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[RPPTL LandTen] County Court Pure Possession Action - Question on unauthorized affiliated non-tenant entities co-occupying a premises.

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Michael Grant
Thu, Oct 20, 2011 3:02 PM

I have a situation where the "Tenant" entity has several unauthorized
affiliated entities with common officers and registered agent showing
the Premises as their  Principal Address, Mailing Address, and
Registered Agent's Address according to Sunbiz.org.

The "Tenant" owes over $50K in past due rent and has been served with a
proper three day notice to pay rent or deliver possession.

Must I name and serve all of the entities in the possession action in
one count; separate counts - I for the "Tenant" under its leasehold
interest and II for the unauthorized affiliated entities in possession;
or, only the "Tenant"?

All comments are greatly appreciated.

Michael L. Grant, Esq.

RICHARD B. WARREN, P.A.

1555 Palm Beach Lakes Boulevard, Suite 1006

West Palm Beach, FL  33401

Telephone: (561) 681-9494 | Facsimile: (561) 681-9436

WWW.RBWARRENLAW.COM http://WWW.RBWARRENLAW.COM

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I have a situation where the "Tenant" entity has several unauthorized affiliated entities with common officers and registered agent showing the Premises as their Principal Address, Mailing Address, and Registered Agent's Address according to Sunbiz.org. The "Tenant" owes over $50K in past due rent and has been served with a proper three day notice to pay rent or deliver possession. Must I name and serve all of the entities in the possession action in one count; separate counts - I for the "Tenant" under its leasehold interest and II for the unauthorized affiliated entities in possession; or, only the "Tenant"? All comments are greatly appreciated. Michael L. Grant, Esq. RICHARD B. WARREN, P.A. 1555 Palm Beach Lakes Boulevard, Suite 1006 West Palm Beach, FL 33401 Telephone: (561) 681-9494 | Facsimile: (561) 681-9436 WWW.RBWARRENLAW.COM <http://WWW.RBWARRENLAW.COM> The information contained in this e-mail transmission is privileged and confidential. If you are not the intended recipient or an employee or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination or copying of this transmission (including any attachments) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail. Thank you.
JM
Jeff Mazor
Thu, Oct 20, 2011 3:17 PM

The traditional approach would be to address the Notice to Pay or Vacate to
"XYZ and All others in Possession", draft the Complaint the same way, and
made it only one count for possession.  Be aware, however, that there is
almost no case law addressing or even mentioning "and all others in
possession" and some judges up-state have rejected a few of my residential
cases because of that language, although frankly, I haven't gotten a
coherent explanation for the rejection.

Alternatively, if you know the names of all the others, you could name them,
but you would have to redo the Notice to Pay or Vacate and include their
names there and in the Complaint. Approach them as subtenants and for
failure to pay rent. Don't turn them into something that might require an
ejectment action..

Jeffrey R. Mazor, Esq.

J. R. Mazor & Associates, P.A.

Presidential Circle Building

4000 Hollywood Blvd.,  Suite 265-s

Hollywood, FL 33021

Phone: 954-962-3500

Fax:      954-962-3560

Email:  JMazor@Mazor.com

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[mailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Michael Grant
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 11:02 AM
To: RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee
Subject: [RPPTL LandTen] County Court Pure Possession Action - Question on
unauthorized affiliated non-tenant entities co-occupying a premises.

I have a situation where the "Tenant" entity has several unauthorized
affiliated entities with common officers and registered agent showing the
Premises as their  Principal Address, Mailing Address, and Registered
Agent's Address according to Sunbiz.org.

The "Tenant" owes over $50K in past due rent and has been served with a
proper three day notice to pay rent or deliver possession.

Must I name and serve all of the entities in the possession action in one
count; separate counts - I for the "Tenant" under its leasehold interest and
II for the unauthorized affiliated entities in possession; or, only the
"Tenant"?

All comments are greatly appreciated.

Michael L. Grant, Esq.

RICHARD B. WARREN, P.A.

1555 Palm Beach Lakes Boulevard, Suite 1006

West Palm Beach, FL  33401

Telephone: (561) 681-9494 | Facsimile: (561) 681-9436

WWW.RBWARRENLAW.COM

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The traditional approach would be to address the Notice to Pay or Vacate to "XYZ and All others in Possession", draft the Complaint the same way, and made it only one count for possession. Be aware, however, that there is almost no case law addressing or even mentioning "and all others in possession" and some judges up-state have rejected a few of my residential cases because of that language, although frankly, I haven't gotten a coherent explanation for the rejection. Alternatively, if you know the names of all the others, you could name them, but you would have to redo the Notice to Pay or Vacate and include their names there and in the Complaint. Approach them as subtenants and for failure to pay rent. Don't turn them into something that might require an ejectment action.. Jeffrey R. Mazor, Esq. J. R. Mazor & Associates, P.A. Presidential Circle Building 4000 Hollywood Blvd., Suite 265-s Hollywood, FL 33021 Phone: 954-962-3500 Fax: 954-962-3560 Email: JMazor@Mazor.com From: landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Michael Grant Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 11:02 AM To: RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee Subject: [RPPTL LandTen] County Court Pure Possession Action - Question on unauthorized affiliated non-tenant entities co-occupying a premises. I have a situation where the "Tenant" entity has several unauthorized affiliated entities with common officers and registered agent showing the Premises as their Principal Address, Mailing Address, and Registered Agent's Address according to Sunbiz.org. The "Tenant" owes over $50K in past due rent and has been served with a proper three day notice to pay rent or deliver possession. Must I name and serve all of the entities in the possession action in one count; separate counts - I for the "Tenant" under its leasehold interest and II for the unauthorized affiliated entities in possession; or, only the "Tenant"? All comments are greatly appreciated. Michael L. Grant, Esq. RICHARD B. WARREN, P.A. 1555 Palm Beach Lakes Boulevard, Suite 1006 West Palm Beach, FL 33401 Telephone: (561) 681-9494 | Facsimile: (561) 681-9436 WWW.RBWARRENLAW.COM Description: Description: cid:image001.jpg@01CBA5CE.BF828880 The information contained in this e-mail transmission is privileged and confidential. If you are not the intended recipient or an employee or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination or copying of this transmission (including any attachments) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail. Thank you.
PH
Phyllis Harley
Thu, Oct 20, 2011 5:16 PM

I don't believe there is a MUST in there, but the additional tenant(s)
may attempt to hang on to possession if not noticed and included in the
eviction (I have rarely dealt with that in residential issues).  They
are usually taken care of with the 'unknown tenant' being served and
processed just like the tenant that signed on the lease.

Sincerely,

Phyllis Harley, Esquire

Harley Law Offices, P.A.

4417 13th Street, #177

Saint Cloud, FL  34769

321.766.6024

www.harleylawoffices.com

From: landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org
[mailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Mazor
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 11:18 AM
To: 'RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee'
Subject: Re: [RPPTL LandTen] County Court Pure Possession Action -
Questionon unauthorized affiliated non-tenant entities co-occupying
apremises. [Scanned]

The traditional approach would be to address the Notice to Pay or Vacate
to "XYZ and All others in Possession", draft the Complaint the same way,
and made it only one count for possession.  Be aware, however, that
there is almost no case law addressing or even mentioning "and all
others in possession" and some judges up-state have rejected a few of my
residential cases because of that language, although frankly, I haven't
gotten a coherent explanation for the rejection.

Alternatively, if you know the names of all the others, you could name
them, but you would have to redo the Notice to Pay or Vacate and include
their names there and in the Complaint. Approach them as subtenants and
for failure to pay rent. Don't turn them into something that might
require an ejectment action..

Jeffrey R. Mazor, Esq.

J. R. Mazor & Associates, P.A.

Presidential Circle Building

4000 Hollywood Blvd.,  Suite 265-s

Hollywood, FL 33021

Phone: 954-962-3500

Fax:      954-962-3560

Email:  JMazor@Mazor.com

From: landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org
[mailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Michael
Grant
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 11:02 AM
To: RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee
Subject: [RPPTL LandTen] County Court Pure Possession Action - Question
on unauthorized affiliated non-tenant entities co-occupying a premises.

I have a situation where the "Tenant" entity has several unauthorized
affiliated entities with common officers and registered agent showing
the Premises as their  Principal Address, Mailing Address, and
Registered Agent's Address according to Sunbiz.org.

The "Tenant" owes over $50K in past due rent and has been served with a
proper three day notice to pay rent or deliver possession.

Must I name and serve all of the entities in the possession action in
one count; separate counts - I for the "Tenant" under its leasehold
interest and II for the unauthorized affiliated entities in possession;
or, only the "Tenant"?

All comments are greatly appreciated.

Michael L. Grant, Esq.

RICHARD B. WARREN, P.A.

1555 Palm Beach Lakes Boulevard, Suite 1006

West Palm Beach, FL  33401

Telephone: (561) 681-9494 | Facsimile: (561) 681-9436

WWW.RBWARRENLAW.COM

The information contained in this e-mail transmission is privileged and
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I don't believe there is a MUST in there, but the additional tenant(s) may attempt to hang on to possession if not noticed and included in the eviction (I have rarely dealt with that in residential issues). They are usually taken care of with the 'unknown tenant' being served and processed just like the tenant that signed on the lease. Sincerely, Phyllis Harley, Esquire Harley Law Offices, P.A. 4417 13th Street, #177 Saint Cloud, FL 34769 321.766.6024 www.harleylawoffices.com From: landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Mazor Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 11:18 AM To: 'RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee' Subject: Re: [RPPTL LandTen] County Court Pure Possession Action - Questionon unauthorized affiliated non-tenant entities co-occupying apremises. [Scanned] The traditional approach would be to address the Notice to Pay or Vacate to "XYZ and All others in Possession", draft the Complaint the same way, and made it only one count for possession. Be aware, however, that there is almost no case law addressing or even mentioning "and all others in possession" and some judges up-state have rejected a few of my residential cases because of that language, although frankly, I haven't gotten a coherent explanation for the rejection. Alternatively, if you know the names of all the others, you could name them, but you would have to redo the Notice to Pay or Vacate and include their names there and in the Complaint. Approach them as subtenants and for failure to pay rent. Don't turn them into something that might require an ejectment action.. Jeffrey R. Mazor, Esq. J. R. Mazor & Associates, P.A. Presidential Circle Building 4000 Hollywood Blvd., Suite 265-s Hollywood, FL 33021 Phone: 954-962-3500 Fax: 954-962-3560 Email: JMazor@Mazor.com From: landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Michael Grant Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 11:02 AM To: RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee Subject: [RPPTL LandTen] County Court Pure Possession Action - Question on unauthorized affiliated non-tenant entities co-occupying a premises. I have a situation where the "Tenant" entity has several unauthorized affiliated entities with common officers and registered agent showing the Premises as their Principal Address, Mailing Address, and Registered Agent's Address according to Sunbiz.org. The "Tenant" owes over $50K in past due rent and has been served with a proper three day notice to pay rent or deliver possession. Must I name and serve all of the entities in the possession action in one count; separate counts - I for the "Tenant" under its leasehold interest and II for the unauthorized affiliated entities in possession; or, only the "Tenant"? All comments are greatly appreciated. Michael L. Grant, Esq. RICHARD B. WARREN, P.A. 1555 Palm Beach Lakes Boulevard, Suite 1006 West Palm Beach, FL 33401 Telephone: (561) 681-9494 | Facsimile: (561) 681-9436 WWW.RBWARRENLAW.COM The information contained in this e-mail transmission is privileged and confidential. If you are not the intended recipient or an employee or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination or copying of this transmission (including any attachments) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail. Thank you.