sues landlord and tenant under Lien Law to foreclose construction lien. (Assume lien is good against landlord.)
Prior to trial, landlord evicts tenant and re-leases property to another tenant.
Learning of the eviction, Contractor amends complaint to substitute new tenant for old tenant.
My stupid question: Is the old tenant now the prevailing party under §713.29 as to the contractor?
I would think absolutely not, that this has to have come up before, and that the applicable law would be relatively easy to identify, but not so/yet. Any cites or insights you could offer would be appreciated.
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I have two cases where this exact issue is involved, and the purchasing bank does not have any liability under 713.3471 under the FDIC sale agreement.
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Although I don't know the answer to your specific question, you did mention that the FDIC sold the ASSETS to the successor bank. If that's the case, then they may not have transferred the liability. The successor bank may not be liable at all for the original bank's failure to comply with 713.3471.
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Folks, I have a question relating to the interplay of a statutory claim under Chapter 713 and the D’Oench/Duhme defense.
Lienor gets pulled into a commercial mortgage foreclosure on a large construction project. The original lender did not provide notice of its intent to cease disbursement of funds pursuant to F.S. 713.3471. Subsequently, the original bank failed (big surprise) and the FDIC took over. The FDIC sold assets to another bank, which then instituted the mortgage foreclosure.
Lienor files a counterclaim for violation of 713.3471. On motion to dismiss, the Bank raises the D’Oench/Duhme doctrine, which is now codified in 12 U.S.C. 1823(e), to defeat the statutory claim.
My understanding of D’Oench/Duhme is that it is/was intended to prevent oral agreements between a failed bank and its customer that the FDIC/purchasing bank could not be aware of. However, it seems to be applied fairly liberally and appears to defeat most claims. I also read somewhere that the D’Oench/Duhme doctrine will defeat even statutory claims. However, I did not find a Florida case on point in my research.
Has anyone dealt (or currently dealing) with a similar situation? If so, what was the outcome? Can anyone direct me to case law that discusses D’Oench/Duhme and statutory claims?
Thoughts or comments would be appreciated.
Jason A. Brazelton, Esquire
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I agree with Don in the sense that the most direct route may be procedural with the voluntary dismissal. Under the voluntary dismissal fees go to the party (defendant) that was dismissed in certain jurisdictions. Last I checked, there is a conflict between jurisdictions and the award of fees to a party that was voluntarily dismissed.
839 So.2d 744, District Court of Appeal of Florida, Fourth District. Walter D. PADOW, M.D., P.A., Appellant, v. KNOLLWOOD CLUB ASSOCIATION, INC., a Florida not-for-profit corporation, Appellee. No. 4D02-470. | Jan. 29, 2003. | Rehearing Denied March 20, 2003.
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See Alhambra Homeowners’ Association, Inc. vs. Asad, 943 So.2d 316 (Fla. 4th DCA 2006)
http://www.4dca.org/Dec%202006/12-13-06/4D06-835.op.pdf
This involves voluntary dismissal of a suit without prejudice, but I imagine the same would result when a party is dropped.
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I never dismiss or excuse a party in a lien foreclosure for any reason unless I first get either a stipulation or court order that each side bears their own fees. Although I don't know any law on point, I wouldn't be comfortable that it's a foregone conclusion that the dismissed old tenant did not prevail.
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(Hopefully) Quick/easy question for the brain trust:
Contractor has improvements contract with tenant, is not paid. Contract contains no prevailing-party fees provision.
Contractor sues landlord and tenant under Lien Law to foreclose construction lien. (Assume lien is good against landlord.)
Prior to trial, landlord evicts tenant and re-leases property to another tenant.
Learning of the eviction, Contractor amends complaint to substitute new tenant for old tenant.
My stupid question: Is the old tenant now the prevailing party under §713.29 as to the contractor?
I would think absolutely not, that this has to have come up before, and that the applicable law would be relatively easy to identify, but not so/yet. Any cites or insights you could offer would be appreciated.
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I have two cases where this exact issue is involved, and the purchasing bank does not have any liability under 713.3471 under the FDIC sale agreement.
Charles B. Hernicz, Esq.
Board Certified in Construction Law by The Florida Bar
Hernicz Legal Services, P.L.
15854 Bent Creek Road
Wellington, FL 33414
Telephone: (561) 753-7511
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Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] D'Oench/Duhme and Fla. Stat. 713.3471
Although I don't know the answer to your specific question, you did mention that the FDIC sold the ASSETS to the successor bank. If that's the case, then they may not have transferred the liability. The successor bank may not be liable at all for the original bank's failure to comply with 713.3471.
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Subject: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] D'Oench/Duhme and Fla. Stat. 713.3471
Folks, I have a question relating to the interplay of a statutory claim under Chapter 713 and the D’Oench/Duhme defense.
Lienor gets pulled into a commercial mortgage foreclosure on a large construction project. The original lender did not provide notice of its intent to cease disbursement of funds pursuant to F.S. 713.3471. Subsequently, the original bank failed (big surprise) and the FDIC took over. The FDIC sold assets to another bank, which then instituted the mortgage foreclosure.
Lienor files a counterclaim for violation of 713.3471. On motion to dismiss, the Bank raises the D’Oench/Duhme doctrine, which is now codified in 12 U.S.C. 1823(e), to defeat the statutory claim.
My understanding of D’Oench/Duhme is that it is/was intended to prevent oral agreements between a failed bank and its customer that the FDIC/purchasing bank could not be aware of. However, it seems to be applied fairly liberally and appears to defeat most claims. I also read somewhere that the D’Oench/Duhme doctrine will defeat even statutory claims. However, I did not find a Florida case on point in my research.
Has anyone dealt (or currently dealing) with a similar situation? If so, what was the outcome? Can anyone direct me to case law that discusses D’Oench/Duhme and statutory claims?
Thoughts or comments would be appreciated.
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I agree with Don in the sense that the most direct route may be procedural with the voluntary dismissal. Under the voluntary dismissal fees go to the party (defendant) that was dismissed in certain jurisdictions. Last I checked, there is a conflict between jurisdictions and the award of fees to a party that was voluntarily dismissed.
839 So.2d 744, District Court of Appeal of Florida, Fourth District. Walter D. PADOW, M.D., P.A., Appellant, v. KNOLLWOOD CLUB ASSOCIATION, INC., a Florida not-for-profit corporation, Appellee. No. 4D02-470. | Jan. 29, 2003. | Rehearing Denied March 20, 2003.
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See Alhambra Homeowners’ Association, Inc. vs. Asad, 943 So.2d 316 (Fla. 4th DCA 2006)
http://www.4dca.org/Dec%202006/12-13-06/4D06-835.op.pdf
This involves voluntary dismissal of a suit without prejudice, but I imagine the same would result when a party is dropped.
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I never dismiss or excuse a party in a lien foreclosure for any reason unless I first get either a stipulation or court order that each side bears their own fees. Although I don't know any law on point, I wouldn't be comfortable that it's a foregone conclusion that the dismissed old tenant did not prevail.
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(Hopefully) Quick/easy question for the brain trust:
Contractor has improvements contract with tenant, is not paid. Contract contains no prevailing-party fees provision.
Contractor sues landlord and tenant under Lien Law to foreclose construction lien. (Assume lien is good against landlord.)
Prior to trial, landlord evicts tenant and re-leases property to another tenant.
Learning of the eviction, Contractor amends complaint to substitute new tenant for old tenant.
My stupid question: Is the old tenant now the prevailing party under §713.29 as to the contractor?
I would think absolutely not, that this has to have come up before, and that the applicable law would be relatively easy to identify, but not so/yet. Any cites or insights you could offer would be appreciated.
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Thank you Lee and Charles.
The banks attorney is asserting that it was an assignment of the loan from
the FDIC. I dont know if that makes a difference under DOench or not
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Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 12:35 PM
To: 'RPPTL constructionlaw'
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] D'Oench/Duhme and Fla. Stat. 713.3471
I have two cases where this exact issue is involved, and the purchasing bank
does not have any liability under 713.3471 under the FDIC sale agreement.
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Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 12:03 PM
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Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] D'Oench/Duhme and Fla. Stat. 713.3471
Although I don't know the answer to your specific question, you did mention
that the FDIC sold the ASSETS to the successor bank. If that's the case,
then they may not have transferred the liability. The successor bank may
not be liable at all for the original bank's failure to comply with
713.3471.
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Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 11:33 AM
To: 'RPPTL constructionlaw'
Subject: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] D'Oench/Duhme and Fla. Stat. 713.3471
Folks, I have a question relating to the interplay of a statutory claim
under Chapter 713 and the DOench/Duhme defense.
Lienor gets pulled into a commercial mortgage foreclosure on a large
construction project. The original lender did not provide notice of its
intent to cease disbursement of funds pursuant to F.S. 713.3471.
Subsequently, the original bank failed (big surprise) and the FDIC took
over. The FDIC sold assets to another bank, which then instituted the
mortgage foreclosure.
Lienor files a counterclaim for violation of 713.3471. On motion to dismiss,
the Bank raises the DOench/Duhme doctrine, which is now codified in 12
U.S.C. 1823(e), to defeat the statutory claim.
My understanding of DOench/Duhme is that it is/was intended to prevent oral
agreements between a failed bank and its customer that the FDIC/purchasing
bank could not be aware of. However, it seems to be applied fairly liberally
and appears to defeat most claims. I also read somewhere that the
DOench/Duhme doctrine will defeat even statutory claims. However, I did not
find a Florida case on point in my research.
Has anyone dealt (or currently dealing) with a similar situation? If so,
what was the outcome? Can anyone direct me to case law that discusses
DOench/Duhme and statutory claims?
Thoughts or comments would be appreciated.
Jason A. Brazelton, Esquire
Moody and Shea, P.A.
14501 Walsingham Road
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Kelly
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 10:35 AM
To: 'RPPTL constructionlaw'
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] Fees Question
I agree with Don in the sense that the most direct route may be procedural
with the voluntary dismissal. Under the voluntary dismissal fees go to the
party (defendant) that was dismissed in certain jurisdictions. Last I
checked, there is a conflict between jurisdictions and the award of fees to
a party that was voluntarily dismissed.
839 So.2d 744, District Court of Appeal of Florida, Fourth District. Walter
D. PADOW, M.D., P.A., Appellant, v. KNOLLWOOD CLUB ASSOCIATION, INC., a
Florida not-for-profit corporation, Appellee. No. 4D02-470. | Jan. 29, 2003.
| Rehearing Denied March 20, 2003.
Sincerely,
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St. Petersburg, Florida 33713
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Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 9:46 AM
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See Alhambra Homeowners Association, Inc. vs. Asad, 943 So.2d 316 (Fla. 4th
DCA 2006)
http://www.4dca.org/Dec%202006/12-13-06/4D06-835.op.pdf
This involves voluntary dismissal of a suit without prejudice, but I imagine
the same would result when a party is dropped.
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I never dismiss or excuse a party in a lien foreclosure for any reason
unless I first get either a stipulation or court order that each side bears
their own fees. Although I don't know any law on point, I wouldn't be
comfortable that it's a foregone conclusion that the dismissed old tenant
did not prevail.
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Subject: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] Fees Question
(Hopefully) Quick/easy question for the brain trust:
Contractor has improvements contract with tenant, is not paid. Contract
contains no prevailing-party fees provision.
Contractor sues landlord and tenant under Lien Law to foreclose construction
lien. (Assume lien is good against landlord.)
Prior to trial, landlord evicts tenant and re-leases property to another
tenant.
Learning of the eviction, Contractor amends complaint to substitute new
tenant for old tenant.
My stupid question: Is the old tenant now the prevailing party under
§713.29 as to the contractor?
I would think absolutely not, that this has to have come up before, and that
the applicable law would be relatively easy to identify, but not so/yet.
Any cites or insights you could offer would be appreciated.
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Thank you Lee and Charles.
The banks attorney is asserting that it was an assignment of the loan from
the FDIC. I dont know if that makes a difference under DOench or not
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Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 12:35 PM
To: 'RPPTL constructionlaw'
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] D'Oench/Duhme and Fla. Stat. 713.3471
I have two cases where this exact issue is involved, and the purchasing bank
does not have any liability under 713.3471 under the FDIC sale agreement.
Charles B. Hernicz, Esq.
Board Certified in Construction Law by The Florida Bar
Hernicz Legal Services, P.L.
15854 Bent Creek Road
Wellington, FL 33414
Telephone: (561) 753-7511
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Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 12:03 PM
To: RPPTL constructionlaw
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] D'Oench/Duhme and Fla. Stat. 713.3471
Although I don't know the answer to your specific question, you did mention
that the FDIC sold the ASSETS to the successor bank. If that's the case,
then they may not have transferred the liability. The successor bank may
not be liable at all for the original bank's failure to comply with
713.3471.
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Emerald Lake Corporate Park
3111 Stirling Road
Fort Lauderdale, FL 33312-6525
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Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 11:33 AM
To: 'RPPTL constructionlaw'
Subject: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] D'Oench/Duhme and Fla. Stat. 713.3471
Folks, I have a question relating to the interplay of a statutory claim
under Chapter 713 and the DOench/Duhme defense.
Lienor gets pulled into a commercial mortgage foreclosure on a large
construction project. The original lender did not provide notice of its
intent to cease disbursement of funds pursuant to F.S. 713.3471.
Subsequently, the original bank failed (big surprise) and the FDIC took
over. The FDIC sold assets to another bank, which then instituted the
mortgage foreclosure.
Lienor files a counterclaim for violation of 713.3471. On motion to dismiss,
the Bank raises the DOench/Duhme doctrine, which is now codified in 12
U.S.C. 1823(e), to defeat the statutory claim.
My understanding of DOench/Duhme is that it is/was intended to prevent oral
agreements between a failed bank and its customer that the FDIC/purchasing
bank could not be aware of. However, it seems to be applied fairly liberally
and appears to defeat most claims. I also read somewhere that the
DOench/Duhme doctrine will defeat even statutory claims. However, I did not
find a Florida case on point in my research.
Has anyone dealt (or currently dealing) with a similar situation? If so,
what was the outcome? Can anyone direct me to case law that discusses
DOench/Duhme and statutory claims?
Thoughts or comments would be appreciated.
Jason A. Brazelton, Esquire
Moody and Shea, P.A.
14501 Walsingham Road
Largo, Florida 33774
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I agree with Don in the sense that the most direct route may be procedural
with the voluntary dismissal. Under the voluntary dismissal fees go to the
party (defendant) that was dismissed in certain jurisdictions. Last I
checked, there is a conflict between jurisdictions and the award of fees to
a party that was voluntarily dismissed.
839 So.2d 744, District Court of Appeal of Florida, Fourth District. Walter
D. PADOW, M.D., P.A., Appellant, v. KNOLLWOOD CLUB ASSOCIATION, INC., a
Florida not-for-profit corporation, Appellee. No. 4D02-470. | Jan. 29, 2003.
| Rehearing Denied March 20, 2003.
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See Alhambra Homeowners Association, Inc. vs. Asad, 943 So.2d 316 (Fla. 4th
DCA 2006)
http://www.4dca.org/Dec%202006/12-13-06/4D06-835.op.pdf
This involves voluntary dismissal of a suit without prejudice, but I imagine
the same would result when a party is dropped.
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I never dismiss or excuse a party in a lien foreclosure for any reason
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their own fees. Although I don't know any law on point, I wouldn't be
comfortable that it's a foregone conclusion that the dismissed old tenant
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(Hopefully) Quick/easy question for the brain trust:
Contractor has improvements contract with tenant, is not paid. Contract
contains no prevailing-party fees provision.
Contractor sues landlord and tenant under Lien Law to foreclose construction
lien. (Assume lien is good against landlord.)
Prior to trial, landlord evicts tenant and re-leases property to another
tenant.
Learning of the eviction, Contractor amends complaint to substitute new
tenant for old tenant.
My stupid question: Is the old tenant now the prevailing party under
§713.29 as to the contractor?
I would think absolutely not, that this has to have come up before, and that
the applicable law would be relatively easy to identify, but not so/yet.
Any cites or insights you could offer would be appreciated.
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Get the assignment. I litigated a case like this in federal court last year (although D'Oench wasn't raised) and the transferring documents from FDIC to the new bank excluded liabilities of the original bank.
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Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] D'Oench/Duhme and Fla. Stat. 713.3471
Thank you Lee and Charles.
The bank's attorney is asserting that it was an assignment of the loan from the FDIC. I don't know if that makes a difference under D'Oench or not...
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I have two cases where this exact issue is involved, and the purchasing bank does not have any liability under 713.3471 under the FDIC sale agreement.
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Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] D'Oench/Duhme and Fla. Stat. 713.3471
Although I don't know the answer to your specific question, you did mention that the FDIC sold the ASSETS to the successor bank. If that's the case, then they may not have transferred the liability. The successor bank may not be liable at all for the original bank's failure to comply with 713.3471.
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Subject: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] D'Oench/Duhme and Fla. Stat. 713.3471
Folks, I have a question relating to the interplay of a statutory claim under Chapter 713 and the D'Oench/Duhme defense.
Lienor gets pulled into a commercial mortgage foreclosure on a large construction project. The original lender did not provide notice of its intent to cease disbursement of funds pursuant to F.S. 713.3471. Subsequently, the original bank failed (big surprise) and the FDIC took over. The FDIC sold assets to another bank, which then instituted the mortgage foreclosure.
Lienor files a counterclaim for violation of 713.3471. On motion to dismiss, the Bank raises the D'Oench/Duhme doctrine, which is now codified in 12 U.S.C. 1823(e), to defeat the statutory claim.
My understanding of D'Oench/Duhme is that it is/was intended to prevent oral agreements between a failed bank and its customer that the FDIC/purchasing bank could not be aware of. However, it seems to be applied fairly liberally and appears to defeat most claims. I also read somewhere that the D'Oench/Duhme doctrine will defeat even statutory claims. However, I did not find a Florida case on point in my research.
Has anyone dealt (or currently dealing) with a similar situation? If so, what was the outcome? Can anyone direct me to case law that discusses D'Oench/Duhme and statutory claims?
Thoughts or comments would be appreciated.
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I agree with Don in the sense that the most direct route may be procedural with the voluntary dismissal. Under the voluntary dismissal fees go to the party (defendant) that was dismissed in certain jurisdictions. Last I checked, there is a conflict between jurisdictions and the award of fees to a party that was voluntarily dismissed.
839 So.2d 744, District Court of Appeal of Florida, Fourth District. Walter D. PADOW, M.D., P.A., Appellant, v. KNOLLWOOD CLUB ASSOCIATION, INC., a Florida not-for-profit corporation, Appellee. No. 4D02-470. | Jan. 29, 2003. | Rehearing Denied March 20, 2003.
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Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] Fees Question
See Alhambra Homeowners' Association, Inc. vs. Asad, 943 So.2d 316 (Fla. 4th DCA 2006)
http://www.4dca.org/Dec%202006/12-13-06/4D06-835.op.pdf
This involves voluntary dismissal of a suit without prejudice, but I imagine the same would result when a party is dropped.
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I never dismiss or excuse a party in a lien foreclosure for any reason unless I first get either a stipulation or court order that each side bears their own fees. Although I don't know any law on point, I wouldn't be comfortable that it's a foregone conclusion that the dismissed old tenant did not prevail.
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From: constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] mailto:%5bmailto:constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org%5d On Behalf Of Bryan L. Capps
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(Hopefully) Quick/easy question for the brain trust:
Contractor has improvements contract with tenant, is not paid. Contract contains no prevailing-party fees provision.
Contractor sues landlord and tenant under Lien Law to foreclose construction lien. (Assume lien is good against landlord.)
Prior to trial, landlord evicts tenant and re-leases property to another tenant.
Learning of the eviction, Contractor amends complaint to substitute new tenant for old tenant.
My stupid question: Is the old tenant now the prevailing party under §713.29 as to the contractor?
I would think absolutely not, that this has to have come up before, and that the applicable law would be relatively easy to identify, but not so/yet. Any cites or insights you could offer would be appreciated.
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Get the assignment. I litigated a case like this in federal court last year (although D'Oench wasn't raised) and the transferring documents from FDIC to the new bank excluded liabilities of the original bank.
Lee A. Weintraub
Board Certified Construction Lawyer
Becker & Poliakoff, P.A.
Emerald Lake Corporate Park
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Fort Lauderdale, FL 33312-6525
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Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 2:57 PM
To: CHernicz@herniczlegal.com; 'RPPTL constructionlaw'
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] D'Oench/Duhme and Fla. Stat. 713.3471
Thank you Lee and Charles.
The bank's attorney is asserting that it was an assignment of the loan from the FDIC. I don't know if that makes a difference under D'Oench or not...
Jason A. Brazelton, Esquire
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Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 12:35 PM
To: 'RPPTL constructionlaw'
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] D'Oench/Duhme and Fla. Stat. 713.3471
I have two cases where this exact issue is involved, and the purchasing bank does not have any liability under 713.3471 under the FDIC sale agreement.
Charles B. Hernicz, Esq.
Board Certified in Construction Law by The Florida Bar
Hernicz Legal Services, P.L.
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Wellington, FL 33414
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Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 12:03 PM
To: RPPTL constructionlaw
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] D'Oench/Duhme and Fla. Stat. 713.3471
Although I don't know the answer to your specific question, you did mention that the FDIC sold the ASSETS to the successor bank. If that's the case, then they may not have transferred the liability. The successor bank may not be liable at all for the original bank's failure to comply with 713.3471.
Lee A. Weintraub
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Emerald Lake Corporate Park
3111 Stirling Road
Fort Lauderdale, FL 33312-6525
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Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 11:33 AM
To: 'RPPTL constructionlaw'
Subject: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] D'Oench/Duhme and Fla. Stat. 713.3471
Folks, I have a question relating to the interplay of a statutory claim under Chapter 713 and the D'Oench/Duhme defense.
Lienor gets pulled into a commercial mortgage foreclosure on a large construction project. The original lender did not provide notice of its intent to cease disbursement of funds pursuant to F.S. 713.3471. Subsequently, the original bank failed (big surprise) and the FDIC took over. The FDIC sold assets to another bank, which then instituted the mortgage foreclosure.
Lienor files a counterclaim for violation of 713.3471. On motion to dismiss, the Bank raises the D'Oench/Duhme doctrine, which is now codified in 12 U.S.C. 1823(e), to defeat the statutory claim.
My understanding of D'Oench/Duhme is that it is/was intended to prevent oral agreements between a failed bank and its customer that the FDIC/purchasing bank could not be aware of. However, it seems to be applied fairly liberally and appears to defeat most claims. I also read somewhere that the D'Oench/Duhme doctrine will defeat even statutory claims. However, I did not find a Florida case on point in my research.
Has anyone dealt (or currently dealing) with a similar situation? If so, what was the outcome? Can anyone direct me to case law that discusses D'Oench/Duhme and statutory claims?
Thoughts or comments would be appreciated.
Jason A. Brazelton, Esquire
Moody and Shea, P.A.
14501 Walsingham Road
Largo, Florida 33774
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Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 10:35 AM
To: 'RPPTL constructionlaw'
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] Fees Question
I agree with Don in the sense that the most direct route may be procedural with the voluntary dismissal. Under the voluntary dismissal fees go to the party (defendant) that was dismissed in certain jurisdictions. Last I checked, there is a conflict between jurisdictions and the award of fees to a party that was voluntarily dismissed.
839 So.2d 744, District Court of Appeal of Florida, Fourth District. Walter D. PADOW, M.D., P.A., Appellant, v. KNOLLWOOD CLUB ASSOCIATION, INC., a Florida not-for-profit corporation, Appellee. No. 4D02-470. | Jan. 29, 2003. | Rehearing Denied March 20, 2003.
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From: constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Donald R. Walters, Esq.
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Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] Fees Question
See Alhambra Homeowners' Association, Inc. vs. Asad, 943 So.2d 316 (Fla. 4th DCA 2006)
http://www.4dca.org/Dec%202006/12-13-06/4D06-835.op.pdf
This involves voluntary dismissal of a suit without prejudice, but I imagine the same would result when a party is dropped.
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I never dismiss or excuse a party in a lien foreclosure for any reason unless I first get either a stipulation or court order that each side bears their own fees. Although I don't know any law on point, I wouldn't be comfortable that it's a foregone conclusion that the dismissed old tenant did not prevail.
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(Hopefully) Quick/easy question for the brain trust:
Contractor has improvements contract with tenant, is not paid. Contract contains no prevailing-party fees provision.
Contractor sues landlord and tenant under Lien Law to foreclose construction lien. (Assume lien is good against landlord.)
Prior to trial, landlord evicts tenant and re-leases property to another tenant.
Learning of the eviction, Contractor amends complaint to substitute new tenant for old tenant.
My stupid question: Is the old tenant now the prevailing party under §713.29 as to the contractor?
I would think absolutely not, that this has to have come up before, and that the applicable law would be relatively easy to identify, but not so/yet. Any cites or insights you could offer would be appreciated.
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Keith Lichtman
Thu, Mar 1, 2012 6:05 PM
I am trying to find someone to serve as an expert witness with extensive experience erecting pre-engineered metal buildings and the related work that entails (setting the anchor bolts etc. etc.).
If anyone knows of people with extensive experience doing this, preferably in or near the Savannah, GA area, please let my partner, Richard Storrs (copied here) and me know.
Thanks for your help.
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I am trying to find someone to serve as an expert witness with extensive experience erecting pre-engineered metal buildings and the related work that entails (setting the anchor bolts etc. etc.).
If anyone knows of people with extensive experience doing this, preferably in or near the Savannah, GA area, please let my partner, Richard Storrs (copied here) and me know.
Thanks for your help.
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Keith Lichtman
1355 Peachtree Street NE
Suite 1550
Atlanta, GA 30309
Tel. 404-870-8200
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Charles B. Hernicz, Esq
Thu, Mar 1, 2012 10:25 PM
Keith, one of my clients (information below) is a PE who specializes in concrete restoration but has constructed a number of metal buildings and has a GC in the Savannah area who recently built a metal hangar for him and has built about 1000 metal buildings. Dave smakes a very good witness himself, and he'd be happy to talk to you and give the the GC's information as well---give him a call.
Chuck
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Subject: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] Metal Building Erector Expert in or near Savannah, GA?
I am trying to find someone to serve as an expert witness with extensive experience erecting pre-engineered metal buildings and the related work that entails (setting the anchor bolts etc. etc.).
If anyone knows of people with extensive experience doing this, preferably in or near the Savannah, GA area, please let my partner, Richard Storrs (copied here) and me know.
Thanks for your help.
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Keith Lichtman
1355 Peachtree Street NE
Suite 1550
Atlanta, GA 30309
Tel. 404-870-8200
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Keith, one of my clients (information below) is a PE who specializes in concrete restoration but has constructed a number of metal buildings and has a GC in the Savannah area who recently built a metal hangar for him and has built about 1000 metal buildings. Dave smakes a very good witness himself, and he'd be happy to talk to you and give the the GC's information as well---give him a call.
Chuck
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Board Certified in Construction Law by The Florida Bar
Hernicz Legal Services, P.L.
15854 Bent Creek Road
Wellington, FL 33414
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David T Colston, PE
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Structural Engineering Associates, Inc.
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From: constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Keith Lichtman
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 1:06 PM
To: RPPTL constructionlaw
Cc: Richard J. Storrs
Subject: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] Metal Building Erector Expert in or near Savannah, GA?
I am trying to find someone to serve as an expert witness with extensive experience erecting pre-engineered metal buildings and the related work that entails (setting the anchor bolts etc. etc.).
If anyone knows of people with extensive experience doing this, preferably in or near the Savannah, GA area, please let my partner, Richard Storrs (copied here) and me know.
Thanks for your help.
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Keith Lichtman
1355 Peachtree Street NE
Suite 1550
Atlanta, GA 30309
Tel. 404-870-8200
Fax. 404-870-3080
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