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Richard A. Burt
Thu, Mar 10, 2011 4:25 PM
Everyone,
I have a client who has owned an apartment building which has housed college students for over 20 years. Up to this year, the state conducted an annual inspection of the building and its units; each year the building and units passed inspection. Recently, the inspection function was transferred to the local fire department. The local fire inspector has cited the client for inadequate egress, stating that a door leading into a bedroom of a number of units must remain unlocked at all times. This would render these apartments non-rentable costing the client hundreds of thousands of dollars in income and drastically reducing the building's value. Despite pleas by the client and his architects and engineers, who have suggested a number of options to achieve the objective of the egress requirement, the fire department inspector will not budge.
Can anyone identify an expert in the area of fire codes in effect in 1969-1970 and currently?
Thanks.
Richard A. Burt, Esq.
Richard A. Burt, Esq.
BURT & BURT
220 So. Ridgewood Avenue
Suite 200
Daytona Beach, Florida 32114
(386) 252-2090 (office)
(866) 240-7043 (facsimile)
dick@burt-burt.commailto:dick@burt-burt.com
www.burt-burt.comhttp://www.burt-burt.com/
Everyone,
I have a client who has owned an apartment building which has housed college students for over 20 years. Up to this year, the state conducted an annual inspection of the building and its units; each year the building and units passed inspection. Recently, the inspection function was transferred to the local fire department. The local fire inspector has cited the client for inadequate egress, stating that a door leading into a bedroom of a number of units must remain unlocked at all times. This would render these apartments non-rentable costing the client hundreds of thousands of dollars in income and drastically reducing the building's value. Despite pleas by the client and his architects and engineers, who have suggested a number of options to achieve the objective of the egress requirement, the fire department inspector will not budge.
Can anyone identify an expert in the area of fire codes in effect in 1969-1970 and currently?
Thanks.
Richard A. Burt, Esq.
Richard A. Burt, Esq.
BURT & BURT
220 So. Ridgewood Avenue
Suite 200
Daytona Beach, Florida 32114
(386) 252-2090 (office)
(866) 240-7043 (facsimile)
dick@burt-burt.com<mailto:dick@burt-burt.com>
www.burt-burt.com<http://www.burt-burt.com/>
FD
fred.dudley (at) hklaw.com
Thu, Mar 10, 2011 4:59 PM
Hughes Associates in Orlando (Mr. Bahadori, who serves on the Fla Building Comm). Unfortunately, as a life safety issue, your client may not have any vested rights and may have to come up to current code.
Frederick Dudley | Holland & Knight
Board Certified Construction Lawyer
315 South Calhoun Street, Suite 600 | Tallahassee FL 32301
Phone 850.425.5668 | Fax 850.224.8832 | Cell 850.294.3471
Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld
From: Richard A. Burt [mailto:dick@burt-burt.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 11:25 AM
To: 'RPPTL constructionlaw' constructionlaw@lists.flabarrpptl.org
Subject: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] Expert: Fire codes
Everyone,
I have a client who has owned an apartment building which has housed college students for over 20 years. Up to this year, the state conducted an annual inspection of the building and its units; each year the building and units passed inspection. Recently, the inspection function was transferred to the local fire department. The local fire inspector has cited the client for inadequate egress, stating that a door leading into a bedroom of a number of units must remain unlocked at all times. This would render these apartments non-rentable costing the client hundreds of thousands of dollars in income and drastically reducing the building’s value. Despite pleas by the client and his architects and engineers, who have suggested a number of options to achieve the objective of the egress requirement, the fire department inspector will not budge.
Can anyone identify an expert in the area of fire codes in effect in 1969-1970 and currently?
Thanks.
Richard A. Burt, Esq.
Richard A. Burt, Esq.
BURT & BURT
220 So. Ridgewood Avenue
Suite 200
Daytona Beach, Florida 32114
(386) 252-2090 (office)
(866) 240-7043 (facsimile)
dick@burt-burt.commailto:dick@burt-burt.com
www.burt-burt.comhttp://www.burt-burt.com/
To ensure compliance with Treasury Regulations (31 CFR Part 10, Sec. 10.35), we inform you that any tax advice contained in this correspondence was not intended or written by us to be used, and cannot be used by you or anyone else, for the purpose of avoiding penalties imposed by the Internal Revenue Code.
NOTE: This e-mail is from a law firm, Holland & Knight LLP (�H&K�), and is intended solely for the use of the individual(s) to whom it is addressed. If you believe you received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately, delete the e-mail from your computer and do not copy or disclose it to anyone else. If you are not an existing client of H&K, do not construe anything in this e-mail to make you a client unless it contains a specific statement to that effect and do not disclose anything to H&K in reply that you expect it to hold in confidence. If you properly received this e-mail as a client, co-counsel or retained expert of H&K, you should maintain its contents in confidence in order to preserve the attorney-client or work product privilege that may be available to protect confidentiality.
Hughes Associates in Orlando (Mr. Bahadori, who serves on the Fla Building Comm). Unfortunately, as a life safety issue, your client may not have any vested rights and may have to come up to current code.
Frederick Dudley | Holland & Knight
Board Certified Construction Lawyer
315 South Calhoun Street, Suite 600 | Tallahassee FL 32301
Phone 850.425.5668 | Fax 850.224.8832 | Cell 850.294.3471
fred.dudley@hklaw.com <mailto:fred.dudley@hklaw.com> | www.hklaw.com <http://www.hklaw.com/>
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From: Richard A. Burt [mailto:dick@burt-burt.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 11:25 AM
To: 'RPPTL constructionlaw' <constructionlaw@lists.flabarrpptl.org>
Subject: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] Expert: Fire codes
Everyone,
I have a client who has owned an apartment building which has housed college students for over 20 years. Up to this year, the state conducted an annual inspection of the building and its units; each year the building and units passed inspection. Recently, the inspection function was transferred to the local fire department. The local fire inspector has cited the client for inadequate egress, stating that a door leading into a bedroom of a number of units must remain unlocked at all times. This would render these apartments non-rentable costing the client hundreds of thousands of dollars in income and drastically reducing the building’s value. Despite pleas by the client and his architects and engineers, who have suggested a number of options to achieve the objective of the egress requirement, the fire department inspector will not budge.
Can anyone identify an expert in the area of fire codes in effect in 1969-1970 and currently?
Thanks.
Richard A. Burt, Esq.
Richard A. Burt, Esq.
BURT & BURT
220 So. Ridgewood Avenue
Suite 200
Daytona Beach, Florida 32114
(386) 252-2090 (office)
(866) 240-7043 (facsimile)
dick@burt-burt.com<mailto:dick@burt-burt.com>
www.burt-burt.com<http://www.burt-burt.com/>
________________________________
To ensure compliance with Treasury Regulations (31 CFR Part 10, Sec. 10.35), we inform you that any tax advice contained in this correspondence was not intended or written by us to be used, and cannot be used by you or anyone else, for the purpose of avoiding penalties imposed by the Internal Revenue Code.
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FineR (at) gtlaw.com
Thu, Mar 10, 2011 5:28 PM
My practice focuses on, to a great extent, building and life safety codes. Hamid Bahadori (as recommended by Fred) makes me look like a genius to my clients on a regular basis. I endorse Mr. Dudley's recommendation.
Robert S. Fine, Esq., AIA
Shareholder
Environmental, Land Development, Accessibility,
Building and Life Safety Codes Law
Board Certified in Construction Law
Greenberg Traurig, P.A. | 333 Avenue of the Americas| Miami, FL 33131
Tel 305.579.0826 | Fax 305.961.5826
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From: constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of fred.dudley@hklaw.com
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 12:00 PM
To: constructionlaw@lists.flabarrpptl.org
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] Expert: Fire codes
Hughes Associates in Orlando (Mr. Bahadori, who serves on the Fla Building Comm). Unfortunately, as a life safety issue, your client may not have any vested rights and may have to come up to current code.
Frederick Dudley | Holland & Knight
Board Certified Construction Lawyer
315 South Calhoun Street, Suite 600 | Tallahassee FL 32301
Phone 850.425.5668 | Fax 850.224.8832 | Cell 850.294.3471
Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld
From: Richard A. Burt [mailto:dick@burt-burt.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 11:25 AM
To: 'RPPTL constructionlaw' constructionlaw@lists.flabarrpptl.org
Subject: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] Expert: Fire codes
Everyone,
I have a client who has owned an apartment building which has housed college students for over 20 years. Up to this year, the state conducted an annual inspection of the building and its units; each year the building and units passed inspection. Recently, the inspection function was transferred to the local fire department. The local fire inspector has cited the client for inadequate egress, stating that a door leading into a bedroom of a number of units must remain unlocked at all times. This would render these apartments non-rentable costing the client hundreds of thousands of dollars in income and drastically reducing the building’s value. Despite pleas by the client and his architects and engineers, who have suggested a number of options to achieve the objective of the egress requirement, the fire department inspector will not budge.
Can anyone identify an expert in the area of fire codes in effect in 1969-1970 and currently?
Thanks.
Richard A. Burt, Esq.
Richard A. Burt, Esq.
BURT & BURT
220 So. Ridgewood Avenue
Suite 200
Daytona Beach, Florida 32114
(386) 252-2090 (office)
(866) 240-7043 (facsimile)
dick@burt-burt.com
www.burt-burt.com http://www.burt-burt.com/
To ensure compliance with Treasury Regulations (31 CFR Part 10, Sec. 10.35), we inform you that any tax advice contained in this correspondence was not intended or written by us to be used, and cannot be used by you or anyone else, for the purpose of avoiding penalties imposed by the Internal Revenue Code.
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My practice focuses on, to a great extent, building and life safety codes. Hamid Bahadori (as recommended by Fred) makes me look like a genius to my clients on a regular basis. I endorse Mr. Dudley's recommendation.
Robert S. Fine, Esq., AIA
Shareholder
Environmental, Land Development, Accessibility,
Building and Life Safety Codes Law
Board Certified in Construction Law
Greenberg Traurig, P.A. | 333 Avenue of the Americas| Miami, FL 33131
Tel 305.579.0826 | Fax 305.961.5826
finer@gtlaw.com <mailto:finer@gtlaw.com> | www.gtlaw.com <http://www.gtlaw.com/>
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From: constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of fred.dudley@hklaw.com
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 12:00 PM
To: constructionlaw@lists.flabarrpptl.org
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] Expert: Fire codes
Hughes Associates in Orlando (Mr. Bahadori, who serves on the Fla Building Comm). Unfortunately, as a life safety issue, your client may not have any vested rights and may have to come up to current code.
Frederick Dudley | Holland & Knight
Board Certified Construction Lawyer
315 South Calhoun Street, Suite 600 | Tallahassee FL 32301
Phone 850.425.5668 | Fax 850.224.8832 | Cell 850.294.3471
fred.dudley@hklaw.com <mailto:fred.dudley@hklaw.com> | www.hklaw.com <http://www.hklaw.com/>
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From: Richard A. Burt [mailto:dick@burt-burt.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 11:25 AM
To: 'RPPTL constructionlaw' <constructionlaw@lists.flabarrpptl.org>
Subject: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] Expert: Fire codes
Everyone,
I have a client who has owned an apartment building which has housed college students for over 20 years. Up to this year, the state conducted an annual inspection of the building and its units; each year the building and units passed inspection. Recently, the inspection function was transferred to the local fire department. The local fire inspector has cited the client for inadequate egress, stating that a door leading into a bedroom of a number of units must remain unlocked at all times. This would render these apartments non-rentable costing the client hundreds of thousands of dollars in income and drastically reducing the building’s value. Despite pleas by the client and his architects and engineers, who have suggested a number of options to achieve the objective of the egress requirement, the fire department inspector will not budge.
Can anyone identify an expert in the area of fire codes in effect in 1969-1970 and currently?
Thanks.
Richard A. Burt, Esq.
Richard A. Burt, Esq.
BURT & BURT
220 So. Ridgewood Avenue
Suite 200
Daytona Beach, Florida 32114
(386) 252-2090 (office)
(866) 240-7043 (facsimile)
dick@burt-burt.com
www.burt-burt.com <http://www.burt-burt.com/>
________________________________
To ensure compliance with Treasury Regulations (31 CFR Part 10, Sec. 10.35), we inform you that any tax advice contained in this correspondence was not intended or written by us to be used, and cannot be used by you or anyone else, for the purpose of avoiding penalties imposed by the Internal Revenue Code.
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Richard A. Burt
Thu, Mar 10, 2011 6:59 PM
Thanks, Fred. I agree.
Dick
Richard A. Burt, Esq.
BURT & BURT
220 So. Ridgewood Avenue
Suite 200
Daytona Beach, Florida 32114
(386) 252-2090 (office)
(866) 240-7043 (facsimile)
dick@burt-burt.commailto:dick@burt-burt.com
www.burt-burt.comhttp://www.burt-burt.com/
From: constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of fred.dudley@hklaw.com
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 12:00 PM
To: constructionlaw@lists.flabarrpptl.org
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] Expert: Fire codes
Hughes Associates in Orlando (Mr. Bahadori, who serves on the Fla Building Comm). Unfortunately, as a life safety issue, your client may not have any vested rights and may have to come up to current code.
Frederick Dudley | Holland & Knight
Board Certified Construction Lawyer
315 South Calhoun Street, Suite 600 | Tallahassee FL 32301
Phone 850.425.5668 | Fax 850.224.8832 | Cell 850.294.3471
Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld
From: Richard A. Burt [mailto:dick@burt-burt.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 11:25 AM
To: 'RPPTL constructionlaw' constructionlaw@lists.flabarrpptl.org
Subject: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] Expert: Fire codes
Everyone,
I have a client who has owned an apartment building which has housed college students for over 20 years. Up to this year, the state conducted an annual inspection of the building and its units; each year the building and units passed inspection. Recently, the inspection function was transferred to the local fire department. The local fire inspector has cited the client for inadequate egress, stating that a door leading into a bedroom of a number of units must remain unlocked at all times. This would render these apartments non-rentable costing the client hundreds of thousands of dollars in income and drastically reducing the building’s value. Despite pleas by the client and his architects and engineers, who have suggested a number of options to achieve the objective of the egress requirement, the fire department inspector will not budge.
Can anyone identify an expert in the area of fire codes in effect in 1969-1970 and currently?
Thanks.
Richard A. Burt, Esq.
Richard A. Burt, Esq.
BURT & BURT
220 So. Ridgewood Avenue
Suite 200
Daytona Beach, Florida 32114
(386) 252-2090 (office)
(866) 240-7043 (facsimile)
dick@burt-burt.commailto:dick@burt-burt.com
www.burt-burt.comhttp://www.burt-burt.com/
To ensure compliance with Treasury Regulations (31 CFR Part 10, Sec. 10.35), we inform you that any tax advice contained in this correspondence was not intended or written by us to be used, and cannot be used by you or anyone else, for the purpose of avoiding penalties imposed by the Internal Revenue Code.
NOTE: This e-mail is from a law firm, Holland & Knight LLP (�H&K�), and is intended solely for the use of the individual(s) to whom it is addressed. If you believe you received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately, delete the e-mail from your computer and do not copy or disclose it to anyone else. If you are not an existing client of H&K, do not construe anything in this e-mail to make you a client unless it contains a specific statement to that effect and do not disclose anything to H&K in reply that you expect it to hold in confidence. If you properly received this e-mail as a client, co-counsel or retained expert of H&K, you should maintain its contents in confidence in order to preserve the attorney-client or work product privilege that may be available to protect confidentiality.
Thanks, Fred. I agree.
Dick
Richard A. Burt, Esq.
BURT & BURT
220 So. Ridgewood Avenue
Suite 200
Daytona Beach, Florida 32114
(386) 252-2090 (office)
(866) 240-7043 (facsimile)
dick@burt-burt.com<mailto:dick@burt-burt.com>
www.burt-burt.com<http://www.burt-burt.com/>
From: constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of fred.dudley@hklaw.com
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 12:00 PM
To: constructionlaw@lists.flabarrpptl.org
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] Expert: Fire codes
Hughes Associates in Orlando (Mr. Bahadori, who serves on the Fla Building Comm). Unfortunately, as a life safety issue, your client may not have any vested rights and may have to come up to current code.
Frederick Dudley | Holland & Knight
Board Certified Construction Lawyer
315 South Calhoun Street, Suite 600 | Tallahassee FL 32301
Phone 850.425.5668 | Fax 850.224.8832 | Cell 850.294.3471
fred.dudley@hklaw.com <mailto:fred.dudley@hklaw.com> | www.hklaw.com <http://www.hklaw.com/>
--------------------------
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From: Richard A. Burt [mailto:dick@burt-burt.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 11:25 AM
To: 'RPPTL constructionlaw' <constructionlaw@lists.flabarrpptl.org>
Subject: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] Expert: Fire codes
Everyone,
I have a client who has owned an apartment building which has housed college students for over 20 years. Up to this year, the state conducted an annual inspection of the building and its units; each year the building and units passed inspection. Recently, the inspection function was transferred to the local fire department. The local fire inspector has cited the client for inadequate egress, stating that a door leading into a bedroom of a number of units must remain unlocked at all times. This would render these apartments non-rentable costing the client hundreds of thousands of dollars in income and drastically reducing the building’s value. Despite pleas by the client and his architects and engineers, who have suggested a number of options to achieve the objective of the egress requirement, the fire department inspector will not budge.
Can anyone identify an expert in the area of fire codes in effect in 1969-1970 and currently?
Thanks.
Richard A. Burt, Esq.
Richard A. Burt, Esq.
BURT & BURT
220 So. Ridgewood Avenue
Suite 200
Daytona Beach, Florida 32114
(386) 252-2090 (office)
(866) 240-7043 (facsimile)
dick@burt-burt.com<mailto:dick@burt-burt.com>
www.burt-burt.com<http://www.burt-burt.com/>
________________________________
To ensure compliance with Treasury Regulations (31 CFR Part 10, Sec. 10.35), we inform you that any tax advice contained in this correspondence was not intended or written by us to be used, and cannot be used by you or anyone else, for the purpose of avoiding penalties imposed by the Internal Revenue Code.
________________________________
NOTE: This e-mail is from a law firm, Holland & Knight LLP (�H&K�), and is intended solely for the use of the individual(s) to whom it is addressed. If you believe you received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately, delete the e-mail from your computer and do not copy or disclose it to anyone else. If you are not an existing client of H&K, do not construe anything in this e-mail to make you a client unless it contains a specific statement to that effect and do not disclose anything to H&K in reply that you expect it to hold in confidence. If you properly received this e-mail as a client, co-counsel or retained expert of H&K, you should maintain its contents in confidence in order to preserve the attorney-client or work product privilege that may be available to protect confidentiality.
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Richard A. Burt
Thu, Mar 10, 2011 7:09 PM
Thanks, Robert. I may need to call on you.
Dick
Richard A. Burt, Esq.
BURT & BURT
220 So. Ridgewood Avenue
Suite 200
Daytona Beach, Florida 32114
(386) 252-2090 (office)
(866) 240-7043 (facsimile)
dick@burt-burt.commailto:dick@burt-burt.com
www.burt-burt.comhttp://www.burt-burt.com/
From: constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of FineR@gtlaw.com
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 12:28 PM
To: constructionlaw@lists.flabarrpptl.org
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] Expert: Fire codes
My practice focuses on, to a great extent, building and life safety codes. Hamid Bahadori (as recommended by Fred) makes me look like a genius to my clients on a regular basis. I endorse Mr. Dudley's recommendation.
Robert S. Fine, Esq., AIA
Shareholder
Environmental, Land Development, Accessibility,
Building and Life Safety Codes Law
Board Certified in Construction Law
Greenberg Traurig, P.A. | 333 Avenue of the Americas| Miami, FL 33131
Tel 305.579.0826 | Fax 305.961.5826
finer@gtlaw.commailto:finer@gtlaw.com | www.gtlaw.comhttp://www.gtlaw.com/
[Image removed by sender. Greenberg Traurig]
From: constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of fred.dudley@hklaw.com
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 12:00 PM
To: constructionlaw@lists.flabarrpptl.org
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] Expert: Fire codes
Hughes Associates in Orlando (Mr. Bahadori, who serves on the Fla Building Comm). Unfortunately, as a life safety issue, your client may not have any vested rights and may have to come up to current code.
Frederick Dudley | Holland & Knight
Board Certified Construction Lawyer
315 South Calhoun Street, Suite 600 | Tallahassee FL 32301
Phone 850.425.5668 | Fax 850.224.8832 | Cell 850.294.3471
Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld
From: Richard A. Burt [mailto:dick@burt-burt.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 11:25 AM
To: 'RPPTL constructionlaw' constructionlaw@lists.flabarrpptl.org
Subject: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] Expert: Fire codes
Everyone,
I have a client who has owned an apartment building which has housed college students for over 20 years. Up to this year, the state conducted an annual inspection of the building and its units; each year the building and units passed inspection. Recently, the inspection function was transferred to the local fire department. The local fire inspector has cited the client for inadequate egress, stating that a door leading into a bedroom of a number of units must remain unlocked at all times. This would render these apartments non-rentable costing the client hundreds of thousands of dollars in income and drastically reducing the building’s value. Despite pleas by the client and his architects and engineers, who have suggested a number of options to achieve the objective of the egress requirement, the fire department inspector will not budge.
Can anyone identify an expert in the area of fire codes in effect in 1969-1970 and currently?
Thanks.
Richard A. Burt, Esq.
Richard A. Burt, Esq.
BURT & BURT
220 So. Ridgewood Avenue
Suite 200
Daytona Beach, Florida 32114
(386) 252-2090 (office)
(866) 240-7043 (facsimile)
dick@burt-burt.commailto:dick@burt-burt.com
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Thanks, Robert. I may need to call on you.
Dick
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My practice focuses on, to a great extent, building and life safety codes. Hamid Bahadori (as recommended by Fred) makes me look like a genius to my clients on a regular basis. I endorse Mr. Dudley's recommendation.
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Hughes Associates in Orlando (Mr. Bahadori, who serves on the Fla Building Comm). Unfortunately, as a life safety issue, your client may not have any vested rights and may have to come up to current code.
Frederick Dudley | Holland & Knight
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Everyone,
I have a client who has owned an apartment building which has housed college students for over 20 years. Up to this year, the state conducted an annual inspection of the building and its units; each year the building and units passed inspection. Recently, the inspection function was transferred to the local fire department. The local fire inspector has cited the client for inadequate egress, stating that a door leading into a bedroom of a number of units must remain unlocked at all times. This would render these apartments non-rentable costing the client hundreds of thousands of dollars in income and drastically reducing the building’s value. Despite pleas by the client and his architects and engineers, who have suggested a number of options to achieve the objective of the egress requirement, the fire department inspector will not budge.
Can anyone identify an expert in the area of fire codes in effect in 1969-1970 and currently?
Thanks.
Richard A. Burt, Esq.
Richard A. Burt, Esq.
BURT & BURT
220 So. Ridgewood Avenue
Suite 200
Daytona Beach, Florida 32114
(386) 252-2090 (office)
(866) 240-7043 (facsimile)
dick@burt-burt.com<mailto:dick@burt-burt.com>
www.burt-burt.com<http://www.burt-burt.com/>
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Kevin Schoeppel
Thu, Mar 10, 2011 8:22 PM
We use Don Ford who is the building inspector for Neptune Beach. He is also on the First Coast Chapter of the International Code Council and Building Officials Association of Florida. He has testified for us on numerous code issues for apt complexes. He is honest and not that expensive. His phone number is 904.235.3649.
Kevin A. Schoeppel, Esquire
DURANT & SCHOEPPEL, P.A.
6550 St. Augustine Rd., Ste. 105
Jacksonville, FL 32217
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On Mar 10, 2011, at 11:25 AM, Richard A. Burt wrote:
Everyone,
I have a client who has owned an apartment building which has housed college students for over 20 years. Up to this year, the state conducted an annual inspection of the building and its units; each year the building and units passed inspection. Recently, the inspection function was transferred to the local fire department. The local fire inspector has cited the client for inadequate egress, stating that a door leading into a bedroom of a number of units must remain unlocked at all times. This would render these apartments non-rentable costing the client hundreds of thousands of dollars in income and drastically reducing the building’s value. Despite pleas by the client and his architects and engineers, who have suggested a number of options to achieve the objective of the egress requirement, the fire department inspector will not budge.
Can anyone identify an expert in the area of fire codes in effect in 1969-1970 and currently?
Thanks.
Richard A. Burt, Esq.
Richard A. Burt, Esq.
BURT & BURT
220 So. Ridgewood Avenue
Suite 200
Daytona Beach, Florida 32114
(386) 252-2090 (office)
(866) 240-7043 (facsimile)
dick@burt-burt.com
www.burt-burt.com
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We use Don Ford who is the building inspector for Neptune Beach. He is also on the First Coast Chapter of the International Code Council and Building Officials Association of Florida. He has testified for us on numerous code issues for apt complexes. He is honest and not that expensive. His phone number is 904.235.3649.
Kevin A. Schoeppel, Esquire
DURANT & SCHOEPPEL, P.A.
6550 St. Augustine Rd., Ste. 105
Jacksonville, FL 32217
Phone: (904) 652-2600
Fax: (904) 652-2610
Email: kschoeppel@ds-law.net
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On Mar 10, 2011, at 11:25 AM, Richard A. Burt wrote:
> Everyone,
>
> I have a client who has owned an apartment building which has housed college students for over 20 years. Up to this year, the state conducted an annual inspection of the building and its units; each year the building and units passed inspection. Recently, the inspection function was transferred to the local fire department. The local fire inspector has cited the client for inadequate egress, stating that a door leading into a bedroom of a number of units must remain unlocked at all times. This would render these apartments non-rentable costing the client hundreds of thousands of dollars in income and drastically reducing the building’s value. Despite pleas by the client and his architects and engineers, who have suggested a number of options to achieve the objective of the egress requirement, the fire department inspector will not budge.
>
> Can anyone identify an expert in the area of fire codes in effect in 1969-1970 and currently?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Richard A. Burt, Esq.
>
> Richard A. Burt, Esq.
> BURT & BURT
> 220 So. Ridgewood Avenue
> Suite 200
> Daytona Beach, Florida 32114
> (386) 252-2090 (office)
> (866) 240-7043 (facsimile)
> dick@burt-burt.com
> www.burt-burt.com
>
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fred.dudley (at) hklaw.com
Thu, Mar 10, 2011 8:46 PM
I only know Mr. Ford by reputation, but most building code officials are NOT experts on the fire codes.
Frederick Dudley | Holland & Knight
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315 South Calhoun Street, Suite 600 | Tallahassee FL 32301
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From: Kevin Schoeppel [mailto:kschoeppel@ds-law.net]
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To: RPPTL constructionlaw constructionlaw@lists.flabarrpptl.org
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] Expert: Fire codes
We use Don Ford who is the building inspector for Neptune Beach. He is also on the First Coast Chapter of the International Code Council and Building Officials Association of Florida. He has testified for us on numerous code issues for apt complexes. He is honest and not that expensive. His phone number is 904.235.3649.
Kevin A. Schoeppel, Esquire
DURANT & SCHOEPPEL, P.A.
6550 St. Augustine Rd., Ste. 105
Jacksonville, FL 32217
Phone: (904) 652-2600
Fax: (904) 652-2610
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On Mar 10, 2011, at 11:25 AM, Richard A. Burt wrote:
Everyone,
I have a client who has owned an apartment building which has housed college students for over 20 years. Up to this year, the state conducted an annual inspection of the building and its units; each year the building and units passed inspection. Recently, the inspection function was transferred to the local fire department. The local fire inspector has cited the client for inadequate egress, stating that a door leading into a bedroom of a number of units must remain unlocked at all times. This would render these apartments non-rentable costing the client hundreds of thousands of dollars in income and drastically reducing the building’s value. Despite pleas by the client and his architects and engineers, who have suggested a number of options to achieve the objective of the egress requirement, the fire department inspector will not budge.
Can anyone identify an expert in the area of fire codes in effect in 1969-1970 and currently?
Thanks.
Richard A. Burt, Esq.
Richard A. Burt, Esq.
BURT & BURT
220 So. Ridgewood Avenue
Suite 200
Daytona Beach, Florida 32114
(386) 252-2090 (office)
(866) 240-7043 (facsimile)
dick@burt-burt.commailto:dick@burt-burt.com
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I only know Mr. Ford by reputation, but most building code officials are NOT experts on the fire codes.
Frederick Dudley | Holland & Knight
Board Certified Construction Lawyer
315 South Calhoun Street, Suite 600 | Tallahassee FL 32301
Phone 850.425.5668 | Fax 850.224.8832 | Cell 850.294.3471
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Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 03:22 PM
To: RPPTL constructionlaw <constructionlaw@lists.flabarrpptl.org>
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] Expert: Fire codes
We use Don Ford who is the building inspector for Neptune Beach. He is also on the First Coast Chapter of the International Code Council and Building Officials Association of Florida. He has testified for us on numerous code issues for apt complexes. He is honest and not that expensive. His phone number is 904.235.3649.
Kevin A. Schoeppel, Esquire
DURANT & SCHOEPPEL, P.A.
6550 St. Augustine Rd., Ste. 105
Jacksonville, FL 32217
Phone: (904) 652-2600
Fax: (904) 652-2610
Email: kschoeppel@ds-law.net<mailto:kschoeppel@ds-law.net>
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On Mar 10, 2011, at 11:25 AM, Richard A. Burt wrote:
Everyone,
I have a client who has owned an apartment building which has housed college students for over 20 years. Up to this year, the state conducted an annual inspection of the building and its units; each year the building and units passed inspection. Recently, the inspection function was transferred to the local fire department. The local fire inspector has cited the client for inadequate egress, stating that a door leading into a bedroom of a number of units must remain unlocked at all times. This would render these apartments non-rentable costing the client hundreds of thousands of dollars in income and drastically reducing the building’s value. Despite pleas by the client and his architects and engineers, who have suggested a number of options to achieve the objective of the egress requirement, the fire department inspector will not budge.
Can anyone identify an expert in the area of fire codes in effect in 1969-1970 and currently?
Thanks.
Richard A. Burt, Esq.
Richard A. Burt, Esq.
BURT & BURT
220 So. Ridgewood Avenue
Suite 200
Daytona Beach, Florida 32114
(386) 252-2090 (office)
(866) 240-7043 (facsimile)
dick@burt-burt.com<mailto:dick@burt-burt.com>
www.burt-burt.com<http://www.burt-burt.com/>
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Richard A. Burt
Thu, Mar 10, 2011 9:00 PM
Thanks, Kevin.
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Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 3:23 PM
To: RPPTL constructionlaw
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] Expert: Fire codes
We use Don Ford who is the building inspector for Neptune Beach. He is also on the First Coast Chapter of the International Code Council and Building Officials Association of Florida. He has testified for us on numerous code issues for apt complexes. He is honest and not that expensive. His phone number is 904.235.3649.
Kevin A. Schoeppel, Esquire
DURANT & SCHOEPPEL, P.A.
6550 St. Augustine Rd., Ste. 105
Jacksonville, FL 32217
Phone: (904) 652-2600
Fax: (904) 652-2610
Email: kschoeppel@ds-law.netmailto:kschoeppel@ds-law.net
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On Mar 10, 2011, at 11:25 AM, Richard A. Burt wrote:
Everyone,
I have a client who has owned an apartment building which has housed college students for over 20 years. Up to this year, the state conducted an annual inspection of the building and its units; each year the building and units passed inspection. Recently, the inspection function was transferred to the local fire department. The local fire inspector has cited the client for inadequate egress, stating that a door leading into a bedroom of a number of units must remain unlocked at all times. This would render these apartments non-rentable costing the client hundreds of thousands of dollars in income and drastically reducing the building's value. Despite pleas by the client and his architects and engineers, who have suggested a number of options to achieve the objective of the egress requirement, the fire department inspector will not budge.
Can anyone identify an expert in the area of fire codes in effect in 1969-1970 and currently?
Thanks.
Richard A. Burt, Esq.
Richard A. Burt, Esq.
BURT & BURT
220 So. Ridgewood Avenue
Suite 200
Daytona Beach, Florida 32114
(386) 252-2090 (office)
(866) 240-7043 (facsimile)
dick@burt-burt.commailto:dick@burt-burt.com
www.burt-burt.comhttp://www.burt-burt.com/
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Thanks, Kevin.
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Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 3:23 PM
To: RPPTL constructionlaw
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] Expert: Fire codes
We use Don Ford who is the building inspector for Neptune Beach. He is also on the First Coast Chapter of the International Code Council and Building Officials Association of Florida. He has testified for us on numerous code issues for apt complexes. He is honest and not that expensive. His phone number is 904.235.3649.
Kevin A. Schoeppel, Esquire
DURANT & SCHOEPPEL, P.A.
6550 St. Augustine Rd., Ste. 105
Jacksonville, FL 32217
Phone: (904) 652-2600
Fax: (904) 652-2610
Email: kschoeppel@ds-law.net<mailto:kschoeppel@ds-law.net>
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On Mar 10, 2011, at 11:25 AM, Richard A. Burt wrote:
Everyone,
I have a client who has owned an apartment building which has housed college students for over 20 years. Up to this year, the state conducted an annual inspection of the building and its units; each year the building and units passed inspection. Recently, the inspection function was transferred to the local fire department. The local fire inspector has cited the client for inadequate egress, stating that a door leading into a bedroom of a number of units must remain unlocked at all times. This would render these apartments non-rentable costing the client hundreds of thousands of dollars in income and drastically reducing the building's value. Despite pleas by the client and his architects and engineers, who have suggested a number of options to achieve the objective of the egress requirement, the fire department inspector will not budge.
Can anyone identify an expert in the area of fire codes in effect in 1969-1970 and currently?
Thanks.
Richard A. Burt, Esq.
Richard A. Burt, Esq.
BURT & BURT
220 So. Ridgewood Avenue
Suite 200
Daytona Beach, Florida 32114
(386) 252-2090 (office)
(866) 240-7043 (facsimile)
dick@burt-burt.com<mailto:dick@burt-burt.com>
www.burt-burt.com<http://www.burt-burt.com/>
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Richard A. Burt
Thu, Mar 10, 2011 9:01 PM
I agree. These codes are completely different animals.
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To: constructionlaw@lists.flabarrpptl.org
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I only know Mr. Ford by reputation, but most building code officials are NOT experts on the fire codes.
Frederick Dudley | Holland & Knight
Board Certified Construction Lawyer
315 South Calhoun Street, Suite 600 | Tallahassee FL 32301
Phone 850.425.5668 | Fax 850.224.8832 | Cell 850.294.3471
Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld
From: Kevin Schoeppel [mailto:kschoeppel@ds-law.net]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 03:22 PM
To: RPPTL constructionlaw constructionlaw@lists.flabarrpptl.org
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] Expert: Fire codes
We use Don Ford who is the building inspector for Neptune Beach. He is also on the First Coast Chapter of the International Code Council and Building Officials Association of Florida. He has testified for us on numerous code issues for apt complexes. He is honest and not that expensive. His phone number is 904.235.3649.
Kevin A. Schoeppel, Esquire
DURANT & SCHOEPPEL, P.A.
6550 St. Augustine Rd., Ste. 105
Jacksonville, FL 32217
Phone: (904) 652-2600
Fax: (904) 652-2610
Email: kschoeppel@ds-law.netmailto:kschoeppel@ds-law.net
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On Mar 10, 2011, at 11:25 AM, Richard A. Burt wrote:
Everyone,
I have a client who has owned an apartment building which has housed college students for over 20 years. Up to this year, the state conducted an annual inspection of the building and its units; each year the building and units passed inspection. Recently, the inspection function was transferred to the local fire department. The local fire inspector has cited the client for inadequate egress, stating that a door leading into a bedroom of a number of units must remain unlocked at all times. This would render these apartments non-rentable costing the client hundreds of thousands of dollars in income and drastically reducing the building’s value. Despite pleas by the client and his architects and engineers, who have suggested a number of options to achieve the objective of the egress requirement, the fire department inspector will not budge.
Can anyone identify an expert in the area of fire codes in effect in 1969-1970 and currently?
Thanks.
Richard A. Burt, Esq.
Richard A. Burt, Esq.
BURT & BURT
220 So. Ridgewood Avenue
Suite 200
Daytona Beach, Florida 32114
(386) 252-2090 (office)
(866) 240-7043 (facsimile)
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I agree. These codes are completely different animals.
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I only know Mr. Ford by reputation, but most building code officials are NOT experts on the fire codes.
Frederick Dudley | Holland & Knight
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From: Kevin Schoeppel [mailto:kschoeppel@ds-law.net]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 03:22 PM
To: RPPTL constructionlaw <constructionlaw@lists.flabarrpptl.org>
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] Expert: Fire codes
We use Don Ford who is the building inspector for Neptune Beach. He is also on the First Coast Chapter of the International Code Council and Building Officials Association of Florida. He has testified for us on numerous code issues for apt complexes. He is honest and not that expensive. His phone number is 904.235.3649.
Kevin A. Schoeppel, Esquire
DURANT & SCHOEPPEL, P.A.
6550 St. Augustine Rd., Ste. 105
Jacksonville, FL 32217
Phone: (904) 652-2600
Fax: (904) 652-2610
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On Mar 10, 2011, at 11:25 AM, Richard A. Burt wrote:
Everyone,
I have a client who has owned an apartment building which has housed college students for over 20 years. Up to this year, the state conducted an annual inspection of the building and its units; each year the building and units passed inspection. Recently, the inspection function was transferred to the local fire department. The local fire inspector has cited the client for inadequate egress, stating that a door leading into a bedroom of a number of units must remain unlocked at all times. This would render these apartments non-rentable costing the client hundreds of thousands of dollars in income and drastically reducing the building’s value. Despite pleas by the client and his architects and engineers, who have suggested a number of options to achieve the objective of the egress requirement, the fire department inspector will not budge.
Can anyone identify an expert in the area of fire codes in effect in 1969-1970 and currently?
Thanks.
Richard A. Burt, Esq.
Richard A. Burt, Esq.
BURT & BURT
220 So. Ridgewood Avenue
Suite 200
Daytona Beach, Florida 32114
(386) 252-2090 (office)
(866) 240-7043 (facsimile)
dick@burt-burt.com<mailto:dick@burt-burt.com>
www.burt-burt.com<http://www.burt-burt.com/>
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Brock, Herbert
Thu, Mar 10, 2011 9:15 PM
Fred I am going to keep this email
From: fred.dudley@hklaw.com [mailto:fred.dudley@hklaw.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 03:46 PM
To: constructionlaw@lists.flabarrpptl.org constructionlaw@lists.flabarrpptl.org
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] Expert: Fire codes
I only know Mr. Ford by reputation, but most building code officials are NOT experts on the fire codes.
Frederick Dudley | Holland & Knight
Board Certified Construction Lawyer
315 South Calhoun Street, Suite 600 | Tallahassee FL 32301
Phone 850.425.5668 | Fax 850.224.8832 | Cell 850.294.3471
Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld
From: Kevin Schoeppel [mailto:kschoeppel@ds-law.net]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 03:22 PM
To: RPPTL constructionlaw constructionlaw@lists.flabarrpptl.org
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] Expert: Fire codes
We use Don Ford who is the building inspector for Neptune Beach. He is also on the First Coast Chapter of the International Code Council and Building Officials Association of Florida. He has testified for us on numerous code issues for apt complexes. He is honest and not that expensive. His phone number is 904.235.3649.
Kevin A. Schoeppel, Esquire
DURANT & SCHOEPPEL, P.A.
6550 St. Augustine Rd., Ste. 105
Jacksonville, FL 32217
Phone: (904) 652-2600
Fax: (904) 652-2610
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On Mar 10, 2011, at 11:25 AM, Richard A. Burt wrote:
Everyone,
I have a client who has owned an apartment building which has housed college students for over 20 years. Up to this year, the state conducted an annual inspection of the building and its units; each year the building and units passed inspection. Recently, the inspection function was transferred to the local fire department. The local fire inspector has cited the client for inadequate egress, stating that a door leading into a bedroom of a number of units must remain unlocked at all times. This would render these apartments non-rentable costing the client hundreds of thousands of dollars in income and drastically reducing the building’s value. Despite pleas by the client and his architects and engineers, who have suggested a number of options to achieve the objective of the egress requirement, the fire department inspector will not budge.
Can anyone identify an expert in the area of fire codes in effect in 1969-1970 and currently?
Thanks.
Richard A. Burt, Esq.
Richard A. Burt, Esq.
BURT & BURT
220 So. Ridgewood Avenue
Suite 200
Daytona Beach, Florida 32114
(386) 252-2090 (office)
(866) 240-7043 (facsimile)
dick@burt-burt.com
www.burt-burt.com <http://www.burt-burt.com/>
Herbert O. Brock, Jr.
Attorney at Law
Board Certified Construction Lawyer
by the Florida Bar
Becker & Poliakoff, P.A.
Six Mile Corporate Park
12140 Carissa Commerce Court
Suite 200
Fort Myers, FL 33966
239.433.7707 Phone
239.433.5933 Fax
HBrock@becker-poliakoff.com
http://www.becker-poliakoff.com
Our clients' total satisfaction is our #1 priority. The Becker & Poliakoff Client CARE Center is available for questions, concerns and suggestions. Please contact us at 954.364.6090 or via email at CARE@becker-poliakoff.com.
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Fred I am going to keep this email
From: fred.dudley@hklaw.com [mailto:fred.dudley@hklaw.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 03:46 PM
To: constructionlaw@lists.flabarrpptl.org <constructionlaw@lists.flabarrpptl.org>
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] Expert: Fire codes
I only know Mr. Ford by reputation, but most building code officials are NOT experts on the fire codes.
Frederick Dudley | Holland & Knight
Board Certified Construction Lawyer
315 South Calhoun Street, Suite 600 | Tallahassee FL 32301
Phone 850.425.5668 | Fax 850.224.8832 | Cell 850.294.3471
fred.dudley@hklaw.com <mailto:fred.dudley@hklaw.com> | www.hklaw.com <http://www.hklaw.com/>
--------------------------
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From: Kevin Schoeppel [mailto:kschoeppel@ds-law.net]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 03:22 PM
To: RPPTL constructionlaw <constructionlaw@lists.flabarrpptl.org>
Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] Expert: Fire codes
We use Don Ford who is the building inspector for Neptune Beach. He is also on the First Coast Chapter of the International Code Council and Building Officials Association of Florida. He has testified for us on numerous code issues for apt complexes. He is honest and not that expensive. His phone number is 904.235.3649.
Kevin A. Schoeppel, Esquire
DURANT & SCHOEPPEL, P.A.
6550 St. Augustine Rd., Ste. 105
Jacksonville, FL 32217
Phone: (904) 652-2600
Fax: (904) 652-2610
Email: kschoeppel@ds-law.net
Website: www.ds-law.net <http://www.ds-law.net/>
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On Mar 10, 2011, at 11:25 AM, Richard A. Burt wrote:
Everyone,
I have a client who has owned an apartment building which has housed college students for over 20 years. Up to this year, the state conducted an annual inspection of the building and its units; each year the building and units passed inspection. Recently, the inspection function was transferred to the local fire department. The local fire inspector has cited the client for inadequate egress, stating that a door leading into a bedroom of a number of units must remain unlocked at all times. This would render these apartments non-rentable costing the client hundreds of thousands of dollars in income and drastically reducing the building’s value. Despite pleas by the client and his architects and engineers, who have suggested a number of options to achieve the objective of the egress requirement, the fire department inspector will not budge.
Can anyone identify an expert in the area of fire codes in effect in 1969-1970 and currently?
Thanks.
Richard A. Burt, Esq.
Richard A. Burt, Esq.
BURT & BURT
220 So. Ridgewood Avenue
Suite 200
Daytona Beach, Florida 32114
(386) 252-2090 (office)
(866) 240-7043 (facsimile)
dick@burt-burt.com
www.burt-burt.com <http://www.burt-burt.com/>
Herbert O. Brock, Jr.
Attorney at Law
Board Certified Construction Lawyer
by the Florida Bar
Becker & Poliakoff, P.A.
Six Mile Corporate Park
12140 Carissa Commerce Court
Suite 200
Fort Myers, FL 33966
239.433.7707 Phone
239.433.5933 Fax
HBrock@becker-poliakoff.com
http://www.becker-poliakoff.com
Our clients' total satisfaction is our #1 priority. The Becker & Poliakoff Client CARE Center is available for questions, concerns and suggestions. Please contact us at 954.364.6090 or via email at CARE@becker-poliakoff.com.
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