Although the rest of section 713.31 is less clear, subsection (3) on the criminal aspect says “Any person who willfully files a fraudulent lien, as defined in this section….” That certainly implies that the intent is determined at the time the lien was recorded. Chuck Charles B. Hernicz, Esq. Board Certified in Construction Law by The Florida Bar Hernicz Legal Services, P.L. 96072 Breezeway Court Yulee, FL 32097 Telephone: (561) 753-7511 Chernicz@HerniczLegal.com Confidentiality Notice: This communication is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. §§ 2510-2521. It is legally privileged (including attachments) and is intended only for the use of the individual(s) or entity(ies) to which it is addressed. It may contain information that is confidential, proprietary, privileged, and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. 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Thank you for your cooperation. -----Original Message----- From: clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org <clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org> On Behalf Of RPPTL CLC-Discussion Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2023 9:51 AM To: clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org Subject: Re: [CLC-Discussion] Fraudulent Lien after Partial Satisfaction No precedent on this that I'm aware of, but I have had clients come to me a couple of times after having recorded a lien that I've determined includes improper amounts and had the clients sign and file a partial release with language about the amounts being inadvertently included (assuming that they were legitimately unaware that they had included improper amounts. But I've never fought the battle on those all the way through. I do think that the intent (or gross negligence) element of the fraudulent lien is to be measured at the time of signing and recording the lien. So if it's "fraudulent" when recorded it's likely fraudulent under the statute. But in the instances I described, I determined that the clients did not have that "intent" and so it could and should be fixed. Bruce Partington | Shareholder <mailto:bpartington@clarkpartington.com%3cmailto:bpartington@clarkpartington .com> bpartington@clarkpartington.com<mailto:bpartington@clarkpartington.com> | (850) 432-1399< <callto:(850)%20432-1399> callto:(850)%20432-1399> CLARK PARTINGTON Office: (850) 434-9200 | Fax: (850) 432-7340 125 East Intendencia Street, 4th Floor Pensacola, Florida 32502 clarkpartington.com< <https://clarkpartington.com/> https://clarkpartington.com/> [cid:logo4_09e57621-d955-46d0-aad5-1c620e3975ef.jpg] Bruce Partington | Shareholder Board Certified Specialist in Construction Law <mailto:bpartington@clarkpartington.com%3cmailto:bpartington@clarkpartington .com> bpartington@clarkpartington.com<mailto:bpartington@clarkpartington.com> | (850) 432-1399< <callto:(850)%20432-1399> callto:(850)%20432-1399> CLARK PARTINGTON Office: (850) 434-9200 | Fax: (850) 432-7340 125 East Intendencia Street, 4th Floor Pensacola, Florida 32502 clarkpartington.com< <https://clarkpartington.com/> https://clarkpartington.com/> [cid:logo4_d1062d3d-30e4-47df-99af-a59488723ed9.jpg] ________________________________ From: <mailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org> clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org < <mailto:clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org> clc-discussion-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org> on behalf of RPPTL CLC-Discussion < <mailto:clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org> clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org> Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2023 6:53:47 AM To: <mailto:clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org> clc-discussion@lists.flabarrpptl.org Subject: [CLC-Discussion] Fraudulent Lien after Partial Satisfaction Does anyone know of a case where a lienor recorded what was a fraudulent lien and later recorded a partial satisfaction but the original lien was still determined to be fraudulent so the entire lien was invalid? Yes, hoping someone has researched this issue recently and can save the research time. Thanks! Chuck Charles B. Hernicz, Esq. Board Certified in Construction Law by The Florida Bar Hernicz Legal Services, P.L. 96072 Breezeway Court Yulee, FL 32097 Telephone: (561) 753-7511 <mailto:Chernicz@HerniczLegal.com%3chttps://link.edgepilot.com/s/64874136/fs __QEyhnESJMnFzstJcYg?u=http://Chernicz@herniczlegal.com/> Chernicz@HerniczLegal.com<https://link.edgepilot.com/s/64874136/fs__QEyhnESJ MnFzstJcYg?u=http://Chernicz@herniczlegal.com/> Confidentiality Notice: This communication is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. §§ 2510-2521. It is legally privileged (including attachments) and is intended only for the use of the individual(s) or entity(ies) to which it is addressed. It may contain information that is confidential, proprietary, privileged, and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. 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