Harry, I’m a bit confused by the case summary and what the ultimate holding was.
For what it’s worth, here’s what the Florida Department of Revenue has to say on their website as to sales tax exemptions for leases. If there’s case law providing an additional exemption as your client apparently wants to believe, than it would appear that for some reason the DOR has not acquiesced to it in their public policy statements.
http://dor.myflorida.com/dor/forms/2009/gt800034.pdf
What is Exempt?
Certain leases and rentals are exempt from sales tax. The owner or owner’s representative must keep documentation to support the exempt transaction. These transactions are exempt:
• Rental charges or room rates paid by a person who has a signed, bona fide written lease for a continuous residence longer than six months. If there is no written lease, and a person has continuously resided at any one location for a period longer than six months and has paid the tax on the rental charges or room rates due at that location for the first six months, additional charges for continuous residence at that location are tax-exempt.
• Rental charges or room rates paid by a full-time student enrolled in an institution offering postsecondary education. A written statement from an official of the student’s institution, documenting that the student attends the institution full time, is proof of the student’s full-time enrollment.
• Rental charges or room rates paid by military personnel who are on active duty and are present in the community under official orders. The military personnel must provide a copy of:
• The official orders supporting the active duty status of the military personnel and making it necessary to occupy the accommodation.
• Rental of accommodations in a migrant labor camp.
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From: landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Harry Heist
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 3:02 PM
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Subject: [RPPTL LandTen] Real Doozy Transient/Nontransient issue
Apartment community rents primarily with 1 year leases decides to do some short term rentals 6 months or less.
Do they have to pay sales/tourist tax?
We had a question come in where the party, apartment community, that has primarily long term rentals and always will, feels that this case cited below means they do not.
If this is true, then sale tax in a situation like this would need to depend upon the "intention of the parties" . Now there is some case law that states that for the purposes of evictions, a person can’t rent out motel rooms to transients and then just kick them out using 509 but this is a little different.
Here we are talking sales/tourist tax, not eviction.
Here are 2 examples which would be true if the interpretation below is correct.
Example #1: On vacation for 5 months, have house in NJ, rent apartment I an apartment community for 5 month vacation -- No sales tax
Example #2: Sold house and moved from NJ, looking to buy a house, rent an apartment in Florida for 5 months - Sales/Tourist tax due
H
See below:
This court reversed and remanded, Hale v. Department of Revenue, 808 So.2d 237 (Fla. 1st DCA 2002), holding that section 212.03(7)(a) provided a separate exemption from tax where the apartments constitute the “permanent or principal place of residence” of the tenants and that it was not necessary to have leases in excess of six months as required by section 212.03(4) to be entitled to the exemption provided by section 212.03(7)(a)."
The court relied in the following:212.03 (7) (a)Full-time students enrolled in an institution offering postsecondary education and military personnel currently on active duty who reside in the facilities described in subsection (1) shall be exempt from the tax imposed by this section. The department shall be empowered to determine what shall be deemed acceptable proof of full-time enrollment. The exemption contained in this subsection shall apply irrespective of any other provisions of this section. The tax levied by this section shall not apply to or be imposed upon or collected on the basis of rentals to any person who resides in any building or group of buildings intended primarily for lease or rent to persons as their permanent or principal place of residence.
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Can anyone recommend a good attorney in Naples?
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I recommend Burt Eisenberg.
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Can anyone recommend a good attorney in Naples?
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Jeffrey R. Mazor, Esq.
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Can anyone recommend a good attorney in Naples?
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I recommend Burt Eisenberg.
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Recently an attorney in Brandon published an article regarding the Death of a Tenant in a trade magazine stating the following:
" Several apartment communities utilize a form that designates a third party to take custody of the tenant’s property in the event of the tenant’s death. Assuming that such document is properly written, we believe it is proper to let the designated person take possession of the deceased tenant's property and remove it from the apartment. Of course, the designated person’s custody of the deceased tenant’s property would be subject to probate and other laws; nonetheless, the duty to comply with such laws is effectively moved from the landlord to the deceased tenant’s designated person through the use of such a form"
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What if it were a properly executed and acknowledged durable Power of Attorney under the new law? I think the landlord is safe in that situation, but otherwise, you are probably right
Manny
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From: landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Harry Heist
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Recently an attorney in Brandon published an article regarding the Death of a Tenant in a trade magazine stating the following:
" Several apartment communities utilize a form that designates a third party to take custody of the tenant’s property in the event of the tenant’s death. Assuming that such document is properly written, we believe it is proper to let the designated person take possession of the deceased tenant's property and remove it from the apartment. Of course, the designated person’s custody of the deceased tenant’s property would be subject to probate and other laws; nonetheless, the duty to comply with such laws is effectively moved from the landlord to the deceased tenant’s designated person through the use of such a form"
We feel this is incorrect and would welcome any thoughts.
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I was under the impression that the Durable Power of Attorney ceased to have any relevance upon the tenant's death.
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Harry
What if it were a properly executed and acknowledged durable Power of Attorney under the new law? I think the landlord is safe in that situation, but otherwise, you are probably right
Manny
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From: landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Harry Heist
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Recently an attorney in Brandon published an article regarding the Death of a Tenant in a trade magazine stating the following:
" Several apartment communities utilize a form that designates a third party to take custody of the tenant’s property in the event of the tenant’s death. Assuming that such document is properly written, we believe it is proper to let the designated person take possession of the deceased tenant's property and remove it from the apartment. Of course, the designated person’s custody of the deceased tenant’s property would be subject to probate and other laws; nonetheless, the duty to comply with such laws is effectively moved from the landlord to the deceased tenant’s designated person through the use of such a form"
We feel this is incorrect and would welcome any thoughts.
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Under Chapter 709, F.S., the power of attorney becomes invalid upon the death of the principal.
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I was under the impression that the Durable Power of Attorney ceased to have any relevance upon the tenant's death.
Harry
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Harry
What if it were a properly executed and acknowledged durable Power of Attorney under the new law? I think the landlord is safe in that situation, but otherwise, you are probably right
Manny
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To: 'RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee'
Subject: [RPPTL LandTen] Tenant death issue
Recently an attorney in Brandon published an article regarding the Death of a Tenant in a trade magazine stating the following:
" Several apartment communities utilize a form that designates a third party to take custody of the tenant’s property in the event of the tenant’s death. Assuming that such document is properly written, we believe it is proper to let the designated person take possession of the deceased tenant's property and remove it from the apartment. Of course, the designated person’s custody of the deceased tenant’s property would be subject to probate and other laws; nonetheless, the duty to comply with such laws is effectively moved from the landlord to the deceased tenant’s designated person through the use of such a form"
We feel this is incorrect and would welcome any thoughts.
Harry Heist
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HEIST, WEISSE & WOLK P.A.
PH: 1 800 253 8428
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Hi All,
Occasionally I have an apartment community client who is looking to submeter utilities or use the RUBS (Ratio Utility Billing) systems for the utilities. This potentially involves the PSC or sometimes local rules regarding submetering/RUBs.
If anyone has experience with this, please respond so we can refer. This is out of our league.
Thanks
Harry Heist
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