Our Committee has been asked to provide comments with respect to the attached proposed Bills. Senate Bill 738 creates notice prerequisites prior to termination of residential tenancies by a successor in interest by foreclosure to harmonize with the Federal Protecting Tenants at Foreclosure Act of 2009.
SB 784 modifies Section 83.49 relating to security deposits in event of foreclosure and creating Section 83.683 dealing again with notification of residential tenants prior to termination in foreclosure. Note the sunset of this law n 2013.
Please provide any specific comments on these bills by no later than end of the day on Friday so that they may be passed onto our legislative committee. You may give comments directly to our Co-Chair Scott Frank.
Thank you.
Neil
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83.49(10) gives the foreclosing lender the option of requiring the landlord
to turn over tenant deposits and advance rent to the lender rather than
depositing in the court registry. Although, I think it is a bad idea, my
opinion is leave the monies in the Court Registry to maintain the status quo
and protect the money, I can foresee the following scenarios:
Tenants who move during the pendency of the foreclosure will not get
their security deposits back from the landlord in the time frame provided by
the LL/T Act, because the lender is holding the money. Foreclosure firms
that are notorious for lack of communication will force tenants to sue the
landlord or intervene in foreclosure to get deposits back.
Conversely, if the landlord makes claim on the security deposit or the
tenant, as sometimes happens, decides to use his security deposit as rent,
is the lender going to return the money to the landlord or use it to offset
the debt owed to the lender.
What if Lender goes under or is taken over by FDIC, where is the money
then and how are security deposit claims or returns made.
I think if the lender is going to hold security deposits there must be some
obligation built in regarding the lender's obligation to maintain the money
safe, like their lawyer's trust account that has unlimited FDIC protection,
and how the money can either be claimed by the tenant or landlord.
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[mailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Neil B. Shoter
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 11:34 PM
To: 'RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee'
Cc: 'Law Offices of Scott A. Frank'
Subject: [RPPTL LandTen] (no subject)
Our Committee has been asked to provide comments with respect to the
attached proposed Bills. Senate Bill 738 creates notice prerequisites prior
to termination of residential tenancies by a successor in interest by
foreclosure to harmonize with the Federal Protecting Tenants at Foreclosure
Act of 2009.
SB 784 modifies Section 83.49 relating to security deposits in event of
foreclosure and creating Section 83.683 dealing again with notification of
residential tenants prior to termination in foreclosure. Note the sunset of
this law n 2013.
Please provide any specific comments on these bills by no later than end of
the day on Friday so that they may be passed onto our legislative committee.
You may give comments directly to our Co-Chair Scott Frank.
Thank you.
Neil
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While I like the idea, I think that the proposal in 83.49 is going to cause more trouble than cash. It is going to have lenders or annoyed tenants filing criminal charges which will have to be dealt with.
Anyone who thinks that a defaulting property owner will come forward with the security deposit and advance rent also believes that the same person has these funds in a separate bank account, probably at the First Bank of the Easter Bunny.
Rather than make it criminal, why not provide a right of setoff to let the tenant do what they are going to do anyway.
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To: 'RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee'
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Subject: [RPPTL LandTen] (no subject)
Our Committee has been asked to provide comments with respect to the attached proposed Bills. Senate Bill 738 creates notice prerequisites prior to termination of residential tenancies by a successor in interest by foreclosure to harmonize with the Federal Protecting Tenants at Foreclosure Act of 2009.
SB 784 modifies Section 83.49 relating to security deposits in event of foreclosure and creating Section 83.683 dealing again with notification of residential tenants prior to termination in foreclosure. Note the sunset of this law n 2013.
Please provide any specific comments on these bills by no later than end of the day on Friday so that they may be passed onto our legislative committee. You may give comments directly to our Co-Chair Scott Frank.
Thank you.
Neil
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My experience is that the lenders want absolutely nothing to do with the
security deposits. They won't accept them if you can even find them.
I think the safest thing is for the money to go into the court registry and
then the tenant has to motion for the money out. The property manager can
be forced to notify the tenant what he has done with the deposit. What
happens though if the tenant motions for the money out but still are living
there, possibly and usually in default? In my experience, the banks could
care less. What happens if the foreclosure is dismissed but the tenant has
received the money back?
I have hundreds of Realtor clients who have no clue what to do with the
deposits when the owner walks away, the property is in foreclosure or near
foreclosure, FREC will not give any guidance and they are put in really bad
situations as am I as I cannot give safe advice. It is a daily problem for
me.
It is a burden on the tenant to get involved in a Circuit Court case with
all the people who may need to be notified of the motion but possibly this
can be combined with a notification process that tells the tenant how to
motion for the money. I can't see the banks fighting for the money in most
cases. They are a complete mess.
I have no answers.
Harry
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Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 11:36 AM
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83.49(10) gives the foreclosing lender the option of requiring the landlord
to turn over tenant deposits and advance rent to the lender rather than
depositing in the court registry. Although, I think it is a bad idea, my
opinion is leave the monies in the Court Registry to maintain the status quo
and protect the money, I can foresee the following scenarios:
Tenants who move during the pendency of the foreclosure will not get
their security deposits back from the landlord in the time frame provided by
the LL/T Act, because the lender is holding the money. Foreclosure firms
that are notorious for lack of communication will force tenants to sue the
landlord or intervene in foreclosure to get deposits back.
Conversely, if the landlord makes claim on the security deposit or the
tenant, as sometimes happens, decides to use his security deposit as rent,
is the lender going to return the money to the landlord or use it to offset
the debt owed to the lender.
What if Lender goes under or is taken over by FDIC, where is the money
then and how are security deposit claims or returns made.
I think if the lender is going to hold security deposits there must be some
obligation built in regarding the lender's obligation to maintain the money
safe, like their lawyer's trust account that has unlimited FDIC protection,
and how the money can either be claimed by the tenant or landlord.
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[mailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Neil B. Shoter
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 11:34 PM
To: 'RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee'
Cc: 'Law Offices of Scott A. Frank'
Subject: [RPPTL LandTen] (no subject)
Our Committee has been asked to provide comments with respect to the
attached proposed Bills. Senate Bill 738 creates notice prerequisites prior
to termination of residential tenancies by a successor in interest by
foreclosure to harmonize with the Federal Protecting Tenants at Foreclosure
Act of 2009.
SB 784 modifies Section 83.49 relating to security deposits in event of
foreclosure and creating Section 83.683 dealing again with notification of
residential tenants prior to termination in foreclosure. Note the sunset of
this law n 2013.
Please provide any specific comments on these bills by no later than end of
the day on Friday so that they may be passed onto our legislative committee.
You may give comments directly to our Co-Chair Scott Frank.
Thank you.
Neil
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Just a random thought...if the Lender is not going to "foreclose" the
tenant, then they are responsible for any security deposit which was posted
by Tenant, similar to an advance of taxes, etc. for the property, and add
same to any deficiency they may pursue...I am having this argument with a
Lender right now who did not foreclose out the tenant and wishes to "honor"
the Lease as it provides some cash flow..
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My experience is that the lenders want absolutely nothing to do with the
security deposits. They won't accept them if you can even find them.
I think the safest thing is for the money to go into the court registry and
then the tenant has to motion for the money out. The property manager can
be forced to notify the tenant what he has done with the deposit. What
happens though if the tenant motions for the money out but still are living
there, possibly and usually in default? In my experience, the banks could
care less. What happens if the foreclosure is dismissed but the tenant has
received the money back?
I have hundreds of Realtor clients who have no clue what to do with the
deposits when the owner walks away, the property is in foreclosure or near
foreclosure, FREC will not give any guidance and they are put in really bad
situations as am I as I cannot give safe advice. It is a daily problem for
me.
It is a burden on the tenant to get involved in a Circuit Court case with
all the people who may need to be notified of the motion but possibly this
can be combined with a notification process that tells the tenant how to
motion for the money. I can't see the banks fighting for the money in most
cases. They are a complete mess.
I have no answers.
Harry
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To: 'RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee'
Subject: Re: [RPPTL LandTen] (no subject)
83.49(10) gives the foreclosing lender the option of requiring the landlord
to turn over tenant deposits and advance rent to the lender rather than
depositing in the court registry. Although, I think it is a bad idea, my
opinion is leave the monies in the Court Registry to maintain the status quo
and protect the money, I can foresee the following scenarios:
Tenants who move during the pendency of the foreclosure will not get
their security deposits back from the landlord in the time frame provided by
the LL/T Act, because the lender is holding the money. Foreclosure firms
that are notorious for lack of communication will force tenants to sue the
landlord or intervene in foreclosure to get deposits back.
Conversely, if the landlord makes claim on the security deposit or the
tenant, as sometimes happens, decides to use his security deposit as rent,
is the lender going to return the money to the landlord or use it to offset
the debt owed to the lender.
What if Lender goes under or is taken over by FDIC, where is the money
then and how are security deposit claims or returns made.
I think if the lender is going to hold security deposits there must be some
obligation built in regarding the lender's obligation to maintain the money
safe, like their lawyer's trust account that has unlimited FDIC protection,
and how the money can either be claimed by the tenant or landlord.
From: landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org
[mailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Neil B. Shoter
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 11:34 PM
To: 'RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee'
Cc: 'Law Offices of Scott A. Frank'
Subject: [RPPTL LandTen] (no subject)
Our Committee has been asked to provide comments with respect to the
attached proposed Bills. Senate Bill 738 creates notice prerequisites prior
to termination of residential tenancies by a successor in interest by
foreclosure to harmonize with the Federal Protecting Tenants at Foreclosure
Act of 2009.
SB 784 modifies Section 83.49 relating to security deposits in event of
foreclosure and creating Section 83.683 dealing again with notification of
residential tenants prior to termination in foreclosure. Note the sunset of
this law n 2013.
Please provide any specific comments on these bills by no later than end of
the day on Friday so that they may be passed onto our legislative committee.
You may give comments directly to our Co-Chair Scott Frank.
Thank you.
Neil
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My $0.02.
SB 784
I agree with David about the nightmare of enforcement. Also, why would the
monies be given to the lender? If the lender is not the foreclosure buyer,
are they required to hand over the funds to the actual buyer? Yeah, that
will work. Maybe we could require that the monies, if not paid into the
court, are then distributed directly to the buyer out of the seller's
proceeds at issuance of certificate of title.
Again, it's a great idea, but horrendous in potential execution. If it is
in fact the desired policy to protect legitimate deposits, then the
legislature should just state that any proven security deposit will be
credited to tenant's account regardless of whether the foreclosure
buyer/landlord ever received it. May not be "fair" to buyers, but at least
it's clear, and people can be aware of their risks before they buy.
As to the right of setoff of unreturned deposits by the tenant, I don't
object to it wholesale - in truth it just becomes an additional "lien" or
cost that a foreclosure buyer needs to calculate into his costs when making
a bid - but I'm not so sure that it doesn't also invite a whole new class of
fraud. But maybe that can be handled by strictly defining proof.
However, "proof" is, in my opinion, the biggest issue here. The statute
requires evidence, but what is enough? A receipt from the landlord? How
will we verify its legitimacy with a landlord that is, in most cases, long
gone? A cancelled check? Better, but how do we know what the purpose of
the check was? It could have just been the tenant's payment of ordinary
rent. Again, no landlord around to verify. It just seems to me that this
is pretty much unworkable.
Finally, I do have one added suggestion with respect to the legitimate lease
issue. Beyond all other limitations, I would like the Act to provide that a
pre-existing lease expires 1 year after foreclosure sale, regardless of the
term of the lease itself.
However, what this statute has done right is creating the form of the 90-day
notice, which specifically states that rent is payable during the 90-day
period. That is long overdue. But I would add one thing - and that is in
order to have the benefit of the full lease term, the tenant must give a
copy of the existing lease, certified (under pains and penalties of perjury)
by the tenant to be a true and correct copy, within 30 days of receiving the
notice. Otherwise, how will the buyer know what the lease terms are?
SB 738
Just see my comments to 784, with the added comment that this one is not
drafted as well as 784. So if I had to choose as to which one is closer to
being a workable bill, it would be 784.
All:
Please provide any additional comments to me by end of week so I can compile
them as best I can and forward them up the chain.
Thanks.
Scott A. Frank
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From: David Weisman [mailto:David.Weisman@gmlaw.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 11:47 AM
To: RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee
Cc: 'Law Offices of Scott A. Frank'
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While I like the idea, I think that the proposal in 83.49 is going to cause
more trouble than cash. It is going to have lenders or annoyed tenants
filing criminal charges which will have to be dealt with.
Anyone who thinks that a defaulting property owner will come forward with
the security deposit and advance rent also believes that the same person has
these funds in a separate bank account, probably at the First Bank of the
Easter Bunny.
Rather than make it criminal, why not provide a right of setoff to let the
tenant do what they are going to do anyway.
David Weisman
Board Certified Real Estate Lawyer
Greenspoon Marder, P.A.
Trade Center South, Suite 700
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[mailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Neil B. Shoter
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 11:34 PM
To: 'RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee'
Cc: 'Law Offices of Scott A. Frank'
Subject: [RPPTL LandTen] (no subject)
Our Committee has been asked to provide comments with respect to the
attached proposed Bills. Senate Bill 738 creates notice prerequisites prior
to termination of residential tenancies by a successor in interest by
foreclosure to harmonize with the Federal Protecting Tenants at Foreclosure
Act of 2009.
SB 784 modifies Section 83.49 relating to security deposits in event of
foreclosure and creating Section 83.683 dealing again with notification of
residential tenants prior to termination in foreclosure. Note the sunset of
this law n 2013.
Please provide any specific comments on these bills by no later than end of
the day on Friday so that they may be passed onto our legislative committee.
You may give comments directly to our Co-Chair Scott Frank.
Thank you.
Neil
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I am 100% in agreement with David Weisman's comments on this issue.
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Subject: Re: [RPPTL LandTen] (no subject)
To: "RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee" landten@lists.flabarrpptl.org
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Date: Thursday, March 3, 2011, 11:46 AM
While I like the idea, I think that the proposal in 83.49 is going to cause more trouble than cash. It is going to have lenders or annoyed tenants filing criminal charges which will have to be dealt with.
Anyone who thinks that a defaulting property owner will come forward with the security deposit and advance rent also believes that the same person has these funds in a separate bank account, probably at the First Bank of the Easter Bunny.
Rather than make it criminal, why not provide a right of setoff to let the tenant do what they are going to do anyway.
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From: landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Neil B. Shoter
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 11:34 PM
To: 'RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee'
Cc: 'Law Offices of Scott A. Frank'
Subject: [RPPTL LandTen] (no subject)
Our Committee has been asked to provide comments with respect to the attached proposed Bills. Senate Bill 738 creates notice prerequisites prior to termination of residential tenancies by a successor in interest by foreclosure to harmonize with the Federal Protecting Tenants at Foreclosure Act of 2009.
SB 784 modifies Section 83.49 relating to security deposits in event of foreclosure and creating Section 83.683 dealing again with notification of residential tenants prior to termination in foreclosure. Note the sunset of this law n 2013.
Please provide any specific comments on these bills by no later than end of the day on Friday so that they may be passed onto our legislative committee. You may give comments directly to our Co-Chair Scott Frank.
Thank you.
Neil
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SB 738 seems to be virtually identical to the Protecting Tenants at Foreclosure Act of 2009. Why is it needed or what does it add?
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From: landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Neil B. Shoter
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 11:34 PM
To: 'RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee'
Cc: 'Law Offices of Scott A. Frank'
Subject: [RPPTL LandTen] (no subject)
Our Committee has been asked to provide comments with respect to the attached proposed Bills. Senate Bill 738 creates notice prerequisites prior to termination of residential tenancies by a successor in interest by foreclosure to harmonize with the Federal Protecting Tenants at Foreclosure Act of 2009.
SB 784 modifies Section 83.49 relating to security deposits in event of foreclosure and creating Section 83.683 dealing again with notification of residential tenants prior to termination in foreclosure. Note the sunset of this law n 2013.
Please provide any specific comments on these bills by no later than end of the day on Friday so that they may be passed onto our legislative committee. You may give comments directly to our Co-Chair Scott Frank.
Thank you.
Neil
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